Modes Restrict or remove PvE from the game, making Open a nicer place

I doubt making PP open only is "wanting to change every aspect of the game", common, today PP is used for modules only, this is not what it was supposed to be.


Much more than PP, but just focusing on that... there are those who play PP to *Gasp* play PP. I have no PP modules yet I help my faction as I can. I don't grind it for rewards, I play it for RP.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Much more than PP, but just focusing on that... there are those who play PP to *Gasp* play PP. I have no PP modules yet I help my faction as I can. I don't grind it for rewards, I play it for RP.

PP and BGS are not the same, if you are helping a faction you are engaging in BGS manipulation. PP is different.
 
PVP in this game is not fun, productive, or in any way adds to anyone's enjoyment of the game itself.
Speak for yourself, I love PVP in this game. Sure I would love to be able to interdict a few hundred transport ships and affect the outcome of a CG that I don't like or have dueling CG with the winner taking the system like the battle of Lugh ( the end of that haunts me to this day) but in space if a ship dosen't want to be found it can hide quite well so to me players going in solo are justifyed. I myslef love to run the gauntlet of pirates trying to hunt me down so I chose to fly my T-7 in open from time to time, thats one way I enjoy PVP.

Another reason PVP is so great in this game is modules being damaged and heat damage. However the best part of this game is the lasers doing instant hitting and the projectiles having travel time. No other (space simulator) game has this. Eve is all calculated behind the game like a RPG and other games have projectile lasers like a star-wars movie (I love SW btw) even the upcoming SC game (if it ever releases is another story) will not have instant hitting lasers.

PVP in this game kicks but.
 
PVP in this game is not fun, productive, or in any way adds to anyone's enjoyment of the game itself.
Speak for yourself, I love PVP in this game. Sure I would love to be able to interdict a few hundred transport ships and affect the outcome of a CG that I don't like or have dueling CG with the winner taking the system like the battle of Lugh ( the end of that haunts me to this day) but in space if a ship dosen't want to be found it can hide quite well so to me players going in solo are justifyed. I myslef love to run the gauntlet of pirates trying to hunt me down so I chose to fly my T-7 in open from time to time, thats one way I enjoy PVP.

Another reason PVP is so great in this game is modules being damaged and heat damage. However the best part of this game is the lasers doing instant hitting and the projectiles having travel time. No other (space simulator) game has this. Eve is all calculated behind the game like a RPG and other games have projectile lasers like a star-wars movie (I love SW btw) even the upcoming SC game (if it ever releases is another story) will not have instant hitting lasers.

PVP in this game kicks but.

Good luck Joe. Im gonna tag you in.
 
I have an account on Reddit and read posts there,

Weirdly so do I.

And for every 1 thread that moans about the mode system, hundreds exist that don't care about it - it's just gamers playing a game.

In fact, I had a number somewhere that was a post count for the most popular thread on Reddit that was bashing the mode system in Elite - it was a low number, it didn't even match one of our SOG threads.
 
Speak for yourself, I love PVP in this game.
Another reason PVP is so great in this game is modules being damaged and heat damage. However the best part of this game is the lasers doing instant hitting and the projectiles having travel time. No other (space simulator) game has this. Eve is all calculated behind the game like a RPG and other games have projectile lasers like a star-wars movie (I love SW btw) even the upcoming SC game (if it ever releases is another story) will not have instant hitting lasers.

PVP in this game kicks but.

Hmm these are instant hitting…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSljIPMqcHs


But I see your point.
 
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Speak for yourself, I love PVP in this game. Sure I would love to be able to interdict a few hundred transport ships and affect the outcome of a CG that I don't like or have dueling CG with the winner taking the system like the battle of Lugh ( the end of that haunts me to this day) but in space if a ship dosen't want to be found it can hide quite well so to me players going in solo are justifyed. I myslef love to run the gauntlet of pirates trying to hunt me down so I chose to fly my T-7 in open from time to time, thats one way I enjoy PVP.

Another reason PVP is so great in this game is modules being damaged and heat damage. However the best part of this game is the lasers doing instant hitting and the projectiles having travel time. No other (space simulator) game has this. Eve is all calculated behind the game like a RPG and other games have projectile lasers like a star-wars movie (I love SW btw) even the upcoming SC game (if it ever releases is another story) will not have instant hitting lasers.

PVP in this game kicks but.

Then why you all in here crying that PVP sucks because there are no people in Open? Can't really have it both ways!
 
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Fixed it...definitely Thargoid intervention.

Wow, just wow.

I didn't think anything could make EVE even more dull than my memories of it, but that dude has one heck of a monotone voice.
I watched 45 seconds of that video and now I'm phoning the Samaritans for emotional support.

You really need to put a health warning on that post dude :p

Better than my nightly dose of melatonin!
 
Wow, just wow.

I didn't think anything could make EVE even more dull than my memories of it, but that dude has one heck of a monotone voice.
I watched 45 seconds of that video and now I'm phoning the Samaritans for emotional support.

You really need to put a health warning on that post dude :p

Sorry,bud


Edit: it's not that different from ObsAnt's voice which I love BTW
 
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Hmm these are instant hitting…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSljIPMqcHs


But I see your point.

Thank you.

ok they look instant hitting but that is only if your skill level and range are in the correct level i.e. close enough to have your ship hit. Guns in eve have the same math but a different "falloff" equation. I've spent five years in Eve and don't regret a moment of it. However now that my skill is the only thing deciding if my plasma accelerator hits and I have a choice to put guns on any of my ships [Hail Minmatar!] I just cant get myself out of this game.
 
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ALGOMATIC

Banned
Wow, just wow.

I didn't think anything could make EVE even more dull than my memories of it, but that dude has one heck of a monotone voice.
I watched 45 seconds of that video and now I'm phoning the Samaritans for emotional support.

You really need to put a health warning on that post dude :p

Yeah, that game has all the content but they forgot to implement proper fight and flight mecahnics, I guess cant have it all.
 
Thank you.

ok they look instant hitting but that is only if your skill level and range are in the correct level i.e. close enough to have your ship hit. Guns in eve have the same math but a different "falloff" equation. I've spent five years in Eve and don't regret a moment of it. However now that my skill is the only thing deciding if my plasma accelerator hits and I have a choice to put guns on any of my ships [Hail Minmatar!] I just cant get myself out of this game.


Then accept the game for what it isn't...(Hint: It's not Eve)...no executive control, crappy economics, and all about crap PVP. It's all about moving the PVE trophies to make the galaxy change....
 
Yeah, that game has all the content but they forgot to implement proper fight and flight mecahnics, I guess cant have it all.

Yeah.
Hence why if FD ever makes single shard server universe game with player driven politics, economy, production and drama, making ship wrecks and minerals both essential for industry and asset production, coupled with the awesome flight model, VR and Galaxy generator of ED, it will be the winner IMHO. No other game would ever contest it for the next 20+ years.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Then accept the game for what it isn't...Hint: It's not Eve...no executive control, crappy economics, crap PVP. It's all about moving the PVE trophies to make the galaxy change....

if only, the "PVE tokens" are in the form of repetitive actions of "bring X to Y ", or kill X npcs. The problem is there is no PVP content at all, but the PVE content is even worse.
 
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