Sounds like you need to add them back on a wee while later once they've forgotten you, and gank them back.
So today I got "assassinated"- is this a game rules violation?
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Pretty cool. I miss such feeling.
I tend to erase characters when I'm not satsified with their death record, or in case of a very shameful event. I like to create good stories for my character - but this time I've had a very peaceful and uneventful career... Quite annoying.
So I did what I could to put myself in danger - my new character was born In LHS 3447 during the last "pacification" community goal earlier this month, lots of players...
I've decided to participate to the asteroid base CG with a keelback...
So far so good, even with nerves.
And I'm too good a soul to be the target of such vendetta.......
I tend to erase characters when I'm not satsified with their death record, or in case of a very shameful event. I like to create good stories for my character - but this time I've had a very peaceful and uneventful career... Quite annoying.
So I did what I could to put myself in danger - my new character was born In LHS 3447 during the last "pacification" community goal earlier this month, lots of players...
I've decided to participate to the asteroid base CG with a keelback...
So far so good, even with nerves.
And I'm too good a soul to be the target of such vendetta.......
Unfortunately, being part of powerplay for 109 weeks means I was already keeping an eye on my friends list because it's a primary means of spying.
In the recent discussions about karma, Sandro has regularly mentioned ship strength as a factor in determining what is and isn't griefing. I wouldn't count on victim blaming being a viable shield for griefers to use going forward.
Well, it wouldn't be the first time Fdev did something wrong.
If i choose to fly in ships that are easy to kill and undefended, i can't then be given the right to call anything that killed me a "griefer". That's just stupid and so is anyone who thinks that's right.
That's a totally different situation to someone just starting the game and unable to afford upgrading their ship/modules or having the skill to deal with the kind of ships more experienced players may have available.
Treating them the same is dumb.
There's your answer... No one likes Belugas, except other Beluga pilots.
Also... no one dies in Elite since we have escape pods. We just get "De-Shipitated".
Nope, not a violation. At least there was interaction and a reason given for the gank!
Sounds like a lame pair of gankers who know the system you went to is a tourism hotspot, and dress up the gank with some fancy words so it doesn't appear to make them gankers; but that's what they are.
did you read the post? i dont think you did.
I would personally still prefer that to a wordless attack.
Except we have some pilots as in a recently posted video to this forum of a sidewinder with a cannon and mine launcher that ran shieldless (cascade mines) and it was chasing off fully armed pvp "gank" ships. So there'd really be nothing from stopping any experienced pilot from just copying a similar build and still turning any of the "starter" ships into space dust before they could really react. Especially if the cannon is modded for heat damage or high yield, say goodbye to internal components.
I'm sure it won't be the only factor. Combat rank has been mentioned as well.
Perhaps most importantly, it's been made clear that there is room for the karma system to be modified and expanded over time if it fails to have the intended effect.
I suspect the same is true of, say, 90% of the killin' that happens in ED.
Get rid of superpowers, factions, CGs, pirates and pretty-much every source of legitimate conflict in the game and I bet it wouldn't make a lot of difference.
Some folks just want to go around raining on everybody's parade.
I'm surprised we haven't yet had some bunch "roleplaying" as a faction opposed to Faulcon DeLacy and using that as an excuse to kill sidewinders.
Nobody needs a real outgame reason to shoot another player in Open-mode Elite beyond "I want to", and from the perspective of the rebuy screen it's irrelevant anyway as to which of the 45 things in Elite could have wiped out your Pretend Spaceman. It doesn't cost any more or less on any given ship because the shooter boiled you for credits, cause or lulz, and that risk of rebuy always exists from many angles in this game quite apart from Death by Real Human Space Murderer. Many pilots lose ships ultimately due to their own lack of situational awareness or planning, regardless of what's written on the toe tag for CoD(estruction of ship), and sometimes you're just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Could have been an NPC wing with weaponry unplanned-for in your defensive arrangement, a TIE Fighter maneuver into a big rock while mining or fighting; maybe you forgot to request docking while trying to land a brand-new T-9 and got shot up by your own hometown in the toaster over a parking violation. You could possibly just be the unluckiest and most-tanned fuel scooper in the galaxy. Your latest PVP encounter went from a 1v1 to a 1v5. The potential for rebuy is always there no matter how good or careful you are, and the level of upset due to a live player causing this on occasion is generally unwarranted. There's plenty of reasons a mantra of the game is "don't fly what you can't afford to rebuy", because the game attempts to provide opportunities to lose things as well as to gain them. The real concern for a CMDR should ultimately be "have I built up enough resources to deal with any potential losses involved in my latest ventures", not "hey that one dood provided me that one loss that one time".
