Well, I certainly wasn't attempting to counter, discount nor deny any of what you just said with my post...
Say goodbye to Anarchies
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I was referring to the vast majority of the systems that they own outright. Again, as above... not here to start an argument. Not interested in that at all.
I do appreciate your civil response but you must understand that making such an inaccurate statement will only draw the ire of those affected by the AA (Anarchy Apocalypse).
The more you have, the more you stand to lose. That's the whole point of this thread.
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The comment was made with regards to their number of control systems, not the effects that Odyssey is having on them.
(Oops, thought you were talking about my comment made about a week ago).
Bang-up job, Frontier. Way to design a game.
Well, if per my idea the "Commodities Market" in Anarchies will buy everything, then what's the issue?
I frankly don't know why we're discussing this anyways. We've been throwing good suggestions at Frontier for years (about more than just Anarchy mechanics) and it falls on deaf ears.
Don't worry I didn't take it as argumentative. If you don't have your head in the BGS as much as we do then I imagine you can see a bunch of happy/boom systems and take away that things are going well. The amount of babysitting it needs now compared to pre-Odyssey is pretty nuts though. In horizons we'd be pushing INF in 1-2 systems we wanted to take control of/expand from, maybe fighting one invasion war and occasionally fixing an INF drop. Now we're fighting 5 wars at a time, propping up 5-10 systems to not lose control and aren't even thinking about expansion plans.
On top of what's already been said we've been retreated from two systems, lost control of 4(?) (due to being stretched thin over about 12 simultaneous wars at the time).
We are constantly scrambling increasingly burnt out teams to hold ground. Every day we have people from all over the world running combat zones, pushing INF, dumping data as well as trying to run feetCZs against ourselves due to how damaging it is to own settlements. We're only "doing OK" because we're a very old and large group and had 32 systems before this mess started.
Everyone's hoping a reprieve comes before every single one of our players has burnt to a crisp and quit in disgust... it's already happening, tbh.
(Edit: not having a go at you, I just don't want to take the pressure off this thread or have anyone get the message that things are 'ok')
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I assume you will be fighting for Anarchy minor factions? I can manage Wars for my PMF but need help keeping other systems influences from falling and going into endless wars.
Yeh, always happy to fight for the side that needs it the most. I'm not saying I can spend all my time doing it but I'm looking for one right now to go try my stuff out in and I'd prefer to do that for a cause.
Edit: Sorry, I do mean CZs so if you just need someone to do massacres and so on then that's not my objective right now sorry. That said, I will be happy to do some mission running at some point.
OK, please go to Aequeelg system for a start and fight for the Anarchy faction. I'm interested to know how many CZ settlements you can find there. I'm fighting in space with ships cos am new with unengineered Dominator suit and weapons. I run out of energy and ammo before war ends and am finding it difficult to look for power cells and ammo in midst of heated combat.
I'm headed there now. I just won a couple battles high intensity for Tauros Mercantile. No idea who owns that faction
Thank you, you can check out 25 Nu-2 Draconis & Gabjaujavas systems next and see if you get High CZs there. Please let me know how many wars you won/lost in each system so I don't work as hard on Wars this evening and do missions for other systems to prevent warsCool looking planet (just arrived at Hoard Penal Colony to check out the CZs available)
Sadly, only low and medium ground conflicts (really irritates me how rare high intensity are in the game). But I'll do some mediums. Will be fast
Edit: Do you fly your ship there or get dropped by Frontline Solutions?
I fought one battle. We were victorious
I need to go to bed now but I'll do some more tomorrow, maybe spread it around to the other locations a bit.I recorded it and thought you might like to see someone fighting the good fight for your guys so I've uploaded it on Youtube. This is a raw cut (no editing, just uploaded it exactly as it was after I'd finished) and it's unlisted; just for anyone who has the link here really but share it if you know anyone else wants to watch your guys smash the enemy into the dirt.
The part right at the very end cracked me up
Worth watching through just for that.Thank you, you can check out 25 Nu-2 Draconis & Gabjaujavas systems next and see if you get High CZs there. Please let me know how many wars you won/lost in each system so I don't work as hard on Wars this evening and do missions for other systems to prevent wars
I'll have a look tomorrow. It's just 1-0 for now (Crellin's Analytics).
