Rift Judder and FPS discussion thread.

Heavy judder in RES sites - yes or no

  • I am in EU and experience judder in RES sites

    Votes: 22 62.9%

  • I am in EU and experience NO judder in RES sites

    Votes: 6 17.1%

  • I am in US and experience judder in RES sites

    Votes: 6 17.1%

  • I am in US and experience NO judder in RES sites

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .

bonsek

bonsek
Head tracking micro-stutter greatly reduced!

After scouring the Internet i found a fix that greatly reduced the micro-stuttering when moving your head in DK2!
It has to do with core parking in Windows 7. By default my power managment was set to balanced and that decreases performance in 3D games. I switched from "Balanced" to "high performance" and that reduced the stutter by a LOT! I still have some but that might be due to my GTX 750ti not being powerful enough.
I run everything on high, shadows on low, AA on FXAA, bloom and blur to off.

This is where I got the hint an I didn't had to do any changes to the registry, just went to control panel and power managment/advanced options and was able to apply changes.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064768019524230/

I don't know if this works the same for Win 8. My computer has AMD cpu a10-5800k, 8gb ram and GTX750ti and I just ordered GTX970.
I hope this tip will help people that have micro-stutter during head tracking.
 

CMDR Bravo Zulu

C
Clear text and no stuttering or lag - LOW RIG specs

Hello Commanders!


I have been playing and lurking on the boards since Beta 1.0 a couple of months ago. When I first heard about DE, a remake of my favorite game in the 80s, I wish I had found about the kickstarter, I would have been an Alpha backer for sure.

This is my first post on the forum, and I would like to share my experiences with you. My DK2 arrived last Friday, after reading this forum group I had no hesitation in taking the plunge and ordering the DK. After a lot of tinkering, following forum suggestions I have found a fantastic set up, which I now believe can only get better with some fine tuning. Some I am eager to share and get some feedback.


Here is my story:-


When I head about DE I went on line and purchased instantly. I then found the forums and discovered I needed a fairly powerful PC to run it. My PC is a 7 year old Dell Vostro 400, Q6600 processor, 4GB RAM with on board graphics and sound, Win7(64). Pants! ED ran and I got about 12 FPS ... I need a new PC. As a first step, I decided to upgrade GPU to a GTX 750TI as it was backward compatible with old MoBo and forward compatible for future upgrades. I thought £160 was a lot to pay for a graphics card, not played games since 90s! I almost fell over when I saw the cost of a titan.


Fitted card and WOW - over 200FPS with VSYNC disabled. Major step up! Having fun playing ... decided 4K monitor would enhance experience ... then I tried 3D mode in anaglyph with some 3D cinema specs ... again wow (why don't folks talk about that mode much - if you don't have a RIFT it works quite well) ... purchased X52 HOTAS ... wow ... purchase delan clip for head tracking ... purchased EDTracker ... purchased VoiceAttack ... having great fun testing and tuning my experience.


Then I discovered Oculus Rift ...


First experiences were tantalizing but disappointing - judder everywhere and text totally unreadable - figured my rig not up to it ....
Studied the ED and OR forums some more and tried all the different combos - figured my rig not up to it ....


Set core parking to 100% - set Win7 OS to system performance settings (My Computer, Advanced Settings) - a wing and a prayer ...


This evening I decided to give one more try before going out and buying a new rig over the weekend and wow wow wow ....


1. I uninstalled the OR runtime
2. I installed 0.4.4
3. Set resolution via NVidea to custom 1980x1080 for OR in extended mode (monitor 2) - locked at 75hz - all settings low or forced off in game profile
4. Connected RIFT - for quick test I DID NOT CONNECT CAMERA OR SYNCH CABLE - only the OR USB and HDMI (using DVI adaptor) cables
5. Fired up ED and set application parameters to match


I have flown around quite a bit, I am not currently capturing FPS, but I am so excited by the results that I wanted to share with you all immediately. Text is clear to read
and no more mico-judders - really playable with my old clunker. I will upgrade sometime soon but waiting as long as I can ... I cant believe some of the high end machines are having so many problems if I can run it.


