So today I got "assassinated"- is this a game rules violation?

Well, it wouldn't be the first time Fdev did something wrong.

If i choose to fly in ships that are easy to kill and undefended, i can't then be given the right to call anything that killed me a "griefer". That's just stupid and so is anyone who thinks that's right.

That's a totally different situation to someone just starting the game and unable to afford upgrading their ship/modules or having the skill to