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Btw I consider it a very unfriendly attitude telling people to leave a community when they are providing feedback.

That part obviously wasn't meat at you.

But consider the possibility that it's like I said and it's not a PvP mechanic.. it's just a name on a faction inside a PvE BGS, same as any NPC faction (instead the developers specifically stated when introducing player factions, that all they get is the name and even that has severe restrictions to comply with lore and it will be a regular ingame faction like all the rest.). That pretty much means that it's actually a PvE element of the game, regardless if said faction holds the name of a PvP wing or not.
So again, what you signed up for is to have your wing name in PvE lore.. nothing more.
Pretty much the same can be said about Power Play. It's a conflict between PvE powers with PvE mechanics, with the only difference that when available you get the odd PvP mission (since the game sort of treats players like NPCs and vice-versa in certain things).

This means that even though your station is under attack in that way, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever to your personal Commander. Even if your faction loses influence, even if your station is taken over, you can still access the same station regardless.. have access to all of your stored ships.. and all other station services etc etc..

So the way I see it, you actually 'pledged / signed-up' to a PvE mechanic and now you are getting attacked AS INTENDED in a PvE manner. Since you're 'too lazy? / can't be bothered / etc..' to do PvE as intended.. to defend / fight back the way it was intended, you're here asking for PvP to be forced upon those who actually play this mechanic as it was intended by the developers and physically prevent others from playing... by destroying their ships.
So question: How's this any different than simple raging and trying to 'break things' just because someone is beating you at a game (that you don't even want to play like that..)? Because it's not.. the way I see it it's pretty much the digital equivalent of me petitioning the organizers to host a fist-fighting tournament afterwards, just because some geeky dudes beat me at their science tournament! and... I could show them the error of their ways! ha! :)
You get it now? I'm all for PvP, but in a nice and civilized way.. so your feedback and suggestions should be about implementing new ways that are MEANT for pvp from the ground up and not just wanting to take over existing things at the expense of major consequences to other players.

At the end of the day, like Robert said in the beginning.. we're talking about a very small minority of PvP players who want to 'attack' the concept of free groups that FD implemented at the beginning and a very large majority (which coincidentally includes the FD staff) who want to keep it that way.. so you don't even have a snowball's chance in hell if you approach it from this angle. Make a legit suggestion that helps PvP WITHOUT harming everyone else and I think lots of people will back that..

Cheers!
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
You campaign to have the gawdawful UA bombing mechanism removed from the game. Give me a picket sign and I'll join you.

Hello no! UA bombing has to go!

Its not just that, sending a faction towards lockdown, retreat state, undermine a PP power. Are you going to petition against this as well?

Someone is trolling your PF and there is nothing you can do to retaliate. Yes it can be a tag of war with pve tokens but all you are doing is countering someones attack. You cannot retaliate, you cannot go hunting them down, this is insane, I dont understand who is desperate enough to get into this sick gameplay.

Blocking has no place when direct and indirect PvP is allowed within the game. It has to go together with PG/Solo influence of thr BGS/PP. The only thing it should do is block comms.
 
Its not just that, sending a faction towards lockdown, retreat state, undermine a PP power. Are you going to petition against this as well?

Someone is trolling your PF and there is nothing you can do to retaliate. Yes it can be a tag of war with pve tokens but all you are doing is countering someones attack. You cannot retaliate, you cannot go hunting them down, this is insane, I dont understand who is desperate enough to get into this sick gameplay.

Blocking has no place when direct and indirect PvP is allowed within the game. It has to go together with PG/Solo influence of thr BGS/PP. The only thing it should do is block comms.

Sure you can. Find their home system and obliterate system ships until their faction is in lockdown. force them into wars so they have to redirect resources to a) keep their stations and b) not get kicked out of systems.

PvP IS NOT YOUR ONLY OPTION.
 
Its not just that, sending a faction towards lockdown, retreat state, undermine a PP power. Are you going to petition against this as well?
Nope. They have different effects you know.

Someone is trolling your PF and there is nothing you can do to retaliate. Yes it can be a tag of war with pve tokens but all you are doing is countering someones attack. You cannot retaliate, you cannot go hunting them down, this is insane, I dont understand who is desperate enough to get into this sick gameplay.
You can indeed counter an attack. And I think a SysNet which reports who is causing the influence change would be a good addition. Then you could retaliate.