IMPORTANT:- One more thought ... Rift seems to track OK without the camera - at least well enough for ED for me - I still have 360 deg views ... maybe the camera or its interface is introducing lag and causing the jitters. Also if camera is only tracking forward and back, I can live with a static head view point - I have a seat belt on after all! In the fixed head position - still rotates fine the FOV is locked ... that also means the the text is not moving - this is probably the biggest factor in establishing the text clarity IMHO and for better focus on other ships, planets etc - everything much sharper. Anyone had similar experience - I am curious if this is repeatable?


So back to 'testing' and tweaking, but with a big grin now I know my investment in time and play experience is going to pay off. If you want more details about my other config settings, I will collect and report back further in this thread.


Happy hunting, trading or exploring CMDRS what ever your bag.


CMDR Bravo Zulu at your service, and looking forward to meeting you in space sometime.
 

CMDR Bravo Zulu

C
Some more testing and its not perfect by a long shot - but so much better .... in station I have to move my head slowly or there is some wobble ... outside station looking much better - I must figure out how to capture FPS in Rift.
 

Caspar

Caspar
Glad you posted this. It's encouraging to hear that you can get results without breaking the bank. Being an inch away from taking the plunge, this kind of informations is invaluable.
 

Thorvald

Thorvald
CMDR Bravo Zulu said:
Some more testing and its not perfect by a long shot - but so much better .... in station I have to move my head slowly or there is some wobble ... outside station looking much better - I must figure out how to capture FPS in Rift.
Click to expand...

Lots of options but I simply installed MSI Afterburner and have it logging FPS to a file and displaying in the graph. Then I have it running on the normal monitor (we are in extended mode remember) so I simply look down at my nose on an angle to see the monitor and fps.

Cheers
Tim
 

Lestenio

L
I fiddle with the settings constantly too. The choice is often between silky smooth or readable text.
i got up early today and had another go and followed some of the advice on the forums

creating a custom resolution of 2560x1440 makes the text readable but the fps starts to suffer.
turning off vsync in the nivida control panel (under 3d setting) brings the game back up to 70-75 fps in the stations.
you will need to set the settings to their lowest.

i was pretty happy with my testing this morning. Readable text and didn't have to deal with moving my head slowly as the fps was fine

Ps. My card is gtx 970
 
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Jericho

Jericho
CMDR Bravo Zulu said:
Hello Commanders!


I have been playing and lurking on the boards since Beta 1.0 a couple of months ago. When I first heard about DE, a remake of my favorite game in the 80s, I wish I had found about the kickstarter, I would have been an Alpha backer for sure.

This is my first post on the forum, and I would like to share my experiences with you. My DK2 arrived last Friday, after reading this forum group I had no hesitation in taking the plunge and ordering the DK. After a lot of tinkering, following forum suggestions I have found a fantastic set up, which I now believe can only get better with some fine tuning. Some I am eager to share and get some feedback.


Here is my story:-


When I head about DE I went on line and purchased instantly. I then found the forums and discovered I needed a fairly powerful PC to run it. My PC is a 7 year old Dell Vostro 400, Q6600 processor, 4GB RAM with on board graphics and sound, Win7(64). Pants! ED ran and I got about 12 FPS ... I need a new PC. As a first step, I decided to upgrade GPU to a GTX 750TI as it was backward compatible with old MoBo and forward compatible for future upgrades. I thought £160 was a lot to pay for a graphics card, not played games since 90s! I almost fell over when I saw the cost of a titan.


Fitted card and WOW - over 200FPS with VSYNC disabled. Major step up! Having fun playing ... decided 4K monitor would enhance experience ... then I tried 3D mode in anaglyph with some 3D cinema specs ... again wow (why don't folks talk about that mode much - if you don't have a RIFT it works quite well) ... purchased X52 HOTAS ... wow ... purchase delan clip for head tracking ... purchased EDTracker ... purchased VoiceAttack ... having great fun testing and tuning my experience.


Then I discovered Oculus Rift ...


First experiences were tantalizing but disappointing - judder everywhere and text totally unreadable - figured my rig not up to it ....
Studied the ED and OR forums some more and tried all the different combos - figured my rig not up to it ....