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Wow, impressive and thanks
Is Capturing Echo similar to defeating Spec Ops wings in EDH CZ where you can earn more credits and gain more Influence? I don't remember seeing green and red dots on NPCs when I tried settlement CZ - how do you turn them on and your environment is lot brighter than the one I experienced. I couldn't see a thing and had to switch on head torch which consumed my suit's power.
Also cool to see you jump and float in the air to take shots - very good
Is Capturing Echo similar to defeating Spec Ops wings in EDH CZ where you can earn more credits and gain more Influence? I don't remember seeing green and red dots on NPCs when I tried settlement CZ - how do you turn them on and your environment is lot brighter than the one I experienced. I couldn't see a thing and had to switch on head torch which consumed my suit's power.
Also cool to see you jump and float in the air to take shots - very good
Capturing points reduce the amount of reinforcement the opposition can receive, so unlike ship CZs they're kinda critical to winning the fight. I mean, if the other side can't kill anyone, it's no problem; you could win a cz as the last person alive (that sounds like a challenge...).Wow, impressive and thanks
Is Capturing Echo similar to defeating Spec Ops wings in EDH CZ where you can earn more credits and gain more Influence? I don't remember seeing green and red dots on NPCs when I tried settlement CZ - how do you turn them on and your environment is lot brighter than the one I experienced. I couldn't see a thing and had to switch on head torch which consumed my suit's power.
Also cool to see you jump and float in the air to take shots - very good
There's no concept of spec ops or other "special targets" in ground warfare right now; it's just a standard CTF setup.
Tangentially, it would be cool if there was a similar way to participate like from frontline solutions, to go into fighters in an arena- style fight.
Appreciate your enthusiasm to help but winning ground CZs hurts more than helps in the long run. The largest cause of influence loss for us is people clearing out our ground settlements for engineering materials and mission completions. The more ground settlements a faction owns, the more vectors for attack exist. Settlement ownership is decided by who won the most battles at that specific settlement, so when the war ends any settlement that had people running CZs will generally go to the faction they were fighting for.
There are no in-game benefits to owning a settlement, only drawbacks. Particularly if those settlements are tourist spots since they're being hit hard for opinion polls. Currently the optimal tactic is to fight space CZs for the anarchy faction and ground CZs against them. Our method is to get a good lead in a war and then dedicate one tick to attacking ourselves on foot to dump as many settlements as possible. It seems to be working as the systems we've dumped ground assets haven't slipped back into war.
There are no in-game benefits to owning a settlement, only drawbacks. Particularly if those settlements are tourist spots since they're being hit hard for opinion polls. Currently the optimal tactic is to fight space CZs for the anarchy faction and ground CZs against them. Our method is to get a good lead in a war and then dedicate one tick to attacking ourselves on foot to dump as many settlements as possible. It seems to be working as the systems we've dumped ground assets haven't slipped back into war.
Some updates today:
Have to see if that does the trick.
You can ignore capture points after your side has a decent lead (if they're all AI definitely).Wow, impressive and thanks
Is Capturing Echo similar to defeating Spec Ops wings in EDH CZ where you can earn more credits and gain more Influence? I don't remember seeing green and red dots on NPCs when I tried settlement CZ - how do you turn them on and your environment is lot brighter than the one I experienced. I couldn't see a thing and had to switch on head torch which consumed my suit's power.
Also cool to see you jump and float in the air to take shots - very good
Seeing as this is apparently only going to harm your efforts in the long run, based on the above post, I'll leave it for now though.
I hope fdev can solve this issue. Fighting ground CZs is fun. Space CZs, not so much.
See, FD said there were going to be benefits. I'm yet to see any though.
- Missions are virtually identical
- Trade opportunities are identical
- ... less services than anywhere else?
The only thing which I thought might be of benefit is that the mission board would instead generate all missions for one faction, which should normally generate 20-30 missions, but I've found I'm getting no more than what would normally be available in any other full station :/
Maybe they could offer double->triple engineering material rewards as a bonus (actually; that would be good; it would direct activity to the missions and supporting the faction, rather than just raiding it for the same materials)
EDIT: My god, I'm asking for more ways to support a faction. What is wrong with me?!?