General / Off-Topic Recycle or Die! (the elite environmental thread)

Sure, you guys "don't see the connection at all." Well, of course you don't, not when everyone who isn't ideologically aligned with you is an "aberration" as stated by Patrick a few quotes above, or how people who drive a different kind of vehicle that isn't woke skold approved "Owners of big cars and especially SUVs must be financially asphyxiated, to take away them the desire to rot the lives of others" again, a comment by Patrick (I lump most of you in the same category ideologically speaking, for the record, so his words and sentiment are shared by you as well). People who disagree should be financially "asphyxiated" because they're "rotting the lives of others." That's a powerful and hate filled sentiment right there, ladies and gentlemen.

See, that's the thing: when you get to the point where you look at people who disagree with you as sub human (common tactic of Messr Spiritwood) who are "rotting" the lives of others and you think they should be choked out, well, that's on a family friendly forum where you can say only so much and stay within the rules, it doesn't take a scientist to extrapolate from that point the road to fascism, totalitarian control and the ultimate liquidation of those who you feel are "aberrations" that you guys actually REALLY think but don't quite have the testicular fortitude to spell out in the public. Hence Demascus's comment in post #3006 that seems to be mystifying you so much.
Can you tell me what you consume daily ?

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or how people who drive a different kind of vehicle that isn't woke skold approved Owners of big cars and especially SUVs must be financially asphyxiated, to take away them the desire to rot the lives of others
Oh yes I forgot in my program, the car manufacturers must also be taxed heavily for each big car and SUV, manufactured.

:)

Of course it's just financial taxation, not human deportation in gulags.

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Sure, you guys "don't see the connection at all." Well, of course you don't, not when everyone who isn't ideologically aligned with you is an "aberration" as stated by Patrick a few quotes above, or how people who drive a different kind of vehicle that isn't woke skold approved "Owners of big cars and especially SUVs must be financially asphyxiated, to take away them the desire to rot the lives of others" again, a comment by Patrick (I lump most of you in the same category ideologically speaking, for the record, so his words and sentiment are shared by you as well). People who disagree should be financially "asphyxiated" because they're "rotting the lives of others." That's a powerful and hate filled sentiment right there, ladies and gentlemen.
That's why far-left and far-right are just 2 sides of the exact same coin. They both desire an authoritarian state to enforce their own views by any means necessary. And they cheer as their target "aberrations" are being "taken cared of". But like history has shown again and again, their sentiment of happiness never lasts long, as inevitably the state will turn it's gaze on them and they will become the new aberrations needing to be taken care of.
 
That's why far-left and far-right are just 2 sides of the exact same coin. They both desire an authoritarian state to enforce their own views by any means necessary. And they cheer as their target "aberrations" are being "taken cared of". But like history has shown again and again, their sentiment of happiness never lasts long, as inevitably the state will turn it's gaze on them and they will become the new aberrations needing to be taken care of.
Without going further into politics, and without being much of a conspiracy guy, following Prince Andrew's "verbal suicide" and reading some of the (edited?) flight lists from Epstein's Lolita Express, has left me somewhat doubtful that even talking over the battlefield is realistic. It seems that most of the people humanity is having faith in, when it comes to finding solutions, are busy molesting teenage girls. That includes politicians from allover the political spectrum, scientists, economists, UN representatives, royals and lawyers to name a few.

There is no plan, and the reason is that a plan is either impossible due to physics, or it's not "acceptable" by the voters. If I believed in a deity, I would say "God help us all", but I'm agnostic, bordering atheist.
 
Without going further into politics, and without being much of a conspiracy guy, following Prince Andrew's "verbal suicide" and reading some of the (edited?) flight lists from Epstein's Lolita Express, has left me somewhat doubtful that even talking over the battlefield is realistic. It seems that most of the people humanity is having faith in, when it comes to finding solutions, are busy molesting teenage girls. That includes politicians from allover the political spectrum, scientists, economists, UN representatives, royals and lawyers to name a few.

