The only current potential benefit is that it's an avenue towards owning a "station" in a given system, but given that you can't dump cartography data at a settlement even that benefit is effectively limited to "a place to dump cargo for influence if you own nothing else in the system" and "the ability to take missions for your faction if you happen to already be hostile with every single other faction in the system"; the negatives extremely outweigh the positives, as noted.
Say goodbye to Anarchies
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The only current potential benefit is that it's an avenue towards owning a "station" in a given system, but given that you can't dump cartography data at a settlement even that benefit is effectively limited to "a place to dump cargo for influence if you own nothing else in the system" and "the ability to take missions for your faction if you happen to already be hostile with every single other faction in the system"; the negatives extremely outweigh the positives, as noted.
Pre-Odyssey, when you win a war with a minor faction who owned a settlment only, you take control of that settlement. Has this changed with EDO where winning space CZ doesn't give you control of settlement - I think not?
If we don't win wars, we shall not only lose a settlement but our Influence goes down as well. We have already been forced to retreat from 3 systems because we lost wars - is it a lost cause for Anarchy minor factions now?
What does this mean - killing Wanted NPCs will not affect Anarch minor factions?
Yeah I'm not convinced it is going to help anarchies. It's just shuffling the papers again.
It means (presumably) scavengers and other wanted NPCs who rock up with a bounty on their head will belong to a generic "pirate" faction which means their deaths won't count against an anarchy faction.
Doesn't address people farming anarchy controlled settlements because they don't get bounties at them.
The baddies in a scenario will be generic 'pirates' rather than from a specific faction.
Yes, but only for Odyssey settlements, Horizons ground installations work the same way they always have:
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- Balanced more faction simulation consequences to have less extreme effects on faction Economy & Security and the overall rate of change for a star system.
I hate to be a negative nelly on patch day, but this seems more like a remedy than it is a cure.
and it is also not clear whether it lists one balancing (of economy and security effects and by that the overall change for a system) or two (of the former and the overall rate of change seperately)
The patch is a start if they don't introduce some new bugs alongside it. It still leaves us empty handed regarding recovery. Security is a hot mess and adding countless new settlements just led to endless minor wars that block influence gain, since every other faction is now above 7% due to our losses. Just an example of a popular system:
This sounds like a great opportunity for a pirate-themed CG. You could try it with the recent political aspirations of archon delaine; maybe he starts pumping resources to every Anarchy faction in the game, providing them with a temporary boost to influence.
It reads like FD have made negative effects less effective, which would be a massive mistake if true.
was my first take as well. but it might be that they have reduced both negative and positive effects ("extremes") (which would even be worse imho), plus reduced the maximum influence change in system (probably good, but eventually a problem for controlling factions).
what is defo bad is a patch note that ambiguous.
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I hate to be a negative nelly on the day after patch day, but I have little faith that the fix was more than some reactionary band-aid that will ultimately prove more harmful than good.
Well its just to form that FD see the BGS driven by competitive positive actions only, again. 'Blaze your own trail' means 'select the faction you like and push it'
About this tick - I've mixed feelings. Sure, I've see a lot of difference, but only in a anarchy systems with a civil unrests. In none state still they can counter this (In one of my controlled system even if bounty vouchers value was enough high, still suffers security drop) or I've see slight increase, making them civil liberty state still unreachable.
Anarchies still needs changes, that's for sure. There was a lot of proposal already. We need changes especially about missions (maybe also add new ones) and their effects on BGS.
I think, why any of anarchy factions (except Eurybia Blue Mafia) don't have any of CG, even piracy ones or delivery ones ?
And about anarchy factions, there's a way less from native ones (from non player factions), which even expanded once (or have more than one system controlled) than from similar in lawful ones.
Anarchies still needs changes, that's for sure. There was a lot of proposal already. We need changes especially about missions (maybe also add new ones) and their effects on BGS.
I think, why any of anarchy factions (except Eurybia Blue Mafia) don't have any of CG, even piracy ones or delivery ones ?
And about anarchy factions, there's a way less from native ones (from non player factions), which even expanded once (or have more than one system controlled) than from similar in lawful ones.
A couple reasons:
- Smuggling illegal goods is still broken, and spins a loss on most occasions due to the incorrectly applied stolen debuff
- CGs involving black markets are, according to FD, broken
- No mechanic exists to have counter-bounty hunt CGs where instead you destroy system authorities/civilian ships
- Megaship looting is still broken
So... yeah... shows the priority put on criminal activity...