That seems like a rather pedestrian way of analyzing auto safety, but even if we go with such a simplistic measuring stick the formula would go something like: if you're in a Suburban, a semi truck like the one pictured is going to be bigger than you and potentially more deadly in a contact situation, whilst if you're in a small compact everything is bigger and potentially more deadly. Still comes down to playing the odds and making yourself as safe as possible, while understanding that there are no guarantees.
General / Off-Topic Recycle or Die! (the elite environmental thread)
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The problem is we can't really afford to ignore them, as they are the ones that keep on voting in people like Trump or the Torries (and their messy involvement with fracking in the uk) in out political systems, and that causes the problems to just get worse for all of us.
So while it is frustrating, and often seemingly pointless, i think we need to help clarify the science in AGW, and how it is no different to the science that makes a plane fly or car drive etc. Science (when peer reviewed off course!) is what helps us tell facts from fallacies, and in the case of AGW, the vested interests of the Big Oil companies have been pulling the wool over peoples eyes for decades and we are just running out of time to stop a nasty future for our grand-children.
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'Air pollution kills five people in Bristol each week, study shows':
www.theguardian.com
Just another reason we should switch from ICE to EV personal vehicles, to clean up the dangerous air.
So while it is frustrating, and often seemingly pointless, i think we need to help clarify the science in AGW, and how it is no different to the science that makes a plane fly or car drive etc. Science (when peer reviewed off course!) is what helps us tell facts from fallacies, and in the case of AGW, the vested interests of the Big Oil companies have been pulling the wool over peoples eyes for decades and we are just running out of time to stop a nasty future for our grand-children.
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'Air pollution kills five people in Bristol each week, study shows':
Air pollution kills five people in Bristol each week, study shows
Toxic air contributes to health conditions such as asthma, cancer and stroke, say experts
www.theguardian.com
Just another reason we should switch from ICE to EV personal vehicles, to clean up the dangerous air.
Weren't you complaining this thread kept getting locked for discussing politics?
Nice try 
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Still ultimately this is what it is all about:
'Saudi Aramco valuation falls below $2tn target':
www.theguardian.com
Where the vast wealth and power of Big Oil has been driving our economies and markets for decades and boosting the CO2 output alongside that. It is good to see the markets start to understand the danger they have put the whole foundations of human civilization in, and slowly start to adjust. Still it is a shame that options like this float are still possible, near total divestment from fossil fuel is the only way to ensure longterm human civilzation on this planet, as we have found out (and are finding out increasingly).
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Still ultimately this is what it is all about:
'Saudi Aramco valuation falls below $2tn target':
Saudi Aramco valuation falls below $2tn target
World’s most profitable company names IPO share price bracket, valuing itself at up to $1.7tn
www.theguardian.com
Where the vast wealth and power of Big Oil has been driving our economies and markets for decades and boosting the CO2 output alongside that. It is good to see the markets start to understand the danger they have put the whole foundations of human civilization in, and slowly start to adjust. Still it is a shame that options like this float are still possible, near total divestment from fossil fuel is the only way to ensure longterm human civilzation on this planet, as we have found out (and are finding out increasingly).
Yes, but when he complains he means only when someone who he disagrees with is doing it.
Again, nice try
And you posted good stuff on the SUV/big car safety aspect Jason. This does really matter to many family people, and in the USA you have traditionally been into bigger cars in general vs what we do over here in 'europe'. I suspect much of that is due to the 'olde worlde' way many of our towns and villages have been laid out (before cars were a thing) and the in general more cramped geography (UK especially!). But yeah big safe cars are easy to sell to families concerned about collisions etc. That habit is hard to break, as we can see from SUV sales year over year, and globally not just in the USA.
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Some 'upside' to the more extreme weather AGW is bringing us:
'Renewable energy: Rise in global wind speed to boost green power':
www.bbc.com
Not so shabby boost that
And you posted good stuff on the SUV/big car safety aspect Jason. This does really matter to many family people, and in the USA you have traditionally been into bigger cars in general vs what we do over here in 'europe'. I suspect much of that is due to the 'olde worlde' way many of our towns and villages have been laid out (before cars were a thing) and the in general more cramped geography (UK especially!). But yeah big safe cars are easy to sell to families concerned about collisions etc. That habit is hard to break, as we can see from SUV sales year over year, and globally not just in the USA.
