If public and scientific poles have shown anything is that climate change deniers are a minority so no "three fingers" to point at me.
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If public and scientific poles have shown anything is that climate change deniers are a minority so no "three fingers" to point at me.
You failed kindy, didn't you. Raise your right hand, point one finger away from you, look at your right palm...
What's this gibberish supposed to mean?
There's no point in reviewing information that I already know is not true, it's a waste of time.
Right, so you admit you polarised heavily to one side of the argument and refuse to consider alternatives.
No, I simply avoid wasting my time reading things that are blatantly wrong.
I could say the same about the rubbish the crisis team post, without reference, or I could look at the points they are making and create a more informed view on both sides of the debate. Unlike the self confessed "denier" thinking they already know everything there is to know because the religious cult buddies said so.
I don't like wasting time either, but if I'm going to argue a point raised in a link, it's best to click the link first.
Religious cult buddies? That's some good crack-pot you're smoking my friend.
Ok, let's try this again, and I'm going to re-link the same video for you below, assuming you'll ignore it...
In the one camp we appear to have a bunch of people that believe the climate crisis mantra, and with their limited binary thinking have decided that ALL climate change is bad and that it's ALL the fault of the stupid humans that disagree, so they run around shrieking, scaring the children and gluing their hands to things.
In the other camp we have people that for the most part agree on almost every point raised by the crisis actors except one: Humans are probably causing SOME of the warming, but they're willing to admit they, and nobody else really knows exactly how much, and they'd like to examine the data for more information.
One camp exalts "settled consensus" dogma and refuses to budge (see denial), the other is still curious.
26 years before Greta Thunberg, a teenager already warned heads of state on global warming.
Severn Cullis-Suzuki was just 12 years old when she went to the UN Earth Summit in 1992.
Severn Cullis-Suzuki was just 12 years old when she went to the UN Earth Summit in 1992.
Yep, some of us knew that. Did you take a moment to look up her dad, David? Alarmist repeat behaviour?
Still yet to see why they are a religious cult.
Did you take a moment to look at the state of the planet since 1992 ?
Well, I think I've put more than enough time into patiently explaining it to you. Did you watch the video yet?
Yup, and it didn't match the doom and gloom predictions that time either.
The forces at play managed to kill the climate change thread, after it was active for > one month and >90 pages. The usual suspects will succeed to kill this thread too.
I came late to the debate, and was engaged quickly by the Trolls and Astroturfers, I blocked them via ignore, two days later I was banned by a standardized text message for posting a link to research from nature dot com and for mentioning Adorno in context. How risible is that really?
Remember, this is the way they operate, their goal is to have discussion and debate on climate change repressed wherever they can come across it. That's all I have to say.
I came late to the debate, and was engaged quickly by the Trolls and Astroturfers, I blocked them via ignore, two days later I was banned by a standardized text message for posting a link to research from nature dot com and for mentioning Adorno in context. How risible is that really?
Remember, this is the way they operate, their goal is to have discussion and debate on climate change repressed wherever they can come across it. That's all I have to say.
Yes the current situation is much worse.
I think most of that comes from those that might be called AGW Deniers though? In fact that is 100% my experience as shown in this very thread (and the other) and any others one cares to look into.
The science (rational proven method) has been telling us for decades that AGW is real and we need to do something about it.
Those that deny AGW is real have very little evidence to back that opinion, but focus LOTS (all?) of their attention on 'conspiracy of world scientists' or straw-man using some science that ultimately is either taken out of context or is only partially true or does not stand up to the level of scientific scrutiny that the science telling us AGW is real has gone through.
Who behaves 'cultish' like? Those that follow a rational scientific deductive process that we built the modern world using, or those that have to resort to ludicrous conspiracies (i love a 'good' 'real' conspiracy myself, but the one AGW deniers employ are very thin and kind of embarrassing!) and insults ('woke', 'snowflake', etc) to fail to get others to agree with them?
I'd take a good hard look in the mirror and decide which describes your conduct the most here?
We have real actual proof that the big oil companies have been creating cover stories and fake news after their own (real) scientific research into AGW proved it was going to happen from using the product they relied on for their power and influence. It's one of the main reasons Exxon-Mobile are in court at this moment. This is 'real', (like the science behind AGW being real is real!) and the widely accepted version. Rationality is showing us that AGW is a real concern and we are creating these problems, and the sensible people are understanding this (in the face of the misinformation and fake-science) and slowly moving in the right direction despite the large concerted efforts of those in the Oil industry to slow all that process down.
This thread (and the other) are like 90% full of actual scientific information and about 10% full of the 'waste of time fantasy' stuff you like to 'contribute'. That is a good real world reflection on the AGW 'debate'. The debate has actually long been over (for the rational minds that don't want to create a terrible world for those that follow them), and now it is about carrying on the pressure (against the fake news and false conspiracies) to ensure those in governance actually do something before it is too late.
If the actual facts could say AGW was not real, that is where i'd be putting my hat. That is not the case so i can not support a 'theory' that can't even prove itself properly.
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Now some 'environmental' stuff as this thread covers the recycle stuff too:
'Sperm whale dies with 100kg 'litter ball' in its stomach':
Sperm whale dies with 100kg 'litter ball' in its stomach
Fishing nets and rope were among the debris found inside the whale which stranded on the Isle of Harris.
www.bbc.com
'Toxic chemical cocktail' passed to baby porpoises:
'Toxic chemical cocktail' passed to baby porpoises
Potent chemicals are unwittingly passed down from mother to calf, according to a UK study.
www.bbc.com
So we have to keep fighting against all the non AGW mess we tend to make in our ultimately self-destructive modern life styles, plastics are a huge problem across the food chain and we will see the negative effects in our lives (if we are not already?). And the same for the toxic chemicals we drain into the sea's, we are mammals too and every child born today (from anywhere in the world) carries toxic contamination they would not have 100 years ago. Important things to think on.
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Ok i saw you all managed to close the other thread (permantly it says). So well done the usual crowd for getting that result, your obvious attempts clearly go under the radar of the Forum Moderators here (every time).
I nearly decided to go into the process of contacting Frontier to deal with this better (if i was the Mod i would simply warn individual posters that are obviously trolling and ban them from posting in those threads as they are aiming to get them closed).
Then i decided it was a waste of my time. I put a lot of time and effort into these threads. 'Recycle or Die!' was a message from the Elite games, it was there for a reason.
Anyway good luck with the thread i have others to focus on where the moderation does not get it consistantly (mostly) wrong Thanks for the Fish!
I understand these threads are not 'easy' to deal with. But whom pushes 'off topic' the most is like night and day. And just to be clear, i'm saying if you wish to close this thread permantly like the other one, you have my blessing. Good day.
Ok i saw you all managed to close the other thread (permantly it says). So well done the usual crowd for getting that result, your obvious attempts clearly go under the radar of the Forum Moderators here (every time).
I nearly decided to go into the process of contacting Frontier to deal with this better (if i was the Mod i would simply warn individual posters that are obviously trolling and ban them from posting in those threads as they are aiming to get them closed).
Then i decided it was a waste of my time. I put a lot of time and effort into these threads. 'Recycle or Die!' was a message from the Elite games, it was there for a reason.
Anyway good luck with the thread i have others to focus on where the moderation does not get it consistantly (mostly) wrong Thanks for the Fish!
I understand these threads are not 'easy' to deal with. But whom pushes 'off topic' the most is like night and day. And just to be clear, i'm saying if you wish to close this thread permantly like the other one, you have my blessing. Good day.
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