ship interiors - will they happen

Sorry, still not convinced.
Why should I need to suffer the extra mass of sturdy, while someone else has the same damage in a faster ship?
That would just reintroduce the stupid randomness of engineering V1.0. It took so long to get rid of that crap, let's not start it over again for some stupid RPing reason. I can't believe that RPers cannot possibly find another way to enjoy the game.
Well, that's actually part of what made me think of this. The prospect of randomness is not inherently bad, and can make for some really fun stuff IF you do it right.

Look at looter/shooters, for example. The entire progress of a character can be changed or defined by what rare gun you find early on. This gives what could be a relatively ordinary experience great replayability, because one time you might find, say, a rare shotgun, so you tend to get up close and focus on things like speed and durability, while on another run you might find a rare sniper rifle and so you focus on stuff like range and crits and max single-shot damage.

By offering some degree of randomness here, you can create gentle incentives for players to play in different ways based on what they find!

But it IS important to limit this somewhat, which is why I think we should retain the basic engineering and mostly add the tinkering/experimentals on top of that.
 
What I don't understand is how anyone can miss the obvious.Have you seen any forum posts, YouTube, Reddit, or X asking Frontier for any of the requests on your list? Well, I haven't. On the other hand, the community is only asking for ship interiors. I think it's pretty easy to understand.I repeat: I don't understand people who miss the obvious.
Exploration content:
(even Coolgroove's own wishlist thread above has people asking for more exploration content etc)

planets:

Caves and other game loops:
 
I like many things there. It's just 18 pages total, across 8 threads. If that is any indication of how engaging/desirable all of these features are, then even combined they are not a competition for Ship Interiors.
No doubt ship interiors are one of the most popular ideas for additions to the game. The point is not everyone agrees that interiors would be first choice. 🤷‍♂️
 
Weirdos with a predisposition to argue on internet forums might also have a predisposition to useless RP features like ship interiors.

Yes I see the irony in that statement.
 
I'm sure it was akin to "the majority of the community" as when democracy happens and country is voted for somebody.
Well no, the quote was explicit
Have you seen any forum posts, YouTube, Reddit, or X asking Frontier for any of the requests on your list? Well, I haven't. On the other hand, the community is only asking for ship interiors.
But I agree there's more ship interiors posts than other features.
 
Any time ship interiors come up I try to voice my opposition. That way FD doesn't get the wrong impression that requests for ship interiors are unanimous. There are many in this community (the majority IMO) who either don't care about ship interiors or don't want it prioritized over other things. Not everyone posts on forums and reddit though.
And for that, I honestly must say:
YOU are actively hurting Elite. Whether you know it or not.
Now ofc there will always be an oposition to anything and everything, hell you could invent a cure to death itself and some ppl would likely come shouting against it.
Yet if you actually think "the majority of ppl is against Ship Interiors",
you obviously also still don't know this:
97% of Viewers (Players) Want Ship Interiors
Which is an older poll btw. which was hosted by someone CLEARLY in favor of actual atmo. Planets over Ship Interiors
(ObsidianAnt, the largest content creator of the community by far);
The number will 100% have become even clearer by now as even ObsidianAnt has shifted his stance in favor FOR Ship Interiors.

You are actively hurting Elite with this misguided and obviously unfounded anti-Ship-Interior stance.
How about you go and play EvE-Online. The pilots float in some kind of tanks in those ships so they will 100% never have Ship Interiors there.
Should be paradise for you.
 
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Careful. That 97% poll was actually kind of a loaded question, and put no regards into what consequences working on ship interiors actually might mean. He might as well have asked "do you want free beer?". Sure, who doesn't like free beer.

Also, Ant himself noted that his poll might not really be representative, at best it represents his bubble. 7000 votes isn't nothing, but how many of those votes are still active players? How many active players are there that don't follow ant or don't take part in polls? How many copies of the game were sold?

Statistics, polls and being representative is hard and easy to f... fail up.
 
Careful. That 97% poll was actually kind of a loaded question, and put no regards into what consequences working on ship interiors actually might mean. He might as well have asked "do you want free beer?". Sure, who doesn't like free beer.

You are not wrong, because I fully believe, would he host the poll again:
It would likely be >98% this time. And shouldn't the number be much lower according to some the ppl here which are so clearly against Ship Interiors?
After all, even "free beer" would have oposition from some anti-alcoholics ...
It would be debatable, were it like ~60% or maybe even 70.
But not 97 at 7k votes.
That speaks a clear enough language, ESPECIALLY if we consider the biast of ObsidianAnts audience who was at the time clearly in favor of actual atmo. Planets.
 
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I think quite the opposite. Non-beer drinkers mostly wouldn't bother to answer such a broad, one sided poll, so it isn't exactly a miracle the approval rate is so high. Polls like that are highly questionable and not a good argument I am afraid.
Yeah only that in this case, it should have been the "Non-beer drinkers" who have mostly participated in this poll, as ObsidianAnt has always nurtured an
[actual atmo. Planets] > [Ship Interiors] stance in his community XD
So instead of weakening this poll, it further reinforces its argumentative mass.

I thought you were the one who doesn't even play ED since Odyssey?
Correct, and yet I am here, if EvE had Ship Interiors I MAYBE would have tried it.
And as you say:
Everyone is allowed to comment, everyone is allowed an opinion, whether they do or don't play the game. Like you.
Ofc he is, so am I.
And I merely suggested a game to him he might enjoy more if the mere mention Ship Intierors are such a horrible thought to him.
Same goes for you :)
Ever tried EvE ? (At least EvE isn't a scam like a certain ... other Space-Titel)

Don't be ridiculous.
Don't think I am ...
 
I've been around since launch so I've seen forum/reddit posts on almost every topic. I've seen posts for and against ship interiors. I've also seen FDev's official statements (2021 and 2023) that they have no plans to support ship interiors.

Any time ship interiors come up I try to voice my opposition. That way FD doesn't get the wrong impression that requests for ship interiors are unanimous. There are many in this community (the majority IMO) who either don't care about ship interiors or don't want it prioritized over other things. Not everyone posts on forums and reddit though.
Using fallacies is not an argument, my friend. There is no competition with the number of times ship interiors have been requested, much less with the number of posts on this forum, YouTube, Reddit, and X about ship interiors. "Data kills the story."
 
I agree. The point is different players will have different opinions.

Mutilador was suggesting "the community is only asking for ship interiors" not those other features 🤷‍♂️
I didn't say that, I said that ship interiors are the most requested feature by the community by far compared to all the others you could imagine.
 
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