Yes it FEELS bad to be shot down by someone who wanted just to shoot you down, but the morals and ethics of that game-legal action are irrelevant until said action breaks the ground rules set by the game developers, such as PG-mode invasions, repeated and continual targeting of one player, hardware- or code-based attacks or some kind of verbal comms abuse; where we start moving away from Pretend Spaceman acts and into Real Harassment acts which are generally not tolerated in any online game. Being repeatedly targeted is also subject to gameplay situations to some degree, because there are many instances such as faction or PP warfare where live targets of certain parameters or even individual CMDRs are KOS for operational reasons.
This topic as a whole is very situational and it's probably good to look more at what's allowed in the game systems and what the developers are saying about what is currently okay and what may be disallowed in future, rather than how we feel about any given motivation of another player that we're not going to know about/alter 99% of the time anyway.
Could have been an NPC wing with weaponry unplanned-for in your defensive arrangement, a TIE Fighter maneuver into a big rock while mining or fighting; maybe you forgot to request docking while trying to land a brand-new T-9 and got shot up by your own hometown in the toaster over a parking violation. You could possibly just be the unluckiest and most-tanned fuel scooper in the galaxy. Your latest PVP encounter went from a 1v1 to a 1v5. The potential for rebuy is always there no matter how good or careful you are, and the level of upset due to a live player causing this on occasion is generally unwarranted. There's plenty of reasons a mantra of the game is "don't fly what you can't afford to rebuy", because the game attempts to provide opportunities to lose things as well as to gain them. The real concern for a CMDR should ultimately be "have I built up enough resources to deal with any potential losses involved in my latest ventures", not "hey that one dood provided me that one loss that one time".
Yes it FEELS bad to be shot down by someone who wanted just to shoot you down, but the morals and ethics of that game-legal action are irrelevant until said action breaks the ground rules set by the game developers, such as PG-mode invasions, repeated and continual targeting of one player, hardware- or code-based attacks or some kind of verbal comms abuse; where we start moving away from Pretend Spaceman acts and into Real Harassment acts which are generally not tolerated in any online game. Being repeatedly targeted is also subject to gameplay situations to some degree, because there are many instances such as faction or PP warfare where live targets of certain parameters or even individual CMDRs are KOS for operational reasons.
This topic as a whole is very situational and it's probably good to look more at what's allowed in the game systems and what the developers are saying about what is currently okay and what may be disallowed in future, rather than how we feel about any given motivation of another player that we're not going to know about/alter 99% of the time anyway.
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I doubt that, as there is nothing to report. They could have said they were executing him because they didn't like his CMDR name, or that he had a DC, or he make too many stupid posts on the forum (Oh oh). Regardless of their reason, or lack of, killing a CMDR is perfectly valid gameplay, unless it's in a private group with rules against it.
There are player assassins within the game. I have run from them myself but the comms called me out by name. It was a fun dynamic and I seriously tapped into my inner Han Solo to get the hell out of there! Also bear in mind that I was ambushed.
Considering all that I really think you were griefed rather than being a mark.
Considering all that I really think you were griefed rather than being a mark.
That didn't quite get the response you were hoping for me thinksI have killed over 30 players today. I did not communicate with any of them. Just interdict and blew them up. Report me all day i broke no rules.
However that Corvette that combat logged twice was cheating and breaking the rules
I refer you to your avatar Novo Mundus....
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I know you'll say it says Lave.
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How would the client even pay that bounty though? You can't transfer money in Elite. It would take ages to dump and scoop enough cargo, surely?