Python or Alliance Chieftain?

[Foreskin Paladin]

Hey guys, I recently started playing again after like 18 months, and I see there's a lot of new content. I am in the "mid-game" I suppose, I have a fully A-rated, somewhat engineered Vulture. I think I am ready to move on to the next ship, I have about 60 million credits to blow. Some of my friends are recommending the Python, others are telling me the new Alliance Chieftain is good.

What would you guys recommend? (If you have a loadout to share, please feel free)

For the record, I am mainly interested in PvE combat, RES sites and Conflict Zones.

 

[lecorsobreton]

Hey guys, I recently started playing again after like 18 months, and I see there's a lot of new content. I am in the "mid-game" I suppose, I have a fully A-rated, somewhat engineered Vulture. I think I am ready to move on to the next ship, I have about 60 million credits to blow. Some of my friends are recommending the Python, others are telling me the new Alliance Chieftain is good.

What would you guys recommend? (If you have a loadout to share, please feel free)

For the record, I am mainly interested in PvE combat, RES sites and Conflict Zones.

I'd go for the chieftain if your main interest is combat. It's cheaper too.

 

[C64Fan]

You need to have more money before you buy any of them. When they are properly equipped you won’t have enough money for the rebuy, and don’t ever fly without having 2 to 3 times the rebuy. When that’s sorted you should go for the Python. It’s the multi-role king in the game and can earn you a lot of money. Have fun, m8 [yesnod].

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

If you are moving up combat wise, you can't go wrong with the Chieftain.
If you want to try out other gameplay, like mining, trading, Passenger hauling, then the Python is a good bet.

I do think you need more credits first, though.

But for just fighting, you could do a cheap side grade and try out a ICourier. It's low cost, and fits 3 Class 2's. It's one of the most interesting small ships to engineer and try out builds. It has staggeringly strong shields, very very fast, and is a deadly little fighter.

I had a lot of fun with a rail guns DBS too. Also inexpensive, maneuverable, and tough, it will chew up and spit out much bigger ships easily.

 

[777Driver]

Hey guys, I recently started playing again after like 18 months, and I see there's a lot of new content. I am in the "mid-game" I suppose, I have a fully A-rated, somewhat engineered Vulture. I think I am ready to move on to the next ship, I have about 60 million credits to blow. Some of my friends are recommending the Python, others are telling me the new Alliance Chieftain is good.

What would you guys recommend? (If you have a loadout to share, please feel free)

For the record, I am mainly interested in PvE combat, RES sites and Conflict Zones.

I'd say Chieftain if you are going pure combat, much more fun. Python if you want an all rounder.

You definitely don't have enough for a Python, barely enough for a half decent Chieftain build, my A-rated smuggling/assignation Chieftain costs 75,169,373 Cr

Now the Chieftain is more fun, but if I was forced to choose it would be the Python.

 

[Drumatiko]

I fly a chieftain with 3 small beam lasers (efficient, with the mod that dumps heat on the enemy so my heat drops to 0% at times), 1 medium MC and 2 large MC's. Got 2 hull reinforcement packs, and 2 module reinforcement packs.

Works like a charm in PVE, and it flies like a beast (I keep coming back for it).

 

[Captain Thea Kreutzer]

Hey guys, I recently started playing again after like 18 months, and I see there's a lot of new content. I am in the "mid-game" I suppose, I have a fully A-rated, somewhat engineered Vulture. I think I am ready to move on to the next ship, I have about 60 million credits to blow. Some of my friends are recommending the Python, others are telling me the new Alliance Chieftain is good.

What would you guys recommend? (If you have a loadout to share, please feel free)

For the record, I am mainly interested in PvE combat, RES sites and Conflict Zones.

Chieftain first then Python. Chieftan is about half the cost of a Python

 

[Starender]

if you want to make credits fast, then go Python, it's an "armed trader", and an OP one, its the ultimate ship of Elite but don't expect to dodge anything in it or to position yourself in combat, it will be front fighting and the stronger will win which is often the Python anyway. One last thing, don't use this ship in PvP

if you want to be strong in fights and have a high skill potential, then go chieftain which is a "heavy long range fighter", you can build it to jump at 25 ly and be very strong and still be agile, or go the lightweight way and be able to jump at 30+ Ly to go anywhere on the universe and be combat ready, everything you need for combat is there and jump range/cockpit view as a bonus, but you don't have much else so don't expect to be All around as easily as with a Python, but still the Chieftain is a PvP ship just like an Fed assault or a Fer de Lance.


