Ships should be reworked in order to give more incentive to players to use something other than the Python or the Anaconda. (No nerfs involved)
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I don't even have an Anaconda. Nor a Python. I've never had. 
I have all the ships, several of each. I never use the Python. It is one of my least favorite ships. Ugh. Such a utility bucket.
I only use the Anaconda for exploration and as a space-taxi. When I'm not needing fast travel or way out in the black, it is relegated to storage. I also regularly explore in a Sidewinder and Courier. It's more enjoyable exploring in the smaller ships. That slow turn in supercruise is the worst, especially after 10,000 systems.
There is no problem with either of these ships ruining anything in the game. At all. I think they are great for people that like a general purpose ship so they don't have to buy multiple ships. But as good as they are, eventually everyone gets sick of them and goes to something else.
I only use the Anaconda for exploration and as a space-taxi. When I'm not needing fast travel or way out in the black, it is relegated to storage. I also regularly explore in a Sidewinder and Courier. It's more enjoyable exploring in the smaller ships. That slow turn in supercruise is the worst, especially after 10,000 systems.
There is no problem with either of these ships ruining anything in the game. At all. I think they are great for people that like a general purpose ship so they don't have to buy multiple ships. But as good as they are, eventually everyone gets sick of them and goes to something else.
Yes, this thread contains a lot of opinions about ships. The whole premise of the thread is an opinon. Its all subjective.
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I think the DBX is the best exploration ship for me - despite it's terrible fuel scooping, so I have a ship with plenty of 'advantages' and one bit that annoys me...
Likewise, I like how the Courier & FDL fly - how nice it would be of the FDL was as fast as the Courier - or the Courier was the flying death machine the FDL is...
With what appears to be a 'Race to the Top 3" being a thing for some, how much 'fun' is being missed by not trying every ship and flying them for a few sessions? About the only ship I've never flown is the Asp Scout... even I have standards
Paradox of Choice....
Basically, the more options you have...plenty of money and a wide variety of ships to choose from...the less satisfied you'll be when you do make a choice.
Then you haven't been paying attention. It's one of the most widely used ships in the game.
No way is the Python one of the best ships in the game, IMO. I find it to be a very....workman-like ship which main advantage is the near exclusive missions for it - the ability to carry 180 tons of cargo to outposts in one trip. And....that's it for me. She's ugly as hell and I wouldn't use one for combat. I tried, with engineering and A-rated modules. Didn't like it, sold her off with no regrets.
I have 2 in my fleet, one for mining and one for outpost trading. I wouldn't use a Python for anything else.
As for the Condy, I've suggested nerfing its magical hull before and I still have the battle scars from that suggestion.
Maybe a good nerf for the Python would then be to change the mission cargo levels themselves so its less of an exact match for the ship- an indirect nerf.
Sure, whatever you say.
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It does seem to be the single most used main, but still l lot of other ships being used, as well. It's certainly not a majority by any means.
Dont touch ships (maybe except Asp S), but add small pad gameplay
The Anaconda is a known outlier. I have nothing to say about that, except that this mere fact does not at all prevent players from using other ships.
I know many who love big ships, including myself, and we do not use the Anaconda more than any of the other big ones.
So in that respect there is no real problem. Nobody feels forced to use the Annie because of her exceptional mass, so it seems to me.
The other ships do not need to be buffed to become like the Annie.
The Python. The mere fact that you call her affordable makes me laugh, because that sure is a sign of the current state of credits in the game. The Python used to be considered a very expensive medium ship, that took me half a year to get, and I could not even afford to A-rate her then. These days it is a ship noobs buy after playing the game for a few days. Sad, very sad, I think.
The Pythons exceptional position is mainly due to the fact that there is no medium pad competition. Why did Lakon build that extremely weird and badly designed T7 in stead of a proper medium hauler? And why did Imperial Gutamaya never design a proper medium pad competitor for the Python?
