SEPP - Social Eleu Progressive Party

[Kancro Vantas]

Has anyone logged in yet?? Did the tick happen already? Any changes?? Thanks!

That went well! Thanks to the overwhelming feedback!

So, it has been some 45 hrs without a tick and over 5 days without a significant change in the BGS Influence...

Keep hitting the CZ in ELEU, just in case we don't end losing Finney Dock when the tick comes because only God knows what's gonna happen then.

And speaking of which, can you please check for the tick -if possible for you- during the next 10hrs? wish I had a way to do so from work!!!

Thanks!

/Kancro Out.

 

[Adept Geraden]

Sorry, but can't keep hitting the CZ in ELEU, as the civil war is over. Looks like it was a draw, as no stations appear to have changed hands, according to the system map. And we all know that's always up to date and 100% correct, don't we (NOT).

10 Nov 3301 18:20
Santjalan:
SEPP 84.0
SJO 5.3
SJL 4.3
SJC 3.9
SJP 3.1 Boom

Eleu:
EEC 48.2
SEPP 41.0
COE 5.7
ELP 2.3
EGI 1.8

Mechet:
POM 51.5
SEPP 42.3
NMLP 3.3
MFCO 1.9
RMF 1.0

Alowis:
APDC 49.1
SEPP 36.2
UAC 9.2
COOA 3.2
BOA 2.3

 

[Kancro Vantas]

Sorry, but can't keep hitting the CZ in ELEU, as the civil war is over. Looks like it was a draw, as no stations appear to have changed hands, according to the system map. And we all know that's always up to date and 100% correct, don't we (NOT).

10 Nov 3301 18:20
Santjalan:
SEPP 84.0
SJO 5.3
SJL 4.3
SJC 3.9
SJP 3.1 Boom

Eleu:
EEC 48.2
SEPP 41.0
COE 5.7
ELP 2.3
EGI 1.8

Mechet:
POM 51.5
SEPP 42.3
NMLP 3.3
MFCO 1.9
RMF 1.0

Alowis:
APDC 49.1
SEPP 36.2
UAC 9.2
COOA 3.2
BOA 2.3

Thank you so very much!! I see you also poured the numbers in the tracker. I'll fill in the states and the traffic when I get home.

So, a tick did finally happen. Another inconsequential one, with the exception of the CIVIL WAR state removed and with it the CZ. No station changed hands so far...hmmm...The system map is the most reliable source to get the influence data rather than the left panel. But as things are right now, I wouldn't discard the possibility that the ownership is also screwed up. I will set sail to Bradshaw and to Elder just to verify that they are still in hands of the COE and is not an issue with updating the information into the sysmap.

Either way, it is wrong and I wouldn't be surprised.

God, do I miss 1.2....

Thanks again CMDR! Fly safe! 07

 

[Kancro Vantas]

ok guys, from what I've been reading around and after analysis of the past few ticks:

See Social Eleu Progressive Party Background Simulation And Expansion Master Tracker.

-Influence is now going to be moving in smalls amounts. Not more 10% and 20% variances inter tick fluctuation. This is yet to be confirmed but the data seems to suggest it is so already. 3-5% is the probable range.

-SEPP Position is being weakening in the past few day across all systems. Ever so slightly, but the overall trend is downward. In Mechet we lost all the ground we had gained during the brief time we ran Operation Tidally Locked. In SJL the downspiral was intended and it was to try to prevent BOOM.

-BOOM state is pending for SEPP, across all systems. Any day now, we will be falling into it. All seems to indicate it will happen in SJL, again. Remember, markets will sell low and buy high. Plan accordingly.

-SEPP is the controlling faction for ELEU but is far from being the most popular, Energy Corporation still is. This is unacceptable and we need to increase numbers there. This is priority.

-As we raise influence in ELEU, chances are that we'll trigger a CW against EEC. Be it if so, and lets kick their butts, but in reality we need to go way higher than 50%, with 70-85% to be ideal. It all depends on what happens first, if the CW in Eleu or the Boom in SJL, as the former would prevent the latter.

After consolidating our position in ELEU, we'll then resume efforts for Mechet. That's not to say that we should only run missions for ELEU. We actually need to keep all other systems in check and run some two to three missions per day as we are already weak in Mechet and Alowis.


TIP to help us track changes: Write down the target station, type of mission you are doing, commodity involved and the date of completion. e.g. Say you have to smuggle slaves into Binnie Market in WATHA.

When you get there, right after delivering, note "11/11/15 - LGL(Binnie Market)/Smuggling/Slaves - results: (note the info that appears right after completing the mission, particularly the effect back home for SEPP).

At a later date, say the weekend, we can all compare notes, on how many missions did we run and also the effect of each one and how it affected the BGS. This research will help us know how many missions and of what kind are better to run moving forward.

To consider: I have been thinking in dividing us in teams to take care of each system, kind of decentralize a bit, so maybe one or two take care of a system instead of everybody trying to cover all. I am just not sure how popular this idea will be, or even if we have enough manpower to adopt it. Also, I rather see raised hands for it than me having to finger point them, if we decide to go that way.

