SAMSUNG HAS CHANGED THE GAME!
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Granted, I may need to wait for a 3080Ti video card...
5120*1440 240Hz VA panel with a 1000R curve.
I like VA panels a lot, but I am not at all convinced they are suitable for 240Hz without distracting levels of overshoot artifacts, yet. Even the fastest VA panels and a the best tuned overdrive modes I've seen or heard of at 1440p have practical G2G transitions averaging about 6-7ms...you'd need ~4ms for a convincing 240Hz without appreciable ghosting.
I'm also not keen on a 1000R curve for a 49" display...sitting more than a meter from the scree would cause the curve to work against you. No doubt it would be pretty immersive for a cockpit setup, but as a general purpose display it seems like it would be very difficult to use.
Interesting display none the less and I'm sure it's got it's niche.
I like VA panels a lot, but I am not at all convinced they are suitable for 240Hz without distracting levels of overshoot artifacts, yet. Even the fastest VA panels and a the best tuned overdrive modes I've seen or heard of at 1440p have practical G2G transitions averaging about 6-7ms...you'd need ~4ms for a convincing 240Hz without appreciable ghosting.
I'm also not keen on a 1000R curve for a 49" display...sitting more than a meter from the scree would cause the curve to work against you. No doubt it would be pretty immersive for a cockpit setup, but as a general purpose display it seems like it would be very difficult to use.
Interesting display none the less and I'm sure it's got it's niche.
If the 38" LG was any guide, this will also likely sell out quickly and be hard to find in stock shortly after release, if not before as it's currently available to pre-order.
I'm thinking about this for when the next gen Nvidia cards become available. Probably late this year or early next year.
Let's see if any competition develops in this space, but this looks like a pretty tough act to follow. I held off on pulling the trigger on the 38" LG because of the lack of full HDR. I'm not spending $1700 on something that doesn't have high resolution, G-Sync at high refresh, and full HDR included. This is clearly a breakthrough in this space. I'd also be torn if the same spec do become available in a 38" curved due to the 1600 vertical resolution.
Nice choices to have to decide between.
Totally a first world problem...
I'm thinking about this for when the next gen Nvidia cards become available. Probably late this year or early next year.
Let's see if any competition develops in this space, but this looks like a pretty tough act to follow. I held off on pulling the trigger on the 38" LG because of the lack of full HDR. I'm not spending $1700 on something that doesn't have high resolution, G-Sync at high refresh, and full HDR included. This is clearly a breakthrough in this space. I'd also be torn if the same spec do become available in a 38" curved due to the 1600 vertical resolution.
Nice choices to have to decide between.
Totally a first world problem...
It looks so desperately impractical for anything but gaming right against it so curve actually envelopes your field of view. Which is probably amazing if you just use your PC for gaming. Just using this day to day....my neck and eyes feel sore just thinking about it.
Likely about $1700
From the video available it doesn't look like that will be a problem, but hands on reviews will likely address that soon. I've used both the 34" and 38" Dell monitors and although not as extreme of a radius, after a short time you don't even see any curve in normal use. It will be interesting it this appears to be an issue, but I don't think it will be. At 1 meter distance it's supposed to be the proper radius for un-distorted view.
..provided apps and games will support this.
From what I see, the monitor curve isn't circular but parabolic, which means that an unoptimized app will always look distorted, unless the monitor itself rectifies this with some internal image correction (which in turn would mean an input lag)
What game?
My problem with these panels are they are just too expensive.
You can buy three 43" 4K TVs (like I did) for LESS and play games like Elite, NMS, Halo, Space Engineers all in Ultra-wide.
Personally I think it's a great experience, and at a much lower price (~$690):
Here's the display I use - it's 4K Smart but I use it in 1080p mode (Look around for a great price - right now Amazon seems to be charging more than other places)
$299 https://amzn.to/38ulqhA
$229 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43...d-tv-with-hdr-roku-tv/6317675.p?skuId=6317675
You can buy three 43" 4K TVs (like I did) for LESS and play games like Elite, NMS, Halo, Space Engineers all in Ultra-wide.
Personally I think it's a great experience, and at a much lower price (~$690):
Here's the display I use - it's 4K Smart but I use it in 1080p mode (Look around for a great price - right now Amazon seems to be charging more than other places)
$299 https://amzn.to/38ulqhA
$229 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43...d-tv-with-hdr-roku-tv/6317675.p?skuId=6317675
It's circular or very nearly so, but looking at the exterior casing rather than the panel itself might give the impression otherwise. Having a curved monitor that didn't provide a circular curve would completely defeat the point in making it curved in the first place, which is to keep the whole panel as close to the same distance from the users eyes as practical.
A big selling point of this display is the refresh rate, VRR capabilities, and lack of bezels in the middle of the image. Anyone looking at something like this would almost certainly have already ruled out using multiple cheap 60Hz panels.
It's the other way around. It's the back casing that looks circular and the display that looks parabolic.
I know it's nonesense, of course. Why would Samsung build it that way if they wanted a 1m focal length.
But it damn sure LOOKS that way I can't help it.
I've been carefully researching the options for replacing my 15 year old 1080p 60Hz VA panel. Personally I came to the conclusion that the whole concept of a 'gaming monitor' makes no sense any more in 2020, very specific niche cases notwithstanding. I ultimately went with a LG 48CX; 4k, 120Hz, 48", perfect HDR due to OLED, officially G-sync compatible + Freesync Premium Pro, 4xHDMI2.1 with 4:2:0 support for 120@4k under HDMI 2.0. And its even about the same price as the G9 despite a vastly superior picture quality.
I have no clue why anyone would pay >$1500 for a high refresh rate screen with a VA panel. The motion blurring already pretty much ruined screens like the ROG Swift PG43UQ which ran at 'only' 120Hz. Not even FALD will get a true HDR experience regardless of brightness levels; who cares if it is 'HDR 1000' if you get blooming, false blacks and raised gamma on parts of the srceen. :/
The G9 would have been awesome 2-3 years ago. Now it already seems mostly obsolete.
I have no clue why anyone would pay >$1500 for a high refresh rate screen with a VA panel. The motion blurring already pretty much ruined screens like the ROG Swift PG43UQ which ran at 'only' 120Hz. Not even FALD will get a true HDR experience regardless of brightness levels; who cares if it is 'HDR 1000' if you get blooming, false blacks and raised gamma on parts of the srceen. :/
The G9 would have been awesome 2-3 years ago. Now it already seems mostly obsolete.
In response to Morbad, I'll concede that if you have $1700 budgeted for a monitor, then this is a good choice.
But if you don't have anything close to that in your budget, you might want to look at the low cost TCL I use - it's as good as my Sony and Samsung, and honestly most people can't afford a PC that can push 4K above 60hz.
Plus, if you haven't tried three screens I highly recommend it - very cool indeed.