Set core parking to 100% - set Win7 OS to system performance settings (My Computer, Advanced Settings) - a wing and a prayer ...


This evening I decided to give one more try before going out and buying a new rig over the weekend and wow wow wow ....


1. I uninstalled the OR runtime
2. I installed 0.4.4
3. Set resolution via NVidea to custom 1980x1080 for OR in extended mode (monitor 2) - locked at 75hz - all settings low or forced off in game profile
4. Connected RIFT - for quick test I DID NOT CONNECT CAMERA OR SYNCH CABLE - only the OR USB and HDMI (using DVI adaptor) cables
5. Fired up ED and set application parameters to match


I have flown around quite a bit, I am not currently capturing FPS, but I am so excited by the results that I wanted to share with you all immediately. Text is clear to read
and no more mico-judders - really playable with my old clunker. I will upgrade sometime soon but waiting as long as I can ... I cant believe some of the high end machines are having so many problems if I can run it.


IMPORTANT:- One more thought ... Rift seems to track OK without the camera - at least well enough for ED for me - I still have 360 deg views ... maybe the camera or its interface is introducing lag and causing the jitters. Also if camera is only tracking forward and back, I can live with a static head view point - I have a seat belt on after all! In the fixed head position - still rotates fine the FOV is locked ... that also means the the text is not moving - this is probably the biggest factor in establishing the text clarity IMHO and for better focus on other ships, planets etc - everything much sharper. Anyone had similar experience - I am curious if this is repeatable?


So back to 'testing' and tweaking, but with a big grin now I know my investment in time and play experience is going to pay off. If you want more details about my other config settings, I will collect and report back further in this thread.


Happy hunting, trading or exploring CMDRS what ever your bag.


CMDR Bravo Zulu at your service, and looking forward to meeting you in space sometime.
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Very interesting.
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I tried this and it works pretty well.
Like you said, you can't zoom in by leaning in, but the head unit does track pretty darn well, and the Judder is certainly improved.
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One thing to note though is that the color is washed out without the camera connected. It 'de-colors' (for lack of a better term) like when you have the camera plugged in but are outside of the tracking range.
Not sure if this 'de-coloring' is a setting within the DK2 itself... ?
I have decent enough FPS that I will leave the camera plugged in, but it is definitely something that people with mid-low PC specs should consider trying.
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Cheers,
-Jericho-
 

KospY

KospY
Extended mode - Performance & FPS

Just received my DK2 last day, so far it's really awesome !

However, as the direct mode with DK2 do not work correctly with elite (lot of judder as my refresh rate is locked to 60hz, I'm capped to 37 fps), I use extended mode to play elite.
It seem better, However, I can't check my FPS in game. I tried using fraps or ctrl+F, but I can't see anything in the rift. What can I do ?

Also, my config is : Core i5, 4gb RAM, SSD and R9 290x, is that's enough for the rift ?
Does increasing my memory to 8gb will be interesting to remove judder ?

At last, does the direct mode will be be fixed one day ? For me it's a lot easier to set. Also, some people say that is better for performance ? That true ?
 
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SlackR

Banned
SlackR
Use Playclaw 5... You can move the display to anywhere on the screen so it can easily be positioned to be seen in the rift. I also check cpu and GPU % at the same time... Happy experimenting!
 

Mark D

M
KospY said:
.... Maybe an app showing FPS on the main monitor ?
Click to expand...

I'm using MSI Afterburner / Riva Tuner to display FPS directly in game to the Oculus Rift HMD. You can even change the colour to match the rest of the ships display so as not to break immersion. In Riva Tuner my preview is set to 300 x 300 (top left of the Rift).
 

Lestenio

L
Mark D said:
I'm using MSI Afterburner / Riva Tuner to display FPS directly in game to the Oculus Rift HMD. You can even change the colour to match the rest of the ships display so as not to break immersion. In Riva Tuner my preview is set to 300 x 300 (top left of the Rift).
Click to expand...


Cool. How did you get it to appear? I can only see it on the main monitor
 
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