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Replace SRVs (Make mat grinding fun)
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How. How is it good at traversing the planets created by the stellar forge? Which are littered with outcroppings and terrain that is literally impassable by the SRV?
Youre telling me, in all seriousness, that if you had an in-universe 3D printer, in a world capable of essentially infinite energy and propulsion you would create a wheeled, terrestrial vehicle with an open differential and no suspension.
FURTHER, youre saying that if you wanted to create an interesting area of gameplay by navigating over said terrain it would be a motorized sled that can, sometimes, shoot at things.
To the guy who said a quadcopter couldn’t fly on a low atom planet and transport “tons” - so ridiculous, right?
Please point to the part of the SRV that is factually capable of transporting “tons” - then, please post a graphic of a “ton” of iron from the game (I believe it’s about the size of a football in game) - now point to the propellor on a skimmer.
Oh and here’s a photo for the guy saying “There’s no room for a cockpit on a skimmer!” Which, hey buddy, it’s not a real thing - it can be whatever “size” FDev wants it to be - ANYWAY SEE THE PHOTO
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I'm that guy. Why you put tons in "quotes"? Cmdrs use the SRV to transport several tons, and the pilot. Skimmers are remote controlled and don't carry a payload. So how does a quad copter fly on a zero atmo planet?
Edit: Just for clarification, are you calling a skimmer a quadcopter? They do have vertical thrusters, I don't know how they work. But I don't think they have spinney helicopter blades. I think you are confusing your own discussion by repeatedly calling for a quadcopter when I don't think that's what you mean. Because that doesn't make any sense.
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Tons is in quotes because this is a video game, there is no way to actually measure things. Your argument was that an SRV can transport tons, but it is crazy to think that an aerial vehicle could do so. As if it was a real physical limiting factor (and not a video game, which it is).
The SRV can carry 4(?) “tons,” most “tons” in the game are represented as an item the size of a rugby ball… stop pretending you don’t know what I’m talking about.
Tons is in quotes because it has no concrete meaning in this context.
Over the years I have seen lots of great alternative suggestions to the SRV. A quadcopter is not one of them. It doesn't make any sense. A skimmer is not a quadcopter. It is a device with multiple vertical thrusters: yes. Google translate issue maybe? You destroyed your own idea by repeating incorrect words.
I know exactly what the OP has been writing. Silly to imagine it as something different just to agree with it.
What the OP has been writing might not be what the OP meant to say. Instead of shutting an idea down, try making it work better. That goes for everyone reading this comment and posting on any topic. Not just the quoted person.
Don’t bother. The skimmers are quad copters, or at least, clearly modeled after them and thats the closest analogue. It’s a video game. One that plays very loosely with reality and physics.
Someone claiming they aren’t isn’t being intellectually honest with you. No one needs to reinterpret what I said more charitably. Skimmers are an artistic rendering of a futuristic quadcopter, and they do not actually exist.
Everyone is clear on what I am saying. That’s why they ignored the other 10 salient points and are talking about the density of imaginary atoms in a videogame. It’s just fun to be combative, I guess
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I've got my combat rank up by hunting Thargoid Scavengers at Thargoid Site on main using old SRV and almost 100% of required rank for engineers I needed on alt. I have used it in ground missions to clear out settlements until I got good enough just to run around settlement with sizeable tail behind looting stuff I needed for suits.
I was also using it to get rare materials while being on longer exploration trip in the past.
It also has some weird bugs like being shoot high into sky when You hit something on the ground at low speed.
I miss some features like using boosters in assist mode to increase tire grip on steep slopes.
Old SRV is capable of supporting pilot life on heavy gravity planets which would turn pilot into pancake so I would not replace it. Instead I would add hoover type SRV (modified fighter for example) or ability to use hoover mode- it should not be a problem when tech is advanced enough to make ~1000t ship land on planets with tens of Gs.
I would definitely produce a multi-wheeled vehicle but it wouldn’t use differentials or drive shafts but each wheel would be driven by its own built in motor, which is what I presume the SRVs have, there would be some form of suspension though. I would also produce tracked vehicles and a mono-wheeled one like the one in the Iain M Banks novel Against a Dark Background.
The thing is they are an ingame item that has a generic name Skimmer and specific version names Like Goliath for the large 4 drive unit version calling them after a non game item has inevitably caused some confusion because why would you talk about a non game thing like a quadcopter if you actually meant the ingame thing the skimmer.
Perhaps your other points in the OP were put aside while people dealt with what you meant by quadcopter and disagreed with your views on the existing vehicles. To touch on one thing you mentioned caves aren’t going to happens as the planet generation can’t produce them due to height mapping.
Those aren't skimmers. Skimmers have only two "rotors". The ones you're referencing are Goliaths and as the name implies, they are rather large and aren't likely to fit inside any ship.
Except the SRV has a good four feet of suspension travel if not more, and it doesn't have an open differential or a closed differential or any differential. And nor does it exhibit the classic problem with an open diff where one wheel spins up.
So... I don't understand why you are asking this in the first place?
That does sound fun tbh
I don't know maybe the capacity for FOUR STANDARD ONE TONNE CARGO CANISTERS is a clue here?
Looks like there’s plenty of room and weight allowance in there. How does it fly on low/no atmosphere? Idk
doesn’t matter because it does and it’s a video game.No one questions your ship having the ability to infinitely hover above a planet with not atmosphere and 5x earth gravity.
We found a way to turn space ships into space planes, I’m sure we can whip up some lore on something similar to this.
Maybe you even drop it from off the ground a little, then it lands and the “horizontal overhead circular thrusters that DEFINITELY aren’t quadcopter blades” unfold from the top, the way the SRVs wheels unpack.
Idk looks pretty fun to me…
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They don’t even have a bed. Ok well we’ll be sure to put that the improved flying replacement of the SRV carries 100 tons in the description - problem solved.
Just for your edification here is a photo of a ton of steel rebar and an SRV. Have fun transporting 4X that with this vehicle.
Honestly a flying vehicle with a tether makes more sense than the idea. That something the size of the SRV could carry 4 tons
4 Tonnes of steel takes the same volume as 3.18 oil barrels.
Yeah, I was going to say, when dealing with shipping, half the time it isn't by actual weight, but by volume. Shipping Tons (and/or Tonnes) are strictly volume, because we assume engineering has reached the point ships can equally handle lifting the mass of whatever.
... not to be a pedant about it, or anything.
... not to be a pedant about it, or anything.
good point - there isn’t enough room for one oil barrel on an SRV. So…
Man this quadcopter idea must be pretty solid if people this committed to poking holes in it are googling mass conversion of video game materials
Scoops are all magic.
The one on the SRV can scoop stuff that is passing overhead as long as it is targeted.