Which Scorpio and Windows 10 is now helping to remedy... but they did create the problem initially. That said, Scorpio is nothing but a "mini-PC" to begin with- albeit with a proprietary ROM hardware interface to prevent people from flashing them and using for whatever they want to. The more consoles "upgrade" themselves, they're just eventually moving closer to what PC's are already capable of.
Question - Is pc version being curtailed because of console versions?
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Which Scorpio and Windows 10 is now helping to remedy... but they did create the problem initially. That said, Scorpio is nothing but a "mini-PC" to begin with- albeit with a proprietary ROM hardware interface to prevent people from flashing them and using for whatever they want to. The more consoles "upgrade" themselves, they're just eventually moving closer to what PC's are already capable of.
I know that thread but you are still wrong about the official response.
Because until Microsoft announce their new console and their new product (which is always kept very secret during development) The game developers do not know when a new platform is coming and what its specifications will be... so until they have this information they are forced to work with what they have for years to come, no new technology that they know will not fit on the current platform... and in that time will keep trying to squeeze what they can into a finite space with limited results.
A PC keeps evolving... The cieling is high and it keeps moving.
The developers can develop new technolgy and push the envolope, PC players can upgrade and tweek settings as the treadmill of fidelity soldiers on.
I still don't understand what you are trying to tell me and that's coming from someone who plays computer games for the last 25 years.
This thread is heading in two different directions. The OP postulated that consoles are holding back the graphics.
This is a rumour that’s been around since the Xbox release was announced and many people put up graphics “evidence” of the fact.
Yet a lot of those changes were as people mentioned no related to the Xbox or even predate it significantly. Anyone who thinks that FDeV would purposefully literally redraw a whole wedge of graphics when LODs exist to mitigate load issues and have existed for years is probably mistaken.
The xbox is not weaker than the weakest PC that can run elite dangerous.
Here is ED running on a GPD Win (quad core Atom, Intel HD graphics) for heaven’s sake. I have run it on my GPD Pocket.
[video=youtube_share;cbJ738KmJLY]https://youtu.be/cbJ738KmJLY[/video]
Cobra is an incredibly efficient engine and is 8K ready.
So let’s stop talking min. specs.
However, minimum specs are not, I think, what the OP means. He’s probably talking about the fact that on a modern PC you can max them game out and still have room at the top, that the graphics etc. are not complex enough to be befitting of a 2018 AAA game. This is still open for debate.
The other branch as fishy pointed out above is that multiple platforms slow down development, with the proviso that extra money is made due to that.
However IMO, this extra money is likely being invested in games other than ED, such as ‘Coaster and JW. Which still Means ( in my opinion) that testing a game on multiple platforms will without dowbt slow down its development. But again, this has nothing to do with purposefully regarding the graphics.
This is a rumour that’s been around since the Xbox release was announced and many people put up graphics “evidence” of the fact.
Yet a lot of those changes were as people mentioned no related to the Xbox or even predate it significantly. Anyone who thinks that FDeV would purposefully literally redraw a whole wedge of graphics when LODs exist to mitigate load issues and have existed for years is probably mistaken.
The xbox is not weaker than the weakest PC that can run elite dangerous.
Here is ED running on a GPD Win (quad core Atom, Intel HD graphics) for heaven’s sake. I have run it on my GPD Pocket.
[video=youtube_share;cbJ738KmJLY]https://youtu.be/cbJ738KmJLY[/video]
Cobra is an incredibly efficient engine and is 8K ready.
So let’s stop talking min. specs.
However, minimum specs are not, I think, what the OP means. He’s probably talking about the fact that on a modern PC you can max them game out and still have room at the top, that the graphics etc. are not complex enough to be befitting of a 2018 AAA game. This is still open for debate.
The other branch as fishy pointed out above is that multiple platforms slow down development, with the proviso that extra money is made due to that.
However IMO, this extra money is likely being invested in games other than ED, such as ‘Coaster and JW. Which still Means ( in my opinion) that testing a game on multiple platforms will without dowbt slow down its development. But again, this has nothing to do with purposefully regarding the graphics.
Your post doesn't make any sense.
Well The Xbox users got short changed on this generation IMHO. Cheaper to buy a PC now.
But The XBOX ONE X runs ED at 4k at roughly 30 fps to 60fps. it needs two detail settings to claw back FSP depending on the players sentiments.
Depending on how long the XBOX ONE X lasts (life span) is this performance going to keep up with PC for very long and if not... are we then looking at the XBOX and PS4 Pro as a development water mark going forward and ultimately holding back game evolution.
yes it does.
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Short changed? I fail to see how. I have both. I prefer console. KBM support is on the horizon. I couldn't build a comparable PC to my X for the same cost.
I'm looking forward to it
What makes you believe that this is happening?
Again, they could just stop supporting Xbox in a few years like they already did with Win 32 and Mac. Nothing stops them. Your argument is invalid.
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Cheaper to buy a PC? Are you familiar with what Bitcoin is doing to the hardware market?
PC is many things, but "right now" as you say? No, cheaper isn't one of them.
Because people got the Xbox One, expecting it to be around for a while (like last gen) and already Microsoft have released a new and better console, Sony did the same.
MS and Sony only did this because they are basically at war with one another for the gaming market crown.
Consoles have always had the edge on PC because of price point. But if you want to latest and best console and you already paid out for the Xbox One, you now have to shell out another wedge of cash for the Pro versions.
Not everyone can afford both consoles.
hahah this is true.
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And let me guess, those people "shouldn't" be playing ED, am I right?
Got news for you dude: Not your call to make.
And if you have top-end hardware, that does not mean developers owe you their focus so that only you can afford to run the game.
Get over it. Money does not actually get you everything.
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A Ferrari's value is entirely and purely perceived. In practical terms, it is worthless, as all it can do is burn fuel whilst contributing nothing new to an economy. (bar perhaps the rental market)
Nobody, and I mean nobody, perceives video games with that level of value.
Apples to oranges. Man you missed that mark by a MILE.
The Rolex still tells time.
The Ferrari still drives.
People pay for the luxury of it. Not what it does.
Would you buy Elite dangerous if it cost 10,000$ and did a few things similar games couldn't?
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Without knowing what comes next. Fdev cannot build the game to be future proof for the next console interation. So game development would be locked within the scope of the current console generation.
Elite dangerous has 7 years left in it (at least). thats 7 years of game life and development where ED is forced to fit and work at optimum on current generation console hardware.
If we assume for arguments sake that the Xbox One X lasts for 7 years. Then ED development will have to be limited to keep working on that hardware for 7 years, while PC hardware may double or tripple in performance during that time.
If FDev suddenly dropped support and updates for ED on Xbox say in 5 years so they where free to push beyond the constraints forced upon it by the Xbox, im sure alot of invested XBox players will not be happy.