Shield Cells OP

[Miimis Maks]

As you could see from my first post, i want harder game pve. From how things are now, it looks like more elite carebear which you mentioned, than dangerous.
Just take a look at video. Is this doesnt look broken to you? It eliminates all risk from gameplay.

 

[bassman]

So, shut up about 'balance' and just play the game, like I'm trying to. If I wanted a stupid MMO that gets nerfed to hell and back every time someone whines I could go play EvE...

Right so every person in this thread who has concerns about this should just lump it to keep you happy.

 

[Julio Montega]

According to that arguments, shields should be removed from the game, too. They are too good an advantage to not bring them to a fight.

If shields actually would impose a bigger signature on your ship,
as of now, i would fly around without shields for pvp purposes,
to fool your sensors.

Heck i would even fly a naked eagle just for styles.

 

[Connor Caple]

Right so every person in this thread who has concerns about this should just lump it to keep you happy.

Yes. That simple enough for you?

If I cared about other people, I'd go play My Little Pony Online. Have you considered that one?

 

[Mephane]

If shields actually would impose a bigger signature on your ship,
as of now, i would fly around without shields for pvp purposes,
to fool your sensors.

Heck i would even fly a naked eagle just for styles.

Shields do indeed increase your heat signature. This is why they are automatically shut off when silent running.

 

[Julio Montega]

Yeah but an eagle without shields with low heat weaponry
and thrusters isn't stealthy, as of the latest stealth changes.

You cannot have a ghost ship,
which sacrifices it's shield for being awesome.
You will still be detected, and being autodetected
in the optimum engagement range for an eagle (below 500 m)
is like hitting yourself with a pinata pole.

So it is back to the old medieval shield.

 

[Evil]

As you could see from my first post, i want harder game pve. From how things are now, it looks like more elite carebear which you mentioned, than dangerous.
Just take a look at video. Is this doesnt look broken to you? It eliminates all risk from gameplay.

So you wanted a harder PvE game, so you called the nurf bat, not the buff missions with more enemies and greater payout bat, theres more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Jordan Cobalt]

Because I don't care about balance. I didn't buy this because it was an MMO. I wanted a single player game like in 1984 and the more people whine about 'balance' (which really is them crying because someone figured a way to beat them up in what they thought was their own OP setup) the more my game gets screwed up.

So, shut up about 'balance' and just play the game, like I'm trying to. If I wanted a stupid MMO that gets nerfed to hell and back every time someone whines I could go play EvE...

So everyone who wants pvp or challenging pve should suffer because you want to cheese your way through a game?

 

[Defacto]

So you wanted a harder PvE game, so you called the nurf bat, not the buff missions with more enemies and greater payout bat, theres more than one way to skin a cat.

Skinning cats suck. I want to play ED instead.

The main problem with shield cells IMO is not that they make PvE engagements too easy, although that also is a problem, and you don't solve that by adding more enemies. You solve it by making shield cells work well in the game, which they don't.

 

[Connor Caple]

So everyone who wants pvp or challenging pve should suffer because you want to cheese your way through a game?

Again, where did I say I care about anyone else's opinion/life/playstyle?

If you think it's too easy, play in a way that makes it harder instead of crying about what other people do. Simple enough for you yet?

 

[Evil]

Skinning cats suck. I want to play ED instead.

The main problem with shield cells IMO is not that they make PvE engagements too easy, although that also is a problem, and you don't solve that by adding more enemies. You solve it by making shield cells work well in the game, which they don't.

Tomato or Tomato, the issue here is you think you know whats best, when the truth be told you dont know whats in the game or whats going to come to the game. The only people that can judge what to do is FD as they have all the facts, end of story sorry.

 

[Vagabond]

Because I don't care about balance. I didn't buy this because it was an MMO. I wanted a single player game like in 1984 and the more people whine about 'balance' (which really is them crying because someone figured a way to beat them up in what they thought was their own OP setup) the more my game gets screwed up.

So, shut up about 'balance' and just play the game, like I'm trying to. If I wanted a stupid MMO that gets nerfed to hell and back every time someone whines I could go play EvE...

That's pretty aggressive.

And it's go nothing to do with competitive online play.

If this were a beat em up and one move killed all, then for the sake of gameplay I would argue for 'Super Mega Death Cocktail Punch Supreme' to be brought into line with the fight moves.

You know, for the sake of the game, so it doesn't just become me using the same attack all the time? Which is what know I would end up doing.

In simple terms, Cell banks make fights dull. Dull fights don't make sense.

 

[Commander M.O.]

