Questions for experienced Salvagers.

Adel

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BL1P said:
Legal Salvage I am looking for at the moment :-

AI Relics
Ancient Artefact
Antimatter Containment Unit
Antique Jewellery
Data Core
Diplomatic Bag
Fossil Remnants
Gene Bank
Prohibited Research Materials
Rare Artwork
Rebel Transmissions
SAP 8 Core Container
Space Pioneer Relics
Technical Blueprints
Time Capsule (posibly at algol double icon uss, but not found yet)
Trade Data
Trinkets of Hidden Fortune

I would love to know if ALL of these exist in the game as Legal Salvage before I spend 100s of hours more looking for them.
They are listed on the FC as Legal Salvage but not sure they haven't fallen victim to a bug or update over the years that has removed them.
For example AI Relics used to appear in the old "Strong USS" type as a bait pirates would place. This system was removed in favour of a new system of USSs.
Though we do not know if AI Relics where added anywhere else to the loot tables.

Anyway as always any info would be welcome.
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Most of them have been found (check previous posts).
For the moment, forget data core (they are in military installations, broken since AT LEAST january 2020).
Fossile remnants, Gene banks, Space Pioneer relics, time capsules are the ones currently unfoundable. Algol just have Earth relics in the permanent USS.
For rare artwork, i think it can be found with diplomatic bags in hostage rescue missions (the ones with a ship icon and a cross on it, needing hatch breaker limpets).
2 items we all seem to forget are small survey data cache and large survey data cache.
Anyway, if you find anything pls share it with us ;) .
 

BL1P

BL1P
Adel said:
Most of them have been found (check previous posts).
For the moment, forget data core (they are in military installations, broken since AT LEAST january 2020).
Fossile remnants, Gene banks, Space Pioneer relics, time capsules are the ones currently unfoundable. Algol just have Earth relics in the permanent USS.
For rare artwork, i think it can be found with diplomatic bags in hostage rescue missions (the ones with a ship icon and a cross on it, needing hatch breaker limpets).
2 items we all seem to forget are small survey data cache and large survey data cache.
Anyway, if you find anything pls share it with us ;) .
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Did you notice that I said LEGAL ? :p
By that I mean cannot have the TAG Stolen on it.
 
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goemon

goemon
BL1P said:
Did you notice that I said LEGAL ? :p
By that I mean cannot have the TAG Stolen on it.
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if you have an active mission to get them, they (e.g. diplomatic bags) are not marked as stolen.

as you can go for the same target more than once, you can pick more than you need for your mission up.
 

Adel

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BL1P said:
Did you notice that I said LEGAL ? :p
By that I mean cannot have the TAG Stolen on it.
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I did :p .
But like @GroG79 said, some of them are only STOLEN (AI relics, SAP 8 Core container, etc).
There is no way to delete the stolen tag, even by selling it to your own fleet carrier 😩 .
If you don't want those stupid cops to scan you, just put your carrier in an anarchy system.
I don't like to see the stolen tag too but for the moment there is no alternative, sry.
 

BL1P

BL1P
goemon said:
if you have an active mission to get them, they (e.g. diplomatic bags) are not marked as stolen.

as you can go for the same target more than once, you can pick more than you need for your mission up.
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I tried this the other day, If you collect more than your allowed they are removed once mission is completed.
And you cannot transfer to carrier first as it wont let you.

I must be missing some trick could you explain it for me ?
 

BL1P

BL1P
Adel said:
I did :p .
But like @GroG79 said, some of them are only STOLEN (AI relics, SAP 8 Core container, etc).
There is no way to delete the stolen tag, even by selling it to your own fleet carrier 😩 .
If you don't want those stupid cops to scan you, just put your carrier in an anarchy system.
I don't like to see the stolen tag too but for the moment there is no alternative, sry.
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Nothing to do with the cops :)
Its because the Fleet carrier allows two types of Salvage - Stolen and Legal.
If the Legal stuff isn't possible should we not inform Fdev there is a bug in that you should not have listing for Legal Items if they do no exist ?
For example the Prisoners and Hostages are not in the Legal Salvage list on the Fleet carrier but AI Relics are.
Which would seem to suggest that they do exist as Legal but Hostages dont.
 

goemon

goemon
BL1P said:
I tried this the other day, If you collect more than your allowed they are removed once mission is completed.
And you cannot transfer to carrier first as it wont let you.