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Some 'upside' to the more extreme weather AGW is bringing us:
'Renewable energy: Rise in global wind speed to boost green power':
Renewable energy: Rise in global wind speed to boost green power
Rising winds could increase energy production from turbines by a third over the next decade.
www.bbc.com
Not so shabby boost that
Sure, you can sneer "nice try" because you're apparently sanctioned to flagrantly break not only your own thread rules, but the forum rules as well. Bottom line, Zak, is that this is just another example of the flaming hypocrisy that I've repeatedly pointed out from your side of the aisle.Again, nice try
And you posted good stuff on the SUV/big car safety aspect Jason. This does really matter to many family people, and in the USA you have traditionally been into bigger cars in general vs what we do over here in 'europe'. I suspect much of that is due to the 'olde worlde' way many of our towns and villages have been laid out (before cars were a thing) and the in general more cramped geography (UK especially!). But yeah big safe cars are easy to sell to families concerned about collisions etc. That habit is hard to break, as we can see from SUV sales year over year, and globally not just in the USA.
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Some 'upside' to the more extreme weather AGW is bringing us:
'Renewable energy: Rise in global wind speed to boost green power':
Renewable energy: Rise in global wind speed to boost green power
Rising winds could increase energy production from turbines by a third over the next decade.
Not so shabby boost that
It is necessary to tax even more heavily the owners of big cars and particularly the SUVs.
Hit them hard on the wallet.
With the purchase of the new and used vehicle, but also a differentiated tariff at the petrol pump and also an annual tax of big polluter.
Vehicle maintenance and repairs must be taxed more than for normal cars.
Same thing for insurance.
Owners of big cars and especially SUVs must be financially asphyxiated, to take away them the desire to rot the lives of others.
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You would be a successful left-wing politician. You have all the necessary qualifications, your solution to everything is more taxes.
your solution to everything is more taxes.
No, not to everythingl.
Just to the aberrations.
Im sure something similar was said during WWII.......No, not to everythingl.
Just to the aberrations.
Tax the jews? No I don't think so.
Yep. The sentiment expressed by that poster reeks of it.
'Fossil fuel production on track for double the safe climate limit':
www.theguardian.com
This is dangerous stuff.
Fossil fuel production on track for double the safe climate limit
‘We’re in a deep hole over the climate crisis and we need to stop digging,’ warn experts
www.theguardian.com
This is dangerous stuff.
I do not see the link
It seems that regulating motor cars is akin to mass murder, somehow?
The Governments simply have to go.
They are unequal to the task. Mine sure is. They can't fix potholes in the road with a pitch lake, unemployed people, and oil money all going unused.
Sure, you guys "don't see the connection at all." Well, of course you don't, not when everyone who isn't ideologically aligned with you is an "aberration" as stated by Patrick a few quotes above, or how people who drive a different kind of vehicle that isn't woke skold approved "Owners of big cars and especially SUVs must be financially asphyxiated, to take away them the desire to rot the lives of others" again, a comment by Patrick (I lump most of you in the same category ideologically speaking, for the record, so his words and sentiment are shared by you as well). People who disagree should be financially "asphyxiated" because they're "rotting the lives of others." That's a powerful and hate filled sentiment right there, ladies and gentlemen.
See, that's the thing: when you get to the point where you look at people who disagree with you as sub human (common tactic of Messr Spiritwood) who are "rotting" the lives of others and you think they should be choked out, well, that's on a family friendly forum where you can say only so much and stay within the rules, it doesn't take a scientist to extrapolate from that point the road to fascism, totalitarian control and the ultimate liquidation of those who you feel are "aberrations" that you guys actually REALLY think but don't quite have the testicular fortitude to spell out in the public. Hence Demascus's comment in post #3006 that seems to be mystifying you so much.
See, that's the thing: when you get to the point where you look at people who disagree with you as sub human (common tactic of Messr Spiritwood) who are "rotting" the lives of others and you think they should be choked out, well, that's on a family friendly forum where you can say only so much and stay within the rules, it doesn't take a scientist to extrapolate from that point the road to fascism, totalitarian control and the ultimate liquidation of those who you feel are "aberrations" that you guys actually REALLY think but don't quite have the testicular fortitude to spell out in the public. Hence Demascus's comment in post #3006 that seems to be mystifying you so much.
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