To be able to run away faster than you're about to be schmacked upside the head!What's the purpose of the double G5 FSD?
To be able to run away faster than you're about to be schmacked upside the head!What's the purpose of the double G5 FSD?
Longer Jump Range and Cheaper Rebuy (they are zero value)What's the purpose of the double G5 FSD?
Almost. The one you get from the CG will be zero value. Any you buy after unlocking via the tech broker will have a purchase value.Longer Jump Range and Cheaper Rebuy (they are zero value)
I thought it's purchase value was mats...or does ED associated a base cost with tech broker items...never checkedAlmost. The one you get from the CG will be zero value. Any you buy after unlocking via the tech broker will have a purchase value.
The unlock cost is mats. You then just buy it with credits off outfitting at the same location as the tech broker.I thought it's purchase value was mats...or does ED associated a base cost with tech broker items...never checked
Er, no? Purchased with mats.The unlock cost is mats. You then just buy it with credits off outfitting at the same location as the tech broker.
Huh? So these operate entirely differently to all other tech broker things? That's a bit crazy if so.Er, no? Purchased with mats.
Yep, the double-engineered modules work differently. No one-time unlock with materials and then just buy for credits, but direct purchase of one module at a time with the materials every timeHuh? So these operate entirely differently to all other tech broker things? That's a bit crazy if so.
To clarify, all my experiences to date are:
- bring whatever doodads are needed to the tech broker
- unlock the module
- go to outfitting and purchase with credits
So that's not the case here?
Yep, the double-engineered modules work differently. No one-time unlock with materials and then just buy for credits, but direct purchase of one module at a time with the materials every time
... and be quick, as the huge CG discount will valid for only two weeks.Correct, and if you want 2, 3, 10 or whatever you multiply how many mats you need by that number.
... and be quick, as the huge CG discount will valid for only two weeks.
As I understand it the new ones are:Huh? So these operate entirely differently to all other tech broker things? That's a bit crazy if so.
To clarify, all my experiences to date are:
- bring whatever doodads are needed to the tech broker
- unlock the module
- go to outfitting and purchase with credits
So that's not the case here?
Yep, the double-engineered modules work differently. No one-time unlock with materials and then just buy for credits, but direct purchase of one module at a time with the materials every time
Uuuuuurrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh....As I understand it the new ones are:
- No unlock
- Buy for mats from the Broker
- Appear in Stored Modules
Yeah, crazy. People will be getting confused by this for years.
In some ways I can see why they did it - allowing people to buy fully engineered G5 FSD for CR would mean no-one would even engineer one again. Though I think even with the increased need for DWE to buy a broker-FSD vs engineering one I don't think many will be engineering G5 Size 5 FSDs from now. This will be even more true once the DSS is added to the tech-broker, as I think that one really is worthwhile.Uuuuuurrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh....
ofc any new player will have to be lucky to stumble across those modules. I'm sure they'll have redesigned for discoverability in Odyssey ...
I'm more surprised that people find most things under 'contacts'. Unless you look in each station it's pretty opaque what is available in a station.I have no idea how I missed that they were a thing.
I don't know - with the full discount it's pretty decent and I'll get a couple of them, but undiscounted it's got a lot of tricky stuff:In some ways I can see why they did it - allowing people to buy fully engineered G5 FSD for CR would mean no-one would even engineer one again. Though I think even with the increased need for DWE to buy a broker-FSD vs engineering one I don't think many will be engineering G5 Size 5 FSDs from now.
In terms of raw performance, sure, the DSS is ~Grade 10 while the FSD is ~Grade 7 ... but how many probes does it save you, and how many planets would you need to map to make up for the time spent collecting the extra materials?This will be even more true once the DSS is added to the tech-broker, as I think that one really is worthwhile.
Is the (grade 10) DSS available at tech brokers, if true I didn't know this.I don't know - with the full discount it's pretty decent and I'll get a couple of them, but undiscounted it's got a lot of tricky stuff:
- enough DWEs to fully engineer 2 standard G5 FSDs, or 3 mostly-complete ones
- Electrochemical Arrays are one of the hardest G3s to find, and it needs a lot of them
- Tellurium is one of the easiest G4 raws but that's still wanting a lot of it.
...for about 3LY extra range on a typical build. I'll get one for my main ship and one as a swappable spare while they're cheap, but it doesn't seem a generally useful trade-off.
In terms of raw performance, sure, the DSS is ~Grade 10 while the FSD is ~Grade 7 ... but how many probes does it save you, and how many planets would you need to map to make up for the time spent collecting the extra materials?
With 99% of the time in mapping being "getting in range of the target" anyway, I can't see it being that useful, especially not if it has a cost like this.
No, not yet. Presumably on the current pattern there'll be a CG sometime to introduce it there.Is the (grade 10) DSS available at tech brokers, if true I didn't know this.