I must be missing some trick could you explain it for me ?
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uh, that's interesting. i remember having the same with black boxes.

no idea how i managed, but I'd try:
- taking more than 1 mission
or
- dropping them without abandoning in front of the station and picking them up after mission hand in

it might be i got those which i got as parallel loot/spawn?
 

BL1P

BL1P
goemon said:
uh, that's interesting. i remember having the same with black boxes.

no idea how i managed, but I'd try:
- taking more than 1 mission
or
- dropping them without abandoning in front of the station and picking them up after mission hand in

it might be i got those which i got as parallel loot/spawn?
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I will try a few different ways and let you know how I get on m8.
Thanks.

On a side note does that mean you have Legal AI relics on your FC ? Just wondering.
 

goemon

goemon
BL1P said:
I will try a few different ways and let you know how I get on m8.
Thanks.

On a side note does that mean you have Legal AI relics on your FC ? Just wondering.
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no, only legal Diplomatic Bag, Prohibited Research Materials, Rebel Transmissions, Technical Blueprints, Trade Data.


AI Relics, Antimatter Containment Unit, Antique Jewellery, Rare Artwork, SAP 8 Core Container, Trinkets of Hidden Fortune i have only in stolen.

Ancient Artefact, Data Core, Fossil Remnants, Gene Bank, Space Pioneer Relics, Time Capsule i haven't found at all.

as for AI relicts - as there are still (very rare) USS degraded emissions threat 4+ ingame, i wouldn't put it out of possibility they are still "legal" ways to get them. but i have only seen 1 USS 4+ since i started collecting (FC update).

for my usecase (science samples) i don't care much about the stolen flag.
 

BL1P

BL1P
goemon said:
no, only legal Diplomatic Bag, Prohibited Research Materials, Rebel Transmissions, Technical Blueprints, Trade Data.


AI Relics, Antimatter Containment Unit, Antique Jewellery, Rare Artwork, SAP 8 Core Container, Trinkets of Hidden Fortune i have only in stolen.

Ancient Artefact, Data Core, Fossil Remnants, Gene Bank, Space Pioneer Relics, Time Capsule i haven't found at all.

as for AI relicts - as there are still (very rare) USS degraded emissions threat 4+ ingame, i wouldn't put it out of possibility they are still "legal" ways to get them. but i have only seen 1 USS 4+ since i started collecting (FC update).

for my usecase (science samples) i don't care much about the stolen flag.
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With the USS t4 same for me only seen one and it had a meta alloy in it.
 

BL1P

BL1P
Just did the collect 4 rare art work mission. Collected 3 then collected 4.
Dropped the extra three outside station. Picked them up after handing in mission.

They keep the mission tag and gain a stolen tag.

So that way doesn't work anymore, or I am still doing something wrong ?
Will try using abandon rather than jettison next, to see if its the same result.
 

BL1P

BL1P
Ok so did the rare artwork mission again. This time I abandoned the extra 3.

Same results... Tagged as Mission and Stolen.
Which means you cannot transfer them to the FC. Because of the mission tag.
 

BL1P

BL1P
Strangepork said:
Have you tried "transfer all"
Last time i did the mission goods transferred over, though I didn't go through with the transfer in case the items got stuck.
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It doesn't matter really if they did transfer, they will still be tagged Stolen and I want Legal.
Though its a good idea m8 and I will test it anyway.
 

GroG79

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Not really salvage but nowhere for sale, found on the 6A planet in LTT 1935

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