There is no plan, and the reason is that a plan is either impossible due to physics, or it's not "acceptable" by the voters. If I believed in a deity, I would say "God help us all", but I'm agnostic, bordering atheist.
Have not looked at that list myself. The depredations of the powerful over the weak always incenses me, so maybe it would be better to just exercise and sleep.
 
The guys at Coldplay (who's music I like) are realizing the inevitable conclusion that their wokeness is leading them to: if we follow the CCC ideology to it's logical conclusion, we will never do anything.
 
Can you tell me what you consume daily ?

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Less than you I'm willing to bet. And unlike you, I actually have a business that positively impacts homes and businesses to bring them up to "greener" low emission, efficient heating/cooling standards, while you on the other hand only talk on the Internet and scold people.

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Oh yes I forgot in my program, the car manufacturers must also be taxed heavily for each big car and SUV, manufactured.

:)

Of course it's just financial taxation, not human deportation in gulags.

😂
At some point cars will get taxed out of existence and then all that lost tax will get redistributed to everyone else, as it is at the moment though, we are contributing more to society than the flakey new age folk sitting on the top of trains moaning ;)
 
I actually have a business that positively impacts homes and businesses to bring them up to "greener" low emission, efficient heating/cooling standards
Here, the art of giving oneself a good conscience with very little.

While you rot the people’s lives with your big 4X4 and SUVs and destroy the planet with your overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

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Here, the art of giving oneself a good conscience with very little.

While you rot the people’s lives with your big 4X4 and SUVs and destroy the planet with your overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

😂
You call a business that restores buildings to be dramatically more energy efficient, a worthy goal for anyone who is actually interested in the planet's various systems, "very little?" That seems like yet another inconsistent position, Patrick. Par for the course.
 
You call a business that restores buildings to be dramatically more energy efficient, a worthy goal for anyone who is actually interested in the planet's various systems, "very little?" That seems like yet another inconsistent position, Patrick. Par for the course.
I didn’t say that. I said that your small restoration business does not allow you to get a good conscience in view of the damage you inflict elsewhere.

Do not use your business to buy you a virginity. This is not the first time you do it and it indicates that you clearly have a guilt problem that you repress using your business.

Your contacts on the forum are intelligent and enlightened people. Do not take them for morons by regularly promoting your small business.
 
I didn’t say that. I said that your small restoration business does not allow you to get a good conscience in view of the damage you inflict elsewhere.

Do not use your business to buy you a virginity. This is not the first time you do it and it indicates that you clearly have a guilt problem that you repress using your business.

Your contacts on the forum are intelligent and enlightened people. Do not take them for morons by regularly promoting your small business.
No, I feel absolutely no guilt regarding this issue. Not even a speck. I only bring it up to draw once again the basic absurdity of the argument; people who do nothing to effect a positive change scolding me, while I actually do quite a lot to effect a positive change, sans the hand wringing melodrama. It goes to prove my theory; your crowd isn't interested in change, or even a positive outcome, but instead all that you care about are casting bad guys to hurl insults and toxin at that is on par with the material you'd expect to find squeezing a syphilitic camel's impacted anal glands.
 
I only bring it up to draw once again the basic absurdity of the argument; people who do nothing to effect a positive change
Well, rest assured, I'm doing a lot to fight against the global warming.

Certainly as much as you, and even more surely.

The few buildings that you put to the ecological standards just compensate for your drift of premium polluter.

You make a zero-sum game and I even think that as you are a fan of overconsumption, overproduction and overpollution, your work is not enough to exonerate you from your environmental egoism.
 
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Well, rest assured, I'm doing a lot to fight against the global warming.

Certainly as much as you, and even more surely.

The few buildings that you put to the ecological standards just compensate for your drift of premium polluter.

You make a zero-sum game and I even think that as you are a fan of overconsumption, overproduction and overpollution, your work is not enough to exonerate you from your environmental egoism.
What do you do?
 