in short -> Living the good life doing anything you want while still being strong is Python
Living the intense life of a heavy Fighter who can dodge/chase/escape while still be able to travel/have a nice view is Chieftain

 

[nosleepdemon]

Chieftain. The Python is over rated and is only a stepping stone for larger craft. The Chieftain on the other hand is quite amazing for combat, with its excellent hardpoint configuration. There is no reason why you couldn't leap frog the Python entirely by flying the Chieftain in combat CGs for one of the larger craft, if you even want to go in that direction. Be aware though that due to its weak shields, the Chieftain requires a hefty initial investment for a higher grade hull plus hull reinforcements.

 

[Hooplah]

For combat I would expect 90 million credits for the Chieftain and at least 160 million for the Python. Here's my Chieftain build for Hi CZs. It runs cool so I don't need heat sinks when launching an SCB if I'm careful. It is so very fast and maneuverable I don't need expensive hull armour. Also combat speed and maneuverability is essential so I would max out the thrusters in a Python before going into harm's way. It can be a large slow attractive target in a Hi CZ.

Note we don't need no stinkin' cargo hold for Hi CZs!

That is a few of your possibilities. Getting there to accomplish this is for another thread and there are many. Google helps.

 

[C64Fan]

Guys, when he only has 60 million he needs a ship that can earn him a lot of money, and the Python is perfect for that. The Chieftain doesn’t even come close. The Chieftain is a nice combat ship, and I love mine - but the Python can do anything.

But please don’t buy it before you have at least the double of that. Don’t be this guy: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...tupid-Stupid?p=6587793&viewfull=1#post6587793 . He learned it the hard way. Let’s hope it won’t take him too long to earn the money again.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

If you only have 60 million, the Python is the last ship you should consider. I am a great fan of the Python, but the stock one is a sitting duck. The forum is littered with rage threads by players who bought a Python too soon.

 

[GG7]

You really need both to be honest. They are such totally different ships, you really can't compare one to the other.

That said... The Python can cover far more bases in the game than the Chieftain can. If you can only afford one or the other, and combat is not your primary focus, I would opt for the Python first.

Just doing the Outpost to Outpost Boom Delivery Missions that ONLY the Python can actually do, will buy you a Chieftain and pay for your Python purchase in short order. (6 to 9 Million CR for a one jump A to B delivery)

The Chieftain does not have enough cargo capacity to accept those missions. (120-180T Cargo Capacity Required)

 

[C64Fan]

If you only have 60 million, the Python is the last ship you should consider. I am a great fan of the Python, but the stock one is a sitting duck. The forum is littered with rage threads by players who bought a Python too soon.

That’s why he needs to earn more money before he buy it.

He says he’s mid-game, but he doesn’t have a Python yet. That tells me that he is in a bit of a standstill. He needs a ship that can get him going in the game, and THAT has Python written all over it. If he buys the Chieftain now it will only take him longer. That’s the way I see it.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[m0rl0ck]

The python is hands down the better choice all around. I flew a chieftan for a bit, a rated everything reinforcements, military hull etc. two canopy blow outs in about as many hours. Imo there is no catagory where the chieftan can hold a candle to the python (i may be biased tho its my favorite ship in the game).

My advice tho is dont buy it till you have enough money to a rate everything and at least 3 rebuys in the bank after.

I just checked inara and the current value of my python is 199,089,387 Cr so plan on spending at least 100 million cr right away in outfitting.

 

[Ddraig]

How is this a logical comparison?

 

[GG7]

Chieftain. The Python is over rated and is only a stepping stone for larger craft.

Says who?

I own ALL the big ships and I still use my Python all the time.

 

[KevinMillican]

The Python can easily earn its upgrade quickly as there are cargo missions to outposts that only it can do.
Needs upgrading a lot and some engineering before it can hold its own in combat however.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

I'd say Chieftain if you are going pure combat, much more fun. Python if you want an all rounder.

You definitely don't have enough for a Python, barely enough for a half decent Chieftain build, my A-rated smuggling/assignation Chieftain costs 75,169,373 Cr

Now the Chieftain is more fun, but if I was forced to choose it would be the Python.

Your Chieftain has a secret lover???

 

[Krash]

Says who?

I own ALL the big ships and I still use my Python all the time.

I came here to say this. Also bought the Chieftan and plan to keep that as well.