Came on tonite, having paid for and played in the Horizon beta, only to find that the cobramk IV that I purchased and logged out in, is not the ship that I am currently in and am NO where near the area I logged out at. My logout time was around midnight last night and I was in Eravate. Anyone else have this issue?
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Your beta save is completely independent of the main game save. If you are new to the game with Horizons, you will be starting again, otherwise, your pre Horizons save will be where you pick up.
Yup. .
As the other poster says, yes, it is gone.
Correct. The reason they do this is that the beta universe has cheaper ships and modules to make testing of advanced content easier. You start any beta from a "snapshot" of your main save usually taken some weeks before the beta starts (so even if they kept the beta work into live you'd still lose those weeks, probably not the solution you had in mind) or if you don't have a main save yet then your main and beta saves are created simultaneously when you create a new commander. Your main save is completely independent from and unaffected by any gameplay in beta where the prices of gear are deliberately skewed low to push the testing of high-end kit.
That's correct, you are where you left off in the main game as the Beta servers are a completely different set of machines which do not transfer progress back to the main game.
Then I guess buying the upgrade early, buying the cobra in the beta was a real waste of time and money. Thanks for your replies gents. I've just found the first thing about FD that es me off. Can't stand being taken for a ride like this. Yeah, I understand the whole beta crap, this isn't my first rodeo. But what I read and what we wound up with are 2 entirely different things in my opinion.
I'm genuinely sorry you feel like you've been "taken for a ride" - Please don't let it put you off the game. What you actually got was hands-on experience playing, you got to train up your own skills before folks that didnt pay for the beta could and hit the ground running when you shifted back over into the "live" galaxy. Sure, what you did in the beta doesn't carry over and particularly if you were in an early game ship when you started playing the beta and were therefore subject to the early-game grind that can be seriously annoying. In addition you were a vital part of debugging the game before the actual release. The warm fuzzies from that might be less than the reward you were expecting but honestly, this is what betas always were before way too many game companies (game companies in particular, but other areas of the software industry have started doing it too) marketed "early access" products as "beta." Beta is not early access to the live product, it's access to the test environment and frankly, I respect FD for sticking to that rather than dangling the shiny in front of prospective purchasers and calling an early access pass a "beta" to give that frisson of geek-cred. Based on my own experience as a premium beta player.. if FD call something "beta" that's what it is. They are allowing you to play in the test environment. Now, if they offer "gamma" access then THAT carries over to live because that happens on the live servers
Apparently you don't understand the whole beta thing as much as you think. It was clearly stated, more than once (before, during and after the beta) that beta progress does not translate into live game progress. It's like that with almost every game, not just ED. If you're looking for the person that took you for a ride, look no further than the closest mirror.
This is the thing I don't understand with the community of this game. There have been as far as I know no online game which carried over progress from beta to release.
Sometimes I feel like either some ED players live in a parallel universe where the history of video games is totally different or ED is the first video game ever for them and they are clueless about anything from beta participation to how to setup joystic axes to the correct inputs.
Almost none of the complaints made about ED make any sense to me except if at least one of these assumptions is true.
It's happened a couple of times that I know of, but it's extremely rare, and not something generally seen in 'modern' gaming these days. I can't recall the last time I saw mention of a game in recent years that allowed beta progress to roll over into live.
It wasn't a total waste of time and money... I see you submitted a beta bug report (Planetary Delivery Mission: Transport Clothing to Marconi Survey). Cheers for that.
But no, there was never any "progress" to keep. Ships in beta cost a fraction of their proper-game cost, so...
(a) it would be nonsensical (and "pay to win") to allow Beta Access players to buy up Cutters and Anacondas in beta,
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(b) it would mess up testing efforts to have 100% persistence and full price everything in Beta. People wouldn't try stupid stuff, or save-game resets, or buy the niche ships.
So, no. Beta isn't a way to "progress" the main game. It's a test bed. Try stuff out, break stuff, muck around, report issues, give feedback.
That's it.
You can get snarky all you want tucked safely behind your keyboard. I'm not concerned about the progress, I do understand beta, have been in many many many of them over the years. My irritant is in the fact that it was advertised that the ship would be available to us for signing up early and beta testing. When I agree to pay for something based on an advertisement, I expect to get what I paid for. ALL OF IT.
Billexista
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You paid to do what other people are paid to do. Good work for keeping the bugs away from release and supporting company. It is just a testing and bug fixing thing.
Also you have to pay for the ship. It's not free too.
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Kietrax
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And for being an E: D season 1 Commander who pre-ordered Horizons, you do have access to the Cobra MKIV - you just have to go find a station with one and buy it. Pre-ordering as an existing player unlocked the ability to buy this ship, it didn't give you one for free. This has also been discussed many times on the forums, both when the pre-order opened and in the last ~20 hours since Horizons went live ...
They made it clear that the Cobra MKIV would available to users who own both season 1 and season 2... That's it, that's all they said.
Why you feel that that should mean your beta save carries over, or that you needed to buy the beta and not just the pre-order or why you feel they haven't delivered on that promise (you can go and buy the ship from any startport that stocks it, promise has been fulfilled) is beyond me.
The fact you didn't read about what you were buying doesn't mean you've been conned by FD, it means you should probably read about what you are buying in the first place...
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