Nobody knows. I personally think this is very unrealistic. No self respecting ship builder would leave the medium pad, and therefore all serious outpost hauling, completely to the competition.
For years many players have been asking for other medium pad haulers that can compete with the Python. I do consider the Krait to be somewhat of a competitor. It has less cargo capacity, but it is better in combat and great for exploration. And as a basic mission hauler it is on par with the Python.
But I would also love to see a cool imperial medium pad hauler. I would be very happy with some sort of Imperial Python design (comparable to the Gutamaya version of the Eagle), with engine pods and a spoiler. I think an Imperialized version of the Python could easily become the most beautiful medium ship in the game.
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I say lets have small ship gameplay and take an iron bar to the Anaconda and FdL, and tweak missions so they don't fit the Python.
I want it all! With sprinkles and strawberry sauce
Same here.
Although people talk about the Anaconda being great for every role, I think this overlooks the fact that you have to specifically build it for any role. There isn't one build which can do anything (fortunately). And when you do come up with a build, there is often another ship which will beat it in some ways. E.g. for hauling, T9>Anaconda; for combat, Corvette>Anaconda; for exploration, Orca/Asp/etc.>Anaconda. So it's versatile at the design stage, not so much in ordinary use. It's a good ship for someone who can only afford one ship, but it soon makes the credits to lift you out of that category.
When I run metals from HIP 8444 to HIP 8758 I stack missions and use the mission depot system to ensure that I'm always running my Python with a full load. Once I get a stack running changing the mission cargo levels would make zero difference to my ability to run with that full load.
I think the Python is one of the better looking ships in the game, the only thing wrong with it is the default paint job colour.
All true. The inflation has really diminished a lot of the accomplishment from before. I struggled to get to a Python and grudgingly used it because of its utility. Now I could spend an hour mining and have enough for a full A rated Python. Sadly.
There will always be the popular options. Trying to stop that from happening is futile.
Remember, the average person wants a swiss army knife. Not a quality bushcraft knife. Having the Anaconda and Python satisfies the average Cmdr. Nothing wrong with that, there are plenty of other ships for those that aren't into swiss army knives.
That being said, the poor Clipper does need some justification for being Large, and I wouldn't mind seeing the Anaconda's hull weight get corrected.
Remember, the average person wants a swiss army knife. Not a quality bushcraft knife. Having the Anaconda and Python satisfies the average Cmdr. Nothing wrong with that, there are plenty of other ships for those that aren't into swiss army knives.
That being said, the poor Clipper does need some justification for being Large, and I wouldn't mind seeing the Anaconda's hull weight get corrected.
It is certainly widely owned but I have to say that I have seen more Kraits T9s and Cutters being flown by the few players I have encountered lately, my own was flown briefly a month or so back for a brief comparison against my first Corvette. Back before the T9 was reworked I used to use the Anaconda a lot for heavy hauling but not done much hauling with it since than, I did try it as an explorer in the pre FSS era but was disappointed in it for DSSing systems due to its handling in cruise.
I have seen a few more Pythons but again mine is currently parked until I want to go mining again.
I don't own either a Python nor a 'conda, but they feel kinda overrated to me. As in, classic examples of 'jack of all trades, master of none'. You can do just about everything in them adequately or even very well, but for almost any specific task you can get a ship that does the job better. And let's be frank, how many tasks do you really want to be able to do at the same time and how competently can you do it with just 1 ship?
Au contraire.
The Conda is a master of jumprange, and does everything good related to it.
Long range hauler? Conda. Long range explorer? Conda. Distant Ganker? Conda
Also the Python is a master of medium pad missions.
But both aren't alway the best options.
Imho only the Conda needs either a hull weight nerf, or a hull hardness nerf, last option is better for explorers.
Python is ok as it is.
Clipper and T7 could be medium pad ships, but they are useful anyways.
Disclaimer: the above is objectively the truth, and in no way just my personal opinion.