But ED will have base building, while SC backers will have been sold land claims and base building ships, and still no base building mechanics. So ED better.
Your move
But ED will have base building, while SC backers will have been sold land claims and base building ships, and still no base building mechanics. So ED better.
Your move
This leaves a big question mark over Atmospheric Planets .... and why it is not feasible to include them also (if this is true)
Never said I was one of them. I’m quietly waiting for SC to collapse in on itself and for Chris Roberts to flee to a non-extradition country with all the kickstarter money.But ED will have base building, while SC backers will have been sold land claims and base building ships, and still no base building mechanics. So ED better.
Your move
Excuse me copy-pasta'ing myself from another thread on a very similar topic, but to answer lightspeeds question about atmospheric planets now having a question mark over them, a reasonably lengthy post I made in another thread covers it.
TL;DR of that quote is "space legs will give us players new stuff to keep us busy for a few years while technologies added to the cobra engine through other games like zoo planet are adapted to do a NMS style procedural ecosystem on all atmospheric planets. Doing the ecosystem/atmospheres first on the other hand would leave us with meh! gameplay, basically being more things to scan, shoot and scoop from various vehicles. I think our galaxy will be covered in atmospheric planets populated with ecosystems and biospheres containing flora and fauna, and I look forward to that, but I do not expect to see that until 2022 at earliest. I explain the reasoning behind those suppositions in the quote, of myself from that other thread, below:
TL;DR of that quote is "space legs will give us players new stuff to keep us busy for a few years while technologies added to the cobra engine through other games like zoo planet are adapted to do a NMS style procedural ecosystem on all atmospheric planets. Doing the ecosystem/atmospheres first on the other hand would leave us with meh! gameplay, basically being more things to scan, shoot and scoop from various vehicles. I think our galaxy will be covered in atmospheric planets populated with ecosystems and biospheres containing flora and fauna, and I look forward to that, but I do not expect to see that until 2022 at earliest. I explain the reasoning behind those suppositions in the quote, of myself from that other thread, below:
Point being that's an entire year without any meaningful upgrades (specifically, PP). I've had enough of those years already.
Yes.
Also, there's very little (if anything) they could sell in the store for atmospheres, unless its grass cutting equipment (but that requires legs !)
Wheras, for legs .... there's all the existing clothing ... and much much more to come I should imagine !
I seriously hope you are wrong, and star citizen does eventually launch and reach its potential. If nothing else, it will keep elite on its toes, as competition enhances the breed. It would also be great to have another game to scratch that space sim itch.
Well, I've learned something today I didn't know before.
Game Play > Turtles > Atmospheric Landings > Turtles > Legs
In that order.
In that order.
Lightspeed - I hadn't thought of the commercialisation aspect of the development plan, but you are probably right, atmospheric worlds will be harder to cash in on...
After scratching my beard for a minute on how to make atmospherics into merchandisable products for the webstore, the best I could come up would be as a network of purchasable DLC's, which would add "training" or "licenses" to your CMDR, so you could have seperate DLC's to buy which would contain "permission" to go into:
After scratching my beard for a minute on how to make atmospherics into merchandisable products for the webstore, the best I could come up would be as a network of purchasable DLC's, which would add "training" or "licenses" to your CMDR, so you could have seperate DLC's to buy which would contain "permission" to go into:
- Gas giants without life forms - presented in game as pilot training
- base bulding opportunities - both players own bases and NPC projects
- new settings for missions, new mission types, for example
- test pilot this new ship into X depth
- blahdeblah pirate gang are hiding out in this gas giant - find them and destroy them
- glumpty faction are rumoured to be conducting some advanced research - investigate
- "As part of our ongoing research we need a brave pilot, in a suitable ship, to carry this probe and launch it at precisely Y depth, followed by another as deep as they dare go, like 99.5% of crush depth kind of deep
- science gameplay
- this would make hull tanking very relevant again - more hull, more depth, more rewarding and challenging gameplay
- Inhabited gas giants - presented in game as further pilot training
- flaura and fauna to interact with - new rare goods and ultra high grade materials
- Ice worlds - presented in game as pilot training
- Scenery
- Terrain for flying / exploring
- base bulding opportunities - both players own bases and NPC projects
- Barren water worlds - presented in game as pilot training
- vistas, safe atmospheric flying playzone
- water mining, scooping up and processing water to transport to sell at stations,
- especially valuable at terraforming economies or planets actively being terraformed
- base bulding opportunities - both players own bases and NPC projects
- water worlds with life - presented in game as pilot training
- submarine flaura and fauna to interact with
- capture animals / harvest plants, to transport to seed new ecosystems in terraforming efforts
- base bulding opportunities - both players own bases and NPC projects
- Terraformable worlds - presented in game as pilot training
- Terraforming gameplay - new equipment, cargoes (see above) and activities
- base bulding opportunities - both players own bases and NPC projects
- Ties into base building mechanics assembling an atmospheric scrubbing plant for example
- Earth like worlds not settled by humans - presented as permits to access those planets
- flaura and fauna to interact with - new rare goods and ultra high grade materials
- capture animals / harvest plants, to transport to seed new ecosystems in terraforming efforts
- Earth Like Worlds that are inhabited - cities, economies, the world is your oyster here, you could add more content than I want to type about in this setting.
Your record appears to be scratched, you went from from gameplay to turtles, to atmospherics, back to turtles and onto legs.... Not a coherent order - Just saying.
Sorry, you're correct....
Turtles > Game Play > Turtles > Atmospheric Landings > Turtles > Legs > Turtles
That's better.
Turtles > Game Play > Turtles > Atmospheric Landings > Turtles > Legs > Turtles
That's better.
Thanks for that, its much more opaque now ;-D
Building and designing a game around microtransations is wrong!
Selling virtual clothes and such,......buy a Barbie doll and dress it up!
Or at least do it properly and sell branded merchandise like PlayStation Home in its hey-day.
Thinking about it Elite Feet and base building make an ideal pair for microtransactions: clothing and furniture....
Frontier: that's fine with me as long as we get atmospheric landings at some point please
LOL, of course not, i never thought that. I just assumed you were also parodying certain SC backers.
I certainly know a few irl. We’ve had some interesting passive-aggressive conversations.
Base building and space legs are two things I dgaf about though space legs would be kind of okay for walking around my ship I guess but I don't really care much about it. What I would prefer is they update the game world to make it more lifelike, more immersive. Give NPC's some personality/life. The elite galaxy is barren and I don't mean theres a lack of vegetation and rivers. Other CMDR's are no replacement for well made NPC's....
The last patch was OK for beginners, and the couple of QoL improvements for the rest of us were OK.
Addressing things like PP, Frontier need another Beyond to flesh out existing game play. I can't see PP being improved before 2020 - which is unfortunate because there's a lot of potential there... it's another rather flat feature that is largely meaningless. No Meat.
Hmmm, yet another one of those self satisfying "I bet you start smoking again" comments.