I own the LEP, and backed at the Kickstarter, and don't consider myself part of that "we" group
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Should Frontier continue labouring over Elite Dangerous? Or call it time and work on Elite Dangerous 2?
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Yep, I'm just adding another datapoint for the original "we" groupingMy comment was about Fizzatron, nobody else
I think Frontier should contract out the next Elite Dangerous to Hello Games! They know how to follow through and continually improve a game instead of degrade it over time.
Plus, in spirit, No Man Sky is more Elite than Elite Dangerous ever was.
Plus, in spirit, No Man Sky is more Elite than Elite Dangerous ever was.
Here's where I came to the conclusion Frontier are losing money with the LEP ... it's post #200 in this thread ...
The point we are at now with Odyssey, means Kickstarter LEP holders have broke even, and any benefit due to the LEP now for them, means Frontier are losing money. If there are two more expansions, even the folks who bought the LEP after the Kickstarter will have broken even. Whichever way you look at it, the LEP loses Frontier money.
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Not necessarily. Lepers may have decided that either Horizons (unlikely) or Odyssey (much more likely) were not worth buying, or would be better value in a sale.
In my case ARX has been a bad decision for Frontier, no money for cosmetics since that piece of chicanery.
I don't understand this. LEP holders (Lepers as you called them) don't have to decide if Horizons or Odyssey were worth buying, they get them already having effectively 'bought' them when they paid for the Lifetime Expansion Pass. The only scenario your comment holds true is with 2nd (or more) accounts that don't have an LEP. I have a 2nd account (and technically a 3rd) and I haven't bought Horizons or Odyssey for it as I don't need to, I get that content on my main account.
I think Frontier should contract out the next Elite Dangerous to Hello Games! They know how to follow through and continually improve a game instead of degrade it over time.
Plus, in spirit, No Man Sky is more Elite than Elite Dangerous ever was.
Yea because a company that spent its entire promotion period lying about NMS gameplay features then went radio silent for over a year is a company you want to emulate as much as possible or work with.
No wonder gamers get regularly shafted when they're so willing to forgive, forget and pre-order the next dumpster fire.
This! I too love DRG and throw my money at DLCs. How FDev managed to get into their current predicament is truly awe-inspiring. They’d be worthy of EA’s title had they been larger.
I still believe that FDev have rewritten masses of code in the Odyssey release - that's why there are so many issues in so many places - from lighting to material spawning in mining asteroids, from rendering rocks to performance.
So I think Odyssey IS Elite Dangerous 2
Just release too soon, unfortunately.
So I think Odyssey IS Elite Dangerous 2
Just release too soon, unfortunately.
I do. They DID make ED, ya know. Also, I think going for Elite2 would be far, far better than trying to stretch current code over its limits.
Also, being a propagator of space that actually holds some dangers, it would be far more feasable to be built from scratch than imposed over the current game.
EDIT: So many whiners here, I thought I was the only one to whine but play the game nevertheless.
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In fairness, I'd say Asobo is a much better fit - they already do highly detailed ELWs with full weather, flora and fauna
As for pre-ordering... yeah there's an increasing number of studios that are on my blacklist now (including Frontier) - although Playground Games isn't, and Forza Horizon 5 will be mine on Friday, I very much doubt that will disappoint. Cannot wait
Doesn't your argument depend on the premise that those who got LEPs would have bought the expansions at full price if they didn't have an LEP? Is it not conceivable that Frontier are doing well out of the LEP because those who bought them blind might not have bought the expansion when the time came?
Have those who got free accounts and Horizon free because they bought after it had been rolled into the base game also causing Frontier financial loss? How about those who purchased at a discount to the initial price, have they caused Frontier a financial loss?
Is there anyone playing who hasn't caused Frontier a financial loss by taking free ARX etc.?
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Technically yes, but LEP owners are a drop in the ocean. There's maybe a few thousand LEP owners in the world, and I'd suspect at least half of those have stopped playing so wouldn't be potential customers anyway.
E: D deals in the millions of sales. According to Frontier's own accounts, in January 2019, there were 4.3 million E: D owners, with 3 million base game and 1.3 million Horizons owners. As of April 2020, there were 3.5 million E: D base game players.
Whichever way you look at it, the LEP is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
In fairness, I'd say Asobo is a much better fit - they already do highly detailed ELWs with full weather, flora and fauna
Nice a game where we pick studios who could hypothetically take over development but in reality never will.
Ok, my pick is Activision and one of its studios who are responsible for CoD development. They could really flesh out the pew pew aspect of Odyssey.
Don't worry - there will not be a version 2, buy NMS instead... 8 out of 10 cockroaches said their owners preferred it...
At least the guy you responded to got it right with one thing : frontier have learned to be a game publisher... The quote here is a definition of a game publisher.... FRONTIER is now one and acting accordingly... No more games creating for the love of space or whatever.... What sells and can use our codes with minimum interference? That's all. A new or total revamp of ED wont happen, if that would be the case, powerplay would have been a masterpiece by now, not dropped in decay and odyssey would have been exactly what they advertised, not a 10% incremental of fps per month and hundreds of bugfixes that wont change a bit the gameplay. All of that while waiting for /dance ; /flexnipples cus apparently thats what people want.
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Good shout.
Ha! to be fair I think the cockroaches around here own me.