/Kancro out.

 

[Adept Geraden]

I just updated the BGS tracker with the influence values.
Eleu +1.8%
Santjalan +0.3%
Mechet 0.0%
Alowis -1.7%

Plus our state is now Boom. I believe this will prevent triggering of any civil wars. Is this correct ?

My last playtime was spent running missions for us out of Eleu, and against us in Santjalan.
My next playtime (10 hours from now) I will spend in Mechet and Alowis.

 

[Raiko]

No Boom doesn't block Civil War, a war or election will end the Boom early.

 

[Kancro Vantas]

I just updated the BGS tracker with the influence values.
Eleu +1.8%
Santjalan +0.3%
Mechet 0.0%
Alowis -1.7%

Plus our state is now Boom. I believe this will prevent triggering of any civil wars. Is this correct ?

My last playtime was spent running missions for us out of Eleu, and against us in Santjalan.
My next playtime (10 hours from now) I will spend in Mechet and Alowis.

Excellent!! Thank you cmdr!

Just as expected, we are in BOOM now. I imagined this was triggered in SJL but wouldn't be sure. In any case, let's keep the momentum going, and take advantage of it: buy in SEPP stations -prices should be enhanced and you should be able to get goods at a lower price than regularly- and sell to EECO stations or POM in MCT.

I will check the prices tonite -good thing I had recorded them a couple of them ago- to now see clearly what is the hype with the BOOM.

If we ride the wave and go with it, the BOOM will last until December 3rd -or some 21 days more or less. But giving the dire conditions in ELU and MCT, I expect a CW or a War to break well before then.

/Kancro out.

 

[Mango Fizz]

I ran a few missions tonight but mainly I was looking for anything medium at least for SEPP in Eleu. Ran weapons to Finney 12/11/15 and result for Finney was Civil Unrest. As for selecting a system to base from, I'm happy to try and fill any gaps, this session I tried to limit myself between Eleu and Mechet although ended up out at Doajar and lastly Louguala. Sometimes missions for SEPP get a bit scarce so I fill in with heavy trading. (I need a new powerplant for my Python) .

 

[Kancro Vantas]

I don't have exact details here but, please note the following:

-Smuggling stuff back to our own SEPP stations, is not good, specially weapons.

-For some reason, donating money as a charity for or own stations promotes economic bust. Do not do these.

-This is what the economic BOOM is doing: brought down all the prices for exporting commodities, and also brought down all the prices of importing commodities. This is in line with strengthening the economy: we are selling out our products due to an excess i production, while we lower demand and importing goods that will weaken the economy.

For that fact, you want to run from our stations, and sell out to our enemies, or other economies, more so if they are not in boom state. Also, beware that your return trip will probably not be as profitable because our stations are not paying good for imports at this moment.

For instance, Partnership Of Mechet, the ruling faction of both, the outpost and the coriolis station in MCT, is now in BOOM as well. Selling to them is not as profitable now as it was before the BOOM, but it will reduce the extent of the BOOM on the long run as it will keep eating the credit pool that is created for the system's economy while in that state. The faster they eat that credit thru buying our stuff, the fastest the BOOM will go away for them. Not sure if this is good or bad but laying out the facts.

Instead, and as just learned, charity missions requesting for money, issued by PoM in their stations, will also damper their economies as it will promote economic bust contrasting the BOOM on the long run. Smuggling weapons and narcotics to them is also helpful to promote civil unrest, which can also cut the BOOM short.

I ran last night: 9 missions for SEPP-MCT, 5 for SEPP-ELU and 1 for SEPP-SJL. Waiting for today's tick to see how much did they affect. Keep in mind that population is also a factor now, and influence ELU that has 2 billion people, is not like influencing SJL that has 10 MM or AWS that has like a thousand or so people.

I want to see on today's tick how much influence our missions moved yesterday.

Today, I am looking at running a similar number of missions, all for SEPP-ELU though.

 

[Raiko]

Ran weapons to Finney 12/11/15 and result for Finney was Civil Unrest.

The fact that the BGS mission generator generates these missions at all is probably a bug, and so it's perhaps worthwhile taking some screenshots of such a mission plus the "mission complete graph" in order to raise a bug report. I assume that it's the same mixed up logic in the mission generator that creates the "Destroy Authority Ships" missions from SEPP in Eleu against the SEPP authorities in Santjalan.

-For some reason, donating money as a charity for or own stations promotes economic bust. Do not do these.

"For some reason" would be a huge bug again - surprise!

It's quite annoying, because knowingly taking a charity mission that donates money to our enemies, raises our rep with them, but promotes bust (and reduces influence), is technically using an exploit.

On the subject of BGS "exploits", whatever you do, do not fail a mining mission for SEPP (so only take them if you already have the mineral / metal in your hold, or if you're damn sure that you're going to get back in time). From what I've read failed mining missions are probably the "influence nuke" caused by another BGS bug. I seriously doubt that the bug has been fixed.

