PvE players are not the problem, FD's decision to split the players apart is

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Lol @ research. These guys can hardly string together a coherent sentence. Research... hilarious. Im dying here man. :D



Deed is in the mail. Nice doing business with you.

Anothe runessassry comment will the mods please look into thsi, this guys has no impotant comments to make in reguards to the disscusion and is only here to discredit others comments and probly hasnt even played the game.
 
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Pretty sure I remember hearing in one of the interviews about Elite: Dangerous, that it was intended to be a game that discourages players killing eachother. I'm sorry if you didn't research the game before buying it.

It already does discourage players, that has no relation to why people want solo play to be removed and is another piece of evidence that there are no influx of these "imaginary griefers".
 
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Youre right, I do kind of feel like Im a loaded Python shooting at unarmed haulers, and I feel kind of bad about it. Not sure how people can have prolonged fun fighting unarmed opponents.

This entire thread is unnecessary. Lets stop doing it and all just play the game the way we want, or move on.
 
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I play in open, but in a private group (Mobius) because I don't want to deal with PvP unless I have a bounty on me. On the rare occasion I have encountered a CMMDR, we've exchanged greetings and info on where to visit and that's how I want to play.

Maybe I have a different definition of interaction than "I'm going to kill you if you don't play with me and I'm playing your going to get a kicking and die, cos I can".

If that is your game style, set up a private group for PvP and have fun.
 
Anothe runessassry comment will the mods please look into thsi, this guys has no impotant comments to make in reguards to the disscusion and is only here to discredit others comments and probly hasnt even played the game.

If you think that's the case, then use the report button. Posting MODS PLS SAVE ME in the thread isn't much use.
 
Anothe runessassry comment will the mods please look into thsi, this guys has no impotant comments to make in reguards to the disscusion and is only here to discredit others comments and probly hasnt even played the game.


Report this guy, he forms no coherent discussion and just insults any post he replies to.
 
That's simply the way ED is, you could potentially get interdicted by an Elite NPC Anaconda on your first SC jump if the gods of RNG are angry at you.
The concept of "starter areas" and level appropriate content simply does not exist. As my sig says, it's simply the way the game is.

Why doesn't it exist though? In Frontier and First Encounters, Sol, Achernar and the neighbouring star systems were safe while the outer systems were swarmed with pirates. So what I am asking is entirely in the spirit of the predecessors. Safe "Starter areas" (Sol, Barnard's Star, Achernar, Facece) were present in the previous games!

And also about the point with the "there are 400 billion star systems, you wouldn't see other players anyway". Well, this argument goes both ways, doesn't it? If all these starsystems separate the players anway, why the need for the additonal seperation due the various game modes? My guess is that most players are actually hanging around the more populated systems, but can't see each other due the various game modes.

The OP has been heavily edited since it originally went up. It was very much about the ability for Solo players to cut themselves off from the online players originally. The OP blames it on Frontiers attempts to segregate the players, but in reality it is the players that have decided to segregate themselves. The Open mode is there for all of the people that want it, there just aren't enough of you to populate the space properly.

No, it was not heavily edited. I originally used the word "carebear", the moderator replaced it with "inexperienced". The rest is untouched.

The OP blames it on Frontiers attempts to segregate the players, but in reality it is the players that have decided to segregate themselves

Well yes... that's still Frontier's fault though. If Activision would allow an unlimited ammo cheat in COD online, then most people would use it too. I don't want them to remove solo mode, but, there's far more than solo mode here: We have seamless switching between solo and multi, AND ban lists and blocking AND private groups AND heavy instancing. COME ON! That's way over the top to segregate the players. Giving ALL this option to hides is a bit much and too easy. Like I said, it's like stuffing up a children with chocolate (god mode for traders) instead of taking care of its problems (safe areas, heavy policing of those). This game works more like a "map" in Warcraft 3 and Starcraft than an open universe. A shame, really.

Its going to die, DIE I TELL YOU! Now Im going to sing the doom song! Doomy doomy doom doom!

Frontier and Elite have been around for 30 years, its not going anywhere, its in no danger of dying. Have no fear.

No, this game is actually not around for 30 years. Elite is 30 years old, but the last game of this series was released almost 20 years ago! This is actually not an established franchise in the vein Tomb Raider and Call of Duty is with games every 2-3 years. And look at all complaints here about this game being "boring". The sterile universe due all the segregation is a huge reason for that. FD can't sit on its laurels just because the first game was released 30 years ago. ED should be actually an experimental project, but unfortunately the developers are on a heavy nostalgia trip and limit themselves to the 1984 game (the ELITE sequels were far more daring than ED!) This is not quite what I have expected.

To people who want to haul cargo all day risk free, what exactly does this game offer that truck simulator doesnt?
Space, spaceships, planets, stars, black holes, hyperspace, pirates, bounty hunters, factions, civil wars, I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Can't you see the possibility how funnier all this could get if the waring factions, pirates, bounty hunters .. could be partly human? That's what I am talking about. An open universe doesn't mean automatically "griefing". And against "griefing", safe areas with heavy policing would be far better and far more organically in-game than all this extreme separation.
 
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I think I would find it more "funnier" to poke forks into my eyes than to share a game space with the majority of the people that I find arguing for FD to close down Solo and Private Groups.
 
If the PVP crowd want more people in their little worlds so they can shoot them..they are going to have to shrink the game by a factor of a million....i`m in open...i`m also somewhere in the region of 1400LY from SOL and heading further out...you wanna shoot me feel free i`ll be somewhere in a sphere 2800LY in diameter and that diameter is expanding daily...good luck you are going to need it.
 
Anyone buying that first post interested in buying a bridge? I have a wide selection at a very reasonable price, and Im being totaly seriouse here.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dabba again.
 
I think I would find it more "funnier" to poke forks into my eyes than to share a game space with the majority of the people that I find arguing for FD to close down Solo and Private Groups.
To be fair, there seems to be only four or five of them.
What I don't understand is why on earth they are so angrily adamant about removing two out of three player options, instead of just being happy with having the choice of PvP themselves.
Odd.
 
because i most people cant play thier way due to lack of player interactions and the game is suppose to be play yor way, btw this thread is in the top 5 for comments
 
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Cant' you see the possibility how funnier all this could get if the waring factions, pirates, bounty hunters .. could be partly human? That's what I am talking about.
That's what I really, really hope it'll all eventually turn out to be. Even most of the people sticking to the safe areas may get curious about what's out there, or start thinking that there could be some nice rewards if they take the risk - adds a bit of tension, drama, and excitement. Do it right and I think you'll hook those people in. Calling them carebears or wusse or whatever won't though. The attitudes from quite a few players (not directing this at you) sound more like a couple of drunks looking for a punch-up with each other, something most people would rather avoid, and surely to the despair of the would-be pirates and bounty hunters and seekers of fortune and glory just waiting for a rich PvP universe.

Right now actually seeing anyone else is the biggest problem.
 
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because i most people cant play thier way due to lack of player interactions and the game is suppose to be play yor way, btw this thread is in the top 5 for comments

If most people wanted to play your way, you wouldn't be having these issues. Personally Im having tons of interesting and fun player interactions in my private group.
 

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With a heavy heart, but no surprise, it's time to euthanise this thread.

Solo and Open cannot, it would seem, be debated civilly. So it ends.
 
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