Roadmap leaked??

I watching the obsidian ant video this morning.. and if anything was calibrated without a doubt differently now. If frontier are also a publisher now of 5 games im pretty much prepared for frontier to not be the frontier that one is looking for anymore.

I've seen it well with some blizzard fanboys who are stuck holding blizzard from how they carried themselves in the past.. its really sad. Just hearing that frontier are now a megapublisher.. i wish them the best but they're not my teddy bear anymore.

If the "brabes" didn't show up for the anniversary stream for elite.. did he even send out a tweet or anything? That's quite symbolic of the current frontier if you ask me.
I do think your concerns have a large degree of merit. I am pretty sure I remember that during the Kickstarter Braben said in a video pitch that "this is the game they wanted to make", whereas on stage at E3 for the Planet Coaster reveal he said "this is the game we wanted to play". Telling words (assuming my memory holds up).
 
I do think your concerns have a large degree of merit. I am pretty sure I remember that during the Kickstarter Braben said in a video pitch that "this is the game they wanted to make", whereas on stage at E3 for the Planet Coaster reveal he said "this is the game we wanted to play". Telling words (assuming my memory holds up).
But don't companies come in to existence to grow? We surely can't expect Frontier to "just make Elite" can we? They'd be bankrupt soon. The ED team has grown hugely, so we can assume it's still a priority, even if we like to moan that it isn't. I don't think they've quite become EA yet...
 
I do think your concerns have a large degree of merit. I am pretty sure I remember that during the Kickstarter Braben said in a video pitch that "this is the game they wanted to make", whereas on stage at E3 for the Planet Coaster reveal he said "this is the game we wanted to play". Telling words (assuming my memory holds up).
Nobody cares about PZ and JWE, they are doomed. :p
 
But don't companies come in to existence to grow? We surely can't expect Frontier to "just make Elite" can we? They'd be bankrupt soon. The ED team has grown hugely, so we can assume it's still a priority, even if we like to moan that it isn't. I don't think they've quite become EA yet...
Exactly. This forum often seems like it wants or expects fdev to have one game, consequences be damned.
 
I was just skimming through the annual report myself for the first time looking for clues, and i just discovered that frontier are actually doing a publishing business.. ie, funding studios and doing the distribution... i somehow had just mistook them for only doing the distribution and marketing. Shrugs at my ship skin money.

At least its a decent developer (the surviving mars people). Yeah they really are going for being activision. More power to em i guess.

Also seems to make sense why they're running lean / skimping on quality internally if they're also doing that.
 
I see that the F1 game is described as a management game. That puts it firmly in the line of Planet Zoo and Planet Coaster, possibly Jurassic Park also, but not ED.

Sounds a bit feeble. It will be a lost opportunity if it doesn't have simulated car racing, designing cars, tracks ... racing them etc. Maybe we should start a suggestions forum for this game already :D
 
But don't companies come in to existence to grow? We surely can't expect Frontier to "just make Elite" can we? They'd be bankrupt soon. The ED team has grown hugely, so we can assume it's still a priority, even if we like to moan that it isn't. I don't think they've quite become EA yet...
Agreed and I have no issues with any of that (see below).

Nobody cares about PZ and JWE, they are doomed. :p
Exactly. This forum often seems like it wants or expects fdev to have one game, consequences be damned.
I've heard that putting all your eggs in one basket is the best plan.
You're completely misrepresenting what I said; I have no problems with Frontier making Planet Coaster, JWE or whatever. It is their money, they fund whatever they wish and I have said that many times.

My point is that Elite Dangerous was the game they wanted to make, Planet Coaster is the game they want to play. Maybe I am guilty of over analysing, but the choice of words was eyebrow raising for me.
 
This (below) alarms me ... you really haven't been paying attention, have you? 🤷‍♂️
..... and i just discovered that frontier are actually doing a publishing business.. ie, funding studios and doing the distribution...
I don't see how you can claim they are skimping .... bugs, yes, but I guess it's a matter of opinion.:confused:
Also seems to make sense why they're running lean / skimping on quality internally if they're also doing that.
 
My point is that Elite Dangerous was the game they wanted to make, Planet Coaster is the game they want to play. Maybe I am guilty of over analysing, but the choice of words was eyebrow raising for me.
Demonstrates only that he writes his speeches by cut/paste from his old speeches with the product name changed and a couple of tweaks to the words.

The funny thing is that he'll have thought " it's not like anyone will notice" :)
 
This (below) alarms me ... you really haven't been paying attention, have you? 🤷‍♂️


I don't see how you can claim they are skimping .... bugs, yes, but I guess it's a matter of opinion.:confused:
Yeah i like turreted weapons all my frontier financial report knowledge has been second hand.

Skimping is a conclusion from the nature of the bugs they leave in. Low priority / cosmetic bugs are in the majority very easy to fix.
 
Is this one of the two games FDev are apparently working on according to the leak?

 
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