What do you do?
The opposite of you.

No overproduction, no overconsumption, no over-pollution.

A small example ?

Compare our respective carbon footprints.

You have a big 4x4 and several SUVs (of what you said)

I do not use a fossil fuel vehicle, and it's a huge effort and a personal sacrifice.

We can compare what you throw in the atmosphere with your mini trucks for 1 year, and me with my legs and the exhaled air of my lungs.

;)
 
The opposite of you.

No overproduction, no overconsumption, no over-pollution.

A small example ?

Compare our respective carbon footprints.

You have a big 4x4 and several SUVs (of what you said)

I do not use a fossil fuel vehicle, and it's a huge effort and a personal sacrifice.

We can compare what you throw in the atmosphere with your mini trucks for 1 year, and me with my legs and the exhaled air of my lungs.

;)
I wasn't trying to figure out your carbon footprint, that's only part of the equation. What I was getting at is what do you DO, not what you consume/excrete. I mean, even if you're sitting still other people in industry are motivating the economy, providing goods and essential services and generally producing/excreting on your behalf, you're just to two faced and dishonest to own your impacts. Nah, I was trying to get at what you do in you professional life to effect change in the planet's eco systems. See, as an example I improve anywhere from 30-50 buildings and homes a year to make them more energy efficient and therefore less wasteful to the planet in all respects, something I think most reasonable people would agree is a good thing; what do you do to effect change?
 
I wasn't trying to figure out your carbon footprint, that's only part of the equation. What I was getting at is what do you DO, not what you consume/excrete. I mean, even if you're sitting still other people in industry are motivating the economy, providing goods and essential services and generally producing/excreting on your behalf, you're just to two faced and dishonest to own your impacts. Nah, I was trying to get at what you do in you professional life to effect change in the planet's eco systems. See, as an example I improve anywhere from 30-50 buildings and homes a year to make them more energy efficient and therefore less wasteful to the planet in all respects, something I think most reasonable people would agree is a good thing; what do you do to effect change?
What you do is useless Jason.

As I told you it's a zero sum game.

You break the things and after, you try more or less to limit the damage.

Recently I read an analysis that says: "The States have set targets for greenhouse gas emission reductions such as environmental upgrading of buildings" - "But at the same time they allow the manufacture of millions of SUVs that destroy the efforts made previously ".

I will have respect for what you do professionally when you change your behavior in your private life. Sell your SUVs, stop overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

But you are too hypocritical to do it. Your convictions are not strong enough.

You give yourself a good conscience by adapting some buildings to limit the damage that you do elsewhere.

And the first goal of your professional orientation, is not the love of the planet (you have often proved that it is secondary for you), but simply the greed.

Because you have felt the good vein to make money and continue in the egoist way of overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

Do like me, to make authentic acts in your private life for the good of the planet and not as you do by placing on one side placebos on a patient and injecting him with poison on the other side.
 
What you do is useless Jason.

As I told you it's a zero sum game.

You break the things and after, you try more or less to limit the damage.

Recently I read an analysis that says: "The States have set targets for greenhouse gas emission reductions such as environmental upgrading of buildings" - "But at the same time they allow the manufacture of millions of SUVs that destroy the efforts made previously ".

I will have respect for what you do professionally when you change your behavior in your private life. Sell your SUVs, stop overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

But you are too hypocritical to do it. Your convictions are not strong enough.

You give yourself a good conscience by adapting some buildings to limit the damage that you do elsewhere.

And the first goal of your professional orientation, is not the love of the planet (you have often proved that it is secondary for you), but simply the greed.

Because you have felt the good vein to make money and continue in the egoist way of overconsumption, overproduction, overpollution.

Do like me, to make authentic acts in your private life for the good of the planet and not as you do by placing on one side placebos on a patient and injecting him with poison on the other side.
You are kind of pathological, aren't you? M'kay, gonna leave this alone for now. The crazy might start catching.
 
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