For me it's just feeling pushed to do it (poopineering) in order to overcome overly buff NPC that spawn randomly on me and in CZs. I never asked for that.
SO TIRED of trying to find Pharmaceutical Isolators & Military SuperCaps
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Yes, the BGS changes messed up outbreak/PI, and there are things that could use fixes or improvement, but the absolute ease of maxing out other materials for trading works as a great work around/insurance policy against circumstances that make specific materials difficult to reliably acquire on demand.
In a little over 2.5k hours of (unfocused) game play I've done 4k G5 rolls over ~50 ships, probably half of which are max engineered. That isn't even 1 single G5 material an hour, which virtually any aspect of gameplay outside of deep exploration will easily provide. I totally get, when one is first getting into engineering, of wanting it all now, but from my own experiences I can say without doubt if one is willing to take it as it comes (and trade stuff you don't need for stuff you do), engineering can be a great, grind-free addition to your game play.
The first ship I engineered was a Python (before engineering changes), and I spent hours hunting HGE's and grinding (would have been way easier now). I made a decision that I would not do that again. Instead, I just played the game and gathered mats when they were available/convenient until I had an abundance and could go do some engineering on a whim with little to no focused material hunting required. Ever since, it has been a breeze.
In a little over 2.5k hours of (unfocused) game play I've done 4k G5 rolls over ~50 ships, probably half of which are max engineered. That isn't even 1 single G5 material an hour, which virtually any aspect of gameplay outside of deep exploration will easily provide. I totally get, when one is first getting into engineering, of wanting it all now, but from my own experiences I can say without doubt if one is willing to take it as it comes (and trade stuff you don't need for stuff you do), engineering can be a great, grind-free addition to your game play.
The first ship I engineered was a Python (before engineering changes), and I spent hours hunting HGE's and grinding (would have been way easier now). I made a decision that I would not do that again. Instead, I just played the game and gathered mats when they were available/convenient until I had an abundance and could go do some engineering on a whim with little to no focused material hunting required. Ever since, it has been a breeze.
Yes. A state of affairs presuppositional to the OP's concerns and something Frontier should address. There is no shame in admitting that the OP has a valid point, even while sharing other means of gaining G5 mats.
Wrong.
Outbreak functions and occurs exactly the same as it did pre-3.3, and it's frequency is no less or more. Famine is what changed, as this used to function the same as Outbreak but is now instead a state on the economic slider.
Outbreak and Famine used to function the same way, that is:
- Certain actions cause famine or outbreak directly, (e.g skimmer missions caused famine for the target, while outbreak is caused by missions to deliver biowaste); and
- Both had a regular "uptick" occurring behind the scenes to ensure they'd happen as a matter of course across the galaxy. This effect could be countered with a small amount of player effort.
Now, Famine is an economic state, and is reliant on activities which would previously have caused Economic Bust, and must transition through economic states to occur, while Outbreak continues to function as it used to.
When saying the BGS changes messed up outbreak/PI, I meant in the sense you used to be able to filter by outbreak, fly to a system, and have a decent chance of finding PIs. This has not been the case since the BGS changes. I did not understand it in detail as you explained though, and I do appreciate the explanation.
What changes are you talking about? This is still the case...
- You can filter by outbreak
- You can fly to that system
- You can enter relevant USS/State-based POI and get PIs
I have been assuming the multiple states in a system change is what made them (seemingly) way less likely to pop, but in all honesty I have not hunted specific HGE drops in quite some time and am mostly assuming they are difficult to acquire now due to forum complaints.
That could be a thing, but since they're specifically marked, the time-to-decision is quick. But likewise, i don't specifically hunt them, owing to the fact I've never had any issue getting PIs as mission rewards or as salvage from pirates.
That is exactly what is the case. This makes it harder to obtain them. I've done a lot of HGE farming. I shared my experience with it. I think the complaint is a valid one. There are ways to work around it by down trading other common G5 materials or only running a list of the systems that have the most odds of dropping the mats you want. It's saddening that every time someone makes a valid complaint they get pretty much scoffed at by those that don't like farming HGE's and obviously have no clue how much things have changed regarding material drops in HGE's.
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Ignore those who say “Material Trader”, while they can be handy they have always been a cheesy fix for broken mechanics!
In an items description it points to where you can get materials, but in reality it’s like being told you will find grass in the desert!
The in game descriptions should be changed to “find any old crap and trade it” or “use google to find a well known farm spot and trade it”. I admit the original ways of collecting mats could be frustrating but when you finally got MEF to drop from scanning a bases data beacons, it actually felt rewarding.
A bandage for inept gameplay/coding.
Right, it is most certainly not tasks, that are designed repetitive and simple.
Rather an alternate way of getting what you want.
That's a pretty big bandage to cover up "inept coding".
Material Traders looks much more like a very intentional game addition, not a quick bandage fix for a programming 'oops'. Comparing the probable cost/time/effort.
Considering that I managed to pick up 159 random G5 manufactured materials in an hour on Saturday, it's a fairly effective one though.
Another sign you are reading a sychophant or sock-puppet - exaggerated claims.
No exaggeration.