I think it was OK ? Remember, no rebuy when you die on ground, they had to make some "death penalty", otherwise it would be weird to die in space and have to pay money or lose the ship, while nothing happen if you die on the ground. Unless it's a CZ, nothing happen if you die there, because space magic.Yeah so just what I expected. Really bad design imo. In best case, when it's not too long of a wait, what does that mean? 10 minutes without any gameplay whatsoever? 15?
Say goodbye to Anarchies
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Though it seems irritating and while I can't actively experience this yet myself, It sounds comparable to GTAO when cops kill you while wanted and your car gets impounded and you have to either go pick it up or call a new car in. Calling in a new car destroys your impounded one and you have to rebuy it at insurance cost
Not exactly the same, similar, but also it doesn't take more than a few mins tops on GTAO.
All things considered, I'd rather they destroy my ship and let me rebuy instantly given that is the precedent set in game for previously comparable situations
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I was just going for some emergent gameplay is all. Anarchists get together, pick a big target near one of our own that’s getting clobbered and trash the place.However perhaps we might postpone the burning given that this has been escalated.The BGS can always be put back together- we just need the means to do so.
Eye for an eye and all that. They wanna flip the system from anarchists (unintentionally or otherwise)? We can send their systems into chaos as well.
I wouldn't want that. It's way easier to die on ground than in space.
I think there was a group of players that attempted to do basically this and spread a bunch of anarchies around Colonia a while back. Sounded cool, and I wonder how it went... I would have participated if I had been playing Elite at the time, but was just one of those times I decided to check out the forums but wasn't really into the game at the moment.
Then make it optional? Idk I have all these billions of credits, they gotta be good for something. Lol
I don't have this kind of money. And someone new will have even less. Imagine Joe, he is a new player, like fresh new, attracted by the lure of Odyssey. He do the tutorial, yadi yada.
Now he is with his brand news sidewinder, 100K creds in his pocket and life is good. He decide to do a mission, take a restore mission. He goes there, and get killed by the scavengers.
Here what's happen already :
-mission failed
-100k fine because of the loss of the power thingie
Now imagine if that poor dude had to pay a rebuy on top of it. He's already being hammered enough. Sure might not have to pay a rebuy for sidewinder, but let's say he have an eagle, and twice the money. That'd hurt.
Also, people would cheese the F out of it. Bring your 0cred t6 or whatever from some CG, and there, death is meaningless because you pay next to nothing in rebuy.
I can't say I honestly believe NEW players will stick around specifically for this interpretation of a fps game if that's what they're looking for. Also, everyone in ED that is still here was once a new player that had to do this without choice when dying, whether they had fines/bounties or not.
You didn't die as often as you do now. It take some time to die in a ship, and you can jump, be faster and boost away.... On the ground you are not very fast, and not faster, you can't boost and can't supercruise away. Also, the time to kill is much lower. And sometimes you may even forget to put your shield.
You'll die. A lot more than in space.
Also it's a discrepancy, you die on the ground, your ship is destroyed ? It's weird. When I die in space, my spaceleg character is unaffected.
We have done this on a few occasions. It can be quite effective, depending on who you're dealing with, but the unplanned variable that is random traffic is not something you can work against and will probably drive you mad if you try.
A long protracted war for the one system we wanted to keep and various retaliatory strikes when we lost it. The faction that our opposition were originally fighting to support has now been retreated all the way back to its home system which it now does not control. A final result of a score draw you could say.
We're taking stock at the moment following the recent balance changes and letting the dust settle from Odyssey before making any serious moves in future.
We're up to up to 6 out of 23933 highest voted issues.
Also the last couple of posts have been increasingly off topic.
Also the last couple of posts have been increasingly off topic.
When I am arrested in real life away from my home, outside of my vehicle, my vehicle still gets towed to my residence if I can pay now or impounded if I can't. Unless it's on private property and the owners don't care. I'm sure if I was engaging in a firefight with the owners my car would be as good as towed.
Given the fact the Arf said they are looking into it, there isn’t much we can do at this point besides:
(a) give more pertinent information regarding the situation - which has been done pages ago
(b) commiserate our misfortunes or
(c) figure out or own stopgap measures
until FDev fixes it.
I dont think they are. Point them out. Anything I say compares a real life situation to the game on topic or another game to the game on topic. Same with others. You don't get to control the flow of the conversation just because you started the thread
Although that definitely sucks, this is yet another hallmark of the lack of activities for and ability to target lawful factions with harmful/ antagonistic effects.
If you make hostile with an asset owning faction, your ability to hurt that faction further is drastically diminished, because hostile rep is nothing more than a glorified punishment state, and the only scenario where being successful at an activity locks you out of it. You can be the best covert operative against a faction and never be detected by their security forces, but somehow they instantly recognise a person with hostile rep... but can't recognise a 10-notoriety wanted criminal.
Of course, FD are semi aware that it's their punishment state, which is why success for lawful factions won't ever result in hostile rep with other lawful factions... as all their activities primarily target anarchy factions:
FD should:
- give us a criminal mission board, accessible even when using anonymity protocols. Where the normal mission board groups by faction, and doing missions help that faction, this should group by faction to exclusively target that faction, with missions offered by anonymous contacts, and reward better based on how bad your rep is ; and
- hostile rep should function the same as being wanted; you are attacked if detected with a scan, and can dock using anonymity protocols.
That way there's actually a place to go to reliably target lawful factions with negative effects, instead of prostrating yourself before the rng gods.
Edit: it should be a very telling story that all positive states are caused by player activity, while negative states, with the exclusion of when they happen to anarchies, are caused mostly by otherwise random events
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Also, 100% this.
Anarchies will be on the outskirts of populated space, as intended.
Moon dog
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Quit being a baby and try being a real astronaut and see we’re this goes u trader swine
Moon dog
Banned
Ya but if u can live with the thought of killing innocents then more power to u personally I just old fashion pirate
Moon dog
Banned
.sounds about like when on ur way to gas station but have to drive thru the ghetto part of town lol