Don't use the above bug against our enemies as it is definitely broken.

 

[Adept Geraden]

Hi guys,

Last night (my time) I ran a couple of missions, one a smuggle weapons out to somewhere. What a hoot, will have to do more of that. Also did some trading, close to a million in profits worth.
Profit is good. Got a second Clipper that needs a mining fitout, and I'm down to my last 100 million in liquid assets

Now I'm over at Kaushpoos, space truckin' for Obsidian Orbital. Back in a day or two.

 

[Gut Rumble]

Got on for awhile ,gathered some info.
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MECHET :
SEPP 43% Boom
P of M 50% Boom
NMLP 3% Civil War
MFC 1% Civil War
RMF 0% (don't ask me how you can be 0% and still be there lol )
.
ALLOWIS:
SEPP 34% Boom
APD Co 50%
Up All 9%
COA 3%
BOA 2%
.
ELUE:
SEPP 45% Boom
EEC 44%
COE 5%
ELP 2%
EGI 1%
.
S.J.L:
SEPP 85% Boom
SL 4%
SJO 4%
SC 3%
SDP 2%
.
Mechet and Allowis were noted at 19:08 and Elue and SJL at 20:30
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Will try to get on again later but for now.........07

 

[Raiko]

Eek! It's very exciting, a Civil War vs EEC in Eleu would either gain us a station or lose us the system (or change nothing at all thanks to bugs!). Are there any pending states for SEPP/EEC in Eleu?

 

[Artan]

Ok, fine, I will actually fill out that app now...

Ingame: CMDR Artan
Timezone: EST (GMT -5)
Will be on when I have time, depends on work and classes
Playtime: since the Gamma, whenever that was...
Horizions: yes
Ranks: Dangerous, Pioneer, Broker (I think)
Major Power Ranks: Petty Officer, Master
Current ships: DBS, Type-6, Anaconda (fleet is based out of Finney Dock)
Interests: Exploration and some light/medium combat
Exposure: I first found out about the SEPP from Kancro Vantas, I met him during the Lugh War, and we flew in a CSG wing against the feds. After the wing disbanded, I would often talk to him during long exploration trips. During that time, he introduced me to Eleu and the SEPP. From there, I have rebased to the Eleu system and have maintained some presence in the area.
Reason for Joining: Well, it is about time I post this app...
Other Associations: None

 

[Gut Rumble]

Eek! It's very exciting, a Civil War vs EEC in Eleu would either gain us a station or lose us the system (or change nothing at all thanks to bugs!). Are there any pending states for SEPP/EEC in Eleu?

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No pending states in ELUE , and the E.E.C. owns both BAO and TEM stations there , so if we win a war ,do we get both I wonder

 

[Kancro Vantas]

Gut Rumble, they own all the stations that belonged to SEPP and that they swiftly took singlehanded, in just one war: Bao, Tem and Pierce.


We should have seen a Civil War as a pending state yesterday for both, Sepp and EEC. I'm surprised that it didn't happen but it can happen today.

If it doesn't, we'll stop completely any activity in Eleu, to let it linger there for some days. It has to trigger the civil war so we can open the contest for Pierce (I think they will lose the outpost first, then the stations - which means that even when they took them all in one war, that was bugged and I'm almost sure that now is gonna take us one war per station to regain them all back. Next cw with them will tell is which one will it be)

If we stop efforts there today waiting for a CW to be triggered, we focus our efforts to MCT. We need to bring that influence up some 3-4 points to challenge PoM for Crown outpost as well.

 

[Coslany]

Just a quick note to say I just ran a charity mission in 1.5 Beta to SJT (deliver food cartridges for free) and it both increased my rep and resulted in an ECONOMIC BOOM^ influence.

Edit: Just did another charity mission - this time a cash donation. Effect was the REDUCE ECONOMIC BUST.


Also did a multipart mission but that was just a delivery to 3 stations in a triangle shape. No change from doing 3 small deliver message missions really except you don't know them all in advance. Harsh if the last delivery is to Hutton Orbital!

Oh - and I lost my clipper to the 'Shipyard stole my stored ship' bug when try out an ASP Scout :/

Guess it's what Beta is for....

 

[Gut Rumble]

You do know that nothing you do in Beta effects anything at all in the normal game don't you?
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your playing a game you had about 2 weeks ago or so , so anything you do...didn't happen when you join normal game again

 

[Coslany]

You do know that nothing you do in Beta effects anything at all in the normal game don't you?
.
your playing a game you had about 2 weeks ago or so , so anything you do...didn't happen when you join normal game again

I know - I don't want to find out that Charity Missions hurt SEPP in the normal game so I try the new missions in beta.
When it goes live I know which ones will help us and which don't.

Think the hostage missions are broken though - I've seen reports of other BB missions calling for 'surface goods' - I belive rescuing hostages is a 'surface mission'

Oh well - find out for sure in a couple of weeks.

 

[RNS]

hello there

not played for some time have a few ships looking a group to join now there a new update coming i am from england where are u guys from what sort of times/zones do u play in the week ?