I don't think "common knowledge" means what you think it means...
PvP (Open) commanders not welcome on this forum?...
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I don't think "common knowledge" means what you think it means...
Yup. Said recently that the community here is unique in so vehemently disdaining high skill players or those into PvP.
Never though I'd need to tell a playerbase so considerably constructed of veterans from over three decades ago to grow up, but hey. And I did laugh when a mod tried to tell me "there are mods biased towards PvE AND PvP".
Never though I'd need to tell a playerbase so considerably constructed of veterans from over three decades ago to grow up, but hey. And I did laugh when a mod tried to tell me "there are mods biased towards PvE AND PvP".
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Maybe its language thing. I was taught a common knowledge is a something known to everyone.
I mean Runis proposed how game should be designed, and i wrote he have right, and its well known (rather should be) to everyone who is game or IT system designer.
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the problem lies with the moderators employed on the forums far to strict and harsh and frankly the anti pvp player base bunch of babies that they areI know we have heated debates, but recent events sadden me.
I recently visited a PvP discord. I learned that they were hosting a PvP event. I asked why they weren't posting it here on the official forum, and the reply was:
"Forums aren't the place for pvp. Posters only cry about it, mods don't like it. Everyone who would be interested is on reddit or on the discord servers we posted to."
The one I spoke with didn't care to elaborate, so I'll just leave the comment here. But I'm genuinely surprised that the official forum isn't considered the goto platform for all who play Elite: Dangerous.
Maybe I'm just unaware of the importance of reddit and discord. Or that this forum was considered toxic by PvPers. I asked if it would be frowned upon if I shared the event here, and got no reply. Consent through silence I guess. So here's a link. It sounds like fun:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/5orehu/event_small_ship_pvp_event_this_saturday/
See you in the black commanders.
(talk about a divided community...
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So, to summarise,
Some PVP posters in this thread:
"You carebears, who are in a 'crap' subsection with IQ problems misunderstand us and are nasty to us on this forums".
Sorry to break it to you guys but either 'git gud' at these boards or run off and hide on Reddit....... I'm sure I've heard something similar somewhere before......
Some PVP posters in this thread:
"You carebears, who are in a 'crap' subsection with IQ problems misunderstand us and are nasty to us on this forums".
Sorry to break it to you guys but either 'git gud' at these boards or run off and hide on Reddit....... I'm sure I've heard something similar somewhere before......
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i'm a PVE player, does that make me part of the 'crap' tier of players ?
You tell me!
What is the difference between PvP and PvE player?
99% of my time i am collecting materials, rolling stuff, makin money. As far i know its impossible by direct PvP interaction.
And honestly, its a hard to play only PvE here, because CG/PP/BGS activity may be PvP.
PvP may vary of tool what you are using. It may be a laser and it may be hauling a fish.
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I know we have heated debates, but recent events sadden me.
I recently visited a PvP discord. I learned that they were hosting a PvP event. I asked why they weren't posting it here on the official forum, and the reply was:
"Forums aren't the place for pvp. Posters only cry about it, mods don't like it. Everyone who would be interested is on reddit or on the discord servers we posted to."
The one I spoke with didn't care to elaborate, so I'll just leave the comment here. But I'm genuinely surprised that the official forum isn't considered the goto platform for all who play Elite: Dangerous.
Maybe I'm just unaware of the importance of reddit and discord. Or that this forum was considered toxic by PvPers. I asked if it would be frowned upon if I shared the event here, and got no reply. Consent through silence I guess. So here's a link. It sounds like fun:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/5orehu/event_small_ship_pvp_event_this_saturday/
See you in the black commanders.
(talk about a divided community...
I guess it comes down to your definition of PvP?
I suspect most players in OPEN couldn't care less about if other CMDRs want to PvP or not. I suspect it's only a concern to them when PvP sadly becomes an excuse just to interdict and destroy anyone/everyone, unfortunately because:-
1) The game offers next to no other options for PvP gameplay.
2) It does next to nothing to penalise such (in game) pointless behaviour.
I suspect when CMDRs feel they are being interdicted and destroyed, without even the attacking CMDR caring about in game reason enough to even bother scan then, it seems so cynical that it's just frustrating.
The main problem in the game is that it in truth it doesn't really orchestrate/offer PvP. Log in to ED now and go and fight someone... How will you do it? Sign up to a mission/task with some friends to go and attack/defend something, knowing a wing of other CMDRs will being fighting against you? No... You can't do that! Almost the only avenues open to you are to, (a) liaise with friends to organise a "friendly fight" for no ingame reason/outcome, (b) interdict/destroy other CMDRs who most likely aren't interested/equipped for a fight, for no ingame reason/outcome.
So the main problem IMHO is PvP all too often is just confused with mindless/pointless interdiction and destruction of CMDRs not interested/outfitted in PvP (at the time). And the frustrating thing is that the game doesn't offer any real alternatives to this and/or doesn't really penalise it.
Depends, do you want to go AFK at a CZ farming credits in a turreted shield tank?
Is this sarcasm? I can't tell (it sort of feels too cheap to be anything BUT sarcasm). But if not then this is another, perfect example of why people might take a dislike towards PvPers if they present the same mentality as the above...
My own POV is that I have absolutely nothing against PvP players, providing that I don't have to have anything to do with them. PvP is not the game I'm playing.
If I want to play 'Unreal Tournament: Spaceship Edition' then I will. I choose not to.
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You almost got the point.
No, that's just your very subjective opinion. It has nothing to do with being a game or "IT system designer" (which is, BTW, just laughable).
Well said. +1 to you.
well, i didn't know there was a 'crap' tier of players, seems you know more than me about it.
Yes it is. Talk to any system architect or game architect and he will laugh when he will hear about Open/Group/Solo, PvP/PvE implementation and player interaction in Elite.
About it, yes, but i know nothing about you. I need to know something about these two things to place my opinion. i am not judging people here. I am writting for what tier of players FDev is dedicating a game from my point of view. Take to consider i am also playing that game.
Maybe this will help You.
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Most of those "veterans" are unable to quickly adapt or have a dynamic thinking. They like safety and they like to hoard.
I proposed a while ago a more dynamic approach to engineer mods and all i got was only hate. I'm surprised i didn't get any death threats. This is the community here, and PvPers won't come in an environment like this to argue with the walls.
people are still doing this ?
Nope. Now since you can't prove your point, it may be time to accept that it's just your very subjective opinion.
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If they hadnt given the money to the charity in question, and had used it for their own ends it would have been 'fake'.
It was a charity event. People donated to it. That money was given to the relevant charity.
So because a player has no interest in PVP per say, or getting good, or even dying whilst trying, they are classed as 'crap'.
Yeap when I read things like that I see why this forum has such a large gulf between its player bases.
Personally I dont care if im crap at pvp its something I have no interest in ED. Other games sure but I dont see myself as being in a tier of crap with other players of the same mind set.
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