ship interiors - will they happen

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Kestrel1 said:
Observation of a system (as a user of that system) never has and never will be sufficient to judge how difficult something is to implement. What looks simple to you might be a rats nest of spaghetti code that can't be touched without a ton of refactoring. Sometimes refactoring is such a daunting task that a full rewrite is required. It's literally impossible to know the technical complexity without looking at the code.
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Again, correct.
 

thistle

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Coolgroove said:
Also, out of full timeline of events, I can't find only one thing. Some people sometimes mention something along the lines of "Frontier said they can do nothing good with interiors, and players won't like to waste time walking in and out". But there is nothing like that in any official sources anywhere, and it looks like a long chain of 'Telephone / Chinese whispers' game.

Could anyone point me to an actual source of this claim, please?
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I think you're referring to something Arthur said in a livestream, I believe when they were first demoing a ground mission before the release of Odyssey. I'll see if I can find it, but it is a very real thing that happened.
 

Lukaz_Chrom

Lukaz_Chrom
Dillon Fallon said:
That's your rebuttal? Have you any idea how old that is?
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Quite old, yes.
But obviously, still as important as ever,
and if you claim the opposit, there is 113 pages worth of fuss here alone to prove the contra
so

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Coolgroove

Coolgroove
Reggit said:
Frontier has said NO, in no uncertain terms, multiple times.
No need to speculate...they've told us (Unless you can show us something to the contrary?)
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About 'multiple times'
A history dive into Ship and Station Interiors (pre-Odyssey):

Then around Odyssey launch - ship interiors will not be included at launch (direct quote that indicates they were planned).

Then the last time in Supercruise News #36 (Jun 8, 2021) - "There are no plans for Ship Interiors", in context of Odyssey launch and improvements/fixes at that time. Feature was sacked with Consoles and full VR, because of the problems at the time.

Plans change.

the speculation about 'Yes' is just as valid as speculation about 'No'.

Unless you can show us something to the contrary? Maybe a proof of NO in no uncertain terms?
 

Coolgroove

Coolgroove
thistle said:
I think you're referring to something Arthur said in a livestream, I believe when they were first demoing a ground mission before the release of Odyssey. I'll see if I can find it, but it is a very real thing that happened.
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If you mean this:
That is very different, and unfortunately not about the thing I was asking about. There were only - "There are no plans for Ship Interiors", also no Zero-G space walks - in that stream. Nothing else was said.
 

ꝁestrel

ꝁestrel
thistle said:
I think you're referring to something Arthur said in a livestream, I believe when they were first demoing a ground mission before the release of Odyssey. I'll see if I can find it, but it is a very real thing that happened.
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I was watching this livestream. There was a lot of drama after he said that. Pretty sure that stream is deleted now and can't be found. Honestly to me it felt like an off-the-cuff comment he made that wasn't necessarily FDev's official stance on the issue.

My understanding is the last "official" stance on ship interiors was: we have no plans for it, but if people really want it we will re-evaluate that.
 

ꝁestrel

ꝁestrel
LOL. Answer the question.

Evaluating the game engine's source code is the only way to determine how hard something is to implement.

Do you agree or disagree?
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
Lukaz_Chrom said:
Quite old, yes.
But obviously, still as important as ever,
and if you claim the opposit, there is 113 pages worth of fuss here alone to prove the contra
so

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Before Odyssey
Before Fleet Carriers
Before Beyond
Before Horizons
Before base game launch.

This is what we're going back to? A one liner when the game was still a blank canvas and a bunch of ideas?

Just found my popcorn, do continue.
 

thistle

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Kestrel1 said:
I was watching this livestream. There was a lot of drama after he said that. Pretty sure that stream is deleted now and can't be found. Honestly to me it felt like an off-the-cuff comment he made that wasn't necessarily FDev's official stance on the issue.

My understanding is the last "official" stance on ship interiors was: we have no plans for it, but if people really want it we will re-evaluate that.
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I thimk you're right, but theres also a video from a disgruntled content creator which has clips of the various times Arthur said these things, I think this clip might be the one I was thinking of. And I think maybe the one Coolgroove is referring to.

Source: https://youtu.be/qVqUwkhT4Dc?si=1JGTzovwW7iZBbf_&t=666
 

Lukaz_Chrom

Lukaz_Chrom
Dillon Fallon said:
This is what we're going back to? A one liner when the game was still a blank canvas and a bunch of ideas?
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Yes, because that is called backbone.
To stick to what you say.
ESPECIALLY if potentially MILLIONS of players would care about it :D
(Depending on how you define "playerbase" ofc ;))
 

thistle

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To be clear, that was a complilation by a content creator, but the clip was from the days the CMs would do streams with members of the streaming community and answer questions. In that specific case, an interview with Lave Radio.
 
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