And please, spare me the sick gameplay shtick, it doesn't work coming from someone who gloats about ruining other people's games.

Blocking has no place when direct and indirect PvP is allowed within the game. It has to go together with PG/Solo influence of thr BGS/PP. The only thing it should do is block comms.
That's an opinion which you are welcome to.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Nope. They have different effects you know.


You can indeed counter an attack. And I think a SysNet which reports who is causing the influence change would be a good addition. Then you could retaliate.

And please, spare me the sick gameplay shtick, it doesn't work coming from someone who gloats about ruining other people's games.


That's an opinion which you are welcome to.

There are no reports on who is doing the bgs attack. You only have the top5 bounties. What about if there are 20 of them?

And I never ruined anyone's game btw, everyone in open loves PvP.
 
There are no reports on who is doing the bgs attack. You only have the top5 bounties. What about if there are 20 of them?
I will repeat: "And I think a SysNet which reports who is causing the influence change would be a good addition."

And I never ruined anyone's game btw, everyone in open loves PvP.
I will repeat: "it doesn't work coming from someone who gloats". I will end the quote there not to confuse you again :)
 
And I never ruined anyone's game btw, everyone in open loves PvP.

Really, because THIS YT channel has videos showing that's an out right fabrication.

Plus the forums, Reddit, Facebook communities, various PG communities.....

You may want to chill with the company cool aid, it's getting to you ;)
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Really, because THIS YT channel has videos showing that's an out right fabrication.

Plus the forums, Reddit, Facebook communities, various PG communities.....

You may want to chill with the company cool aid, it's getting to you ;)

Wait a sec. How did I ruin anyone's game, I still dont follow, they were in open, they knew it is open PvP mode, so what game did I ruin?
They went there because they dont mind to participate in PvP.

Facebook reddit and PG communities... What did I ever do to FB or reddit?

I will repeat: "And I think a SysNet which reports who is causing the influence change would be a good addition."


I will repeat: "it doesn't work coming from someone who gloats". I will end the quote there not to confuse you again :)

Can you explain what is sysnet? And does it give out individual cmdr names which mess with the local faction?
 
Hello Commander Shinku Rei!
Notoriety should decay during game play time regardless of which game mode you are in. If you find that Notoriety does not decay even though you are playing the game, please submit a ticket.

Welp. Looks like I was wrong.
Too bad would have been a great source of income for bounty hunters.

The filthy PG/solo murderers are yet safe again.
Even the open griefers get the option to have a productive time farming materials, upgrading their grief ships.
 
Wait a sec. How did I ruin anyone's game, I still dont follow, they were in open, they knew it is open PvP mode, so what game did I ruin?
They went there because they dont mind to participate in PvP.

Facebook reddit and PG communities... What did I ever do to FB or reddit?

Actually, not everyone who plays open understands that it is thee PvP mode.
Hence why we get the whinging posts all over the place. Only the other day there was yet another one on EDC Facebook.
Which is why I keep saying there should be a great big pop up box when people enter open for the first few times, warning them they can be shot at - and that it is allowed.

Then no one has any excuse.

Welp. Looks like I was wrong.
Too bad would have been a great source of income for bounty hunters.

The filthy PG/solo murderers are yet safe again.
Even the open griefers get the option to have a productive time farming materials, upgrading their grief ships.

+1 for checking, posting Dev info and holding your hand up to being wrong. Not many would do that, so thanks bud.
 
Wait a sec. How did I ruin anyone's game, I still dont follow, they were in open, they knew it is open PvP mode, so what game did I ruin?
They went there because they dont mind to participate in PvP.

Did take a look at your YT.
The Titan Uranus will soon show you the way to the next detention centre.
 
Welp. Looks like I was wrong.
Too bad would have been a great source of income for bounty hunters.

The filthy PG/solo murderers are yet safe again.
Even the open griefers get the option to have a productive time farming materials, upgrading their grief ships.


LOL! FDev will never support PVP the way PVP people want! Time for this group to get mad and leave...or start more griefing fires in the community!

This game is completely predicated on indirect PVP, the movement of PVE trophies by varying people or groups to make for a 'living galaxy'!


Direct PVP is a sideshow that offers no real inputs into the game...other than the secondary changes caused by the need for PVP to grind out PVE trophies for the credits to play their way.
 
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