I certainly hope Frontier does not give in and start letting the forums DICTATE to them what the game mechanics will be. I have seen the results of that over and over and over and over and over in 20 MMOs. Its always bad and the game you end up with barely resembles the game you bought. Once you start down the slippery slope of game balance dictated to you by a forum your game is OVER because you can NEVER balance a system that is inherently imbalanced. We are ALL OF US DIFFERENT in our skills, our personalities, our psychological make up, our physical abilities... and ALL OF THAT affects how we play the game. You CAN NOT balance this. EVER. This thread is a perfect example of why you keep your game mechanics changes INTERNAL to the development group. You will have people who hate your work and people who love it, you can't change that. But, AT LEAST your mechanics will stay consistent and not change on the winds of the MYSTICAL ALTER of BETTER GAME BALANCE. God, I hope this game doesn't fall down that slippery slope. My advice... Shield Cells are neither OP nor NOT OP. Shield Cells are what ever Frontier intended them to be and Frontier should never gauge the effectiveness of their mechanics by the forums. They should use mathematical data FROM THE GAME to determine what shield cells should be and how. PERIOD.

 

[Connor Caple]

That's pretty aggressive.

Why, thank you, Belle...

... so it doesn't just become me using the same attack all the time? Which is what know I would end up doing.

You want to change MY game because you have no self control. Nope, that won't fly. Next.

 

[stjones]

I certainly hope Frontier does not give in and start letting the forums DICTATE to them what the game mechanics will be. I have seen the results of that over and over and over and over and over in 20 MMOs. Its always bad and the game you end up with barely resembles the game you bought. Once you start down the slippery slope of game balance dictated to you by a forum your game is OVER because you can NEVER balance a system that is inherently imbalanced. We are ALL OF US DIFFERENT in our skills, our personalities, our psychological make up, our physical abilities... and ALL OF THAT affects how we play the game. You CAN NOT balance this. EVER. This thread is a perfect example of why you keep your game mechanics changes INTERNAL to the development group. You will have people who hate your work and people who love it, you can't change that. But, AT LEAST your mechanics will stay consistent and not change on the winds of the MYSTICAL ALTER of BETTER GAME BALANCE. God, I hope this game doesn't fall down that slippery slope. My advice... Shield Cells are neither OP nor NOT OP. Shield Cells are what ever Frontier intended them to be and Frontier should never gauge the effectiveness of their mechanics by the forums. They should use mathematical data FROM THE GAME to determine what shield cells should be and how. PERIOD.

^^ This , and I mean what he says about demands etc. not whether cells are OP or not(which they might be ,but slightly)

 

[ShadowGar]

Right so every person in this thread who has concerns about this should just lump it to keep you happy.

Thats the way it works. Don't you see how many threads are on this forums with concerns and those people are told to go away? Many are asking for things that should have been added to be added and they are told to "lump it". Same seems to be for people that want things remove.

 

[bassman]

I certainly hope Frontier does not give in and start letting the forums DICTATE to them what the game mechanics will be.

FD read the forums and have shown in the past they take the views of players expressed here into account especially when they are considered and well reasoned. What I'm pretty sure they dont take into account is people telling them to ignore other people. But hey if you think that tactic is going to work for you then carry on.

 

[Defacto]

Tomato or Tomato, the issue here is you think you know whats best, when the truth be told you dont know whats in the game or whats going to come to the game. The only people that can judge what to do is FD as they have all the facts, end of story sorry.

So basically, you mean that any argument here is invalid, because only the sky-gods can foretell the future.
Any discussion is stupid too, because the future! And sky gods. End of story?

FD read the forums and have shown in the past they take the views of players expressed here into account especially when they are considered and well reasoned. What I'm pretty sure they dont take into account is people telling them to ignore other people. But hey if you think that tactic is going to work for you then carry on.

Indeed!
Does anyone remember the Fa-Off discussion? (to be fair, FD only did those changes as a test, but still)

 

[Jordan Cobalt]

Again, where did I say I care about anyone else's opinion/life/playstyle?

If you think it's too easy, play in a way that makes it harder instead of crying about what other people do. Simple enough for you yet?

You're right, you don't care about my play style so I'll take a page from your book and not care about yours.

So I'll keep crying or coming up with well reasoned arguments, you know which ever I feel up to.

 

[Commander M.O.]

FD read the forums and have shown in the past they take the views of players expressed here into account especially when they are considered and well reasoned. What I'm pretty sure they dont take into account is people telling them to ignore other people. But hey if you think that tactic is going to work for you then carry on.

You are taking a part of my post out of context.

But hey, if you think that tactic is going to work for you then carry on.