No, because they'll be inside getting all crazy wreaking sexy havoc.
Scaled reduction of G1 to G5 engineering on weapons, shields and powerplants
- Thread starter Rubbernuke
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No, because they'll be inside getting all crazy wreaking sexy havoc.
Nerf all the weapon and defence engineering. Cut this cancer out orf the game. Keep the crap FSD engineering - i don't mind that so much. Cut the power plant engineering.
Cut all the power creep out and actually deliver with what you sold this sheet DLC to me: as "mild upgrades".
Cut all the power creep out and actually deliver with what you sold this sheet DLC to me: as "mild upgrades".
This. But also please take a look at hull stats and base shields. I don't want all traders pop by one pass of a gimbal frag Mamba.
Can't say if I had anything to do with it. But I suggested a codex, I suggested the cargo meter in the refinery screen, I suggested signal sources should resolved and be identifiable in SC, I said it was ridiculous that the only ships you saw in a system were ones belonging in system factions (OK, that one was more a rant).
Well, I suggested autopilot for supercruise years ago (and got a lot of flack from the forum back in those earlier days because of it) as well as more immersive NPC behavior around stations and rings, and I got both of those things, so wishes do come true on occasion.Can't say if I had anything to do with it. But I suggested a codex, I suggested the cargo meter in the refinery screen, I suggested signal sources should resolved and be identifiable in SC, I said it was ridiculous that the only ships you saw in a system were ones belonging in system factions (OK, that one was more a rant).
Robert Maynard
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Rather than hit powerplants, why not simply increase power consumption of weapons?
You can thank Sandro! During one beta period where shields were being looked at I wrote a direct message to him with a proposal, setting out how the change would fit into the current (then) changes being done. He very kindly wrote back, and said that while having no jitter would be great, he / FD would halve it and see how it went.
As a short lived bonus, I made an FDL with four legacy cytos and found that they shot straight due to a bug
Lets just say they were really nasty....Upping the MJ of modules would be a non-destructive way of doing it certainly. The net effect would be the same in that power would run out sooner.
I think frags need a separate look at them anyway. I don't think there's any medium ship build that wouldn't make a mess of someone, especially if you put screening shell on there.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
... and it wouldn't affect those who use power for things other than weapons.
I'd expect that shield boosters & cell banks might use more power too.
That, or generally limit SCB usage (military slots only)
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Increasing power requirement would affect all ships; restricting SCBs to milslots may just change the shield cell meta ship.
You'd have to sit down and go through everything though, so it would be more labour intensive.
But what I had in my head was that shields, SCBs, boosters, drag drive engines etc were luxuries and not the default. If you have them, then you have to sacrifice something else, or use more exotic modules.
Not if i self destruct first
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
It would - but if it's worth doing it's worth doing properly.
Having read copious advice to fit shields to ships engaged in any role, plus the fact that ships come with a shield fitted as standard, I wouldn't consider shields themselves to be a luxury module. SCBs and boosters, certainly.
Also, noting that MRPs and HRPs cap out at Class 5, there might be a case for reducing the maximum size of SCBs too.
How about making heat mechanics more punishing/rewarding instead? 30+ heat reducing effectiveness of the ship a bit and makes enemy weapons track better? Or under 30 heat reducing radar lock range more than it does now?
Now instead of supercharged pp and guns would come with more tradeoffs
Now instead of supercharged pp and guns would come with more tradeoffs
Very true.
I really want to see a Venn diagram for ships, where having everything means everything is not super good. If you went with no shield, you'd do it because it gave you something else.
So perhaps I'd modify what I said, in that a low power shield is 'normal' but a high power one is a luxury.
I did think about that angle too, but after writing a bit out it got really unfocussed because there are so many threads to this the more you unpick.
Trouble is, even self destruct can't unsee what went on.
Ill shoot my own powerplant and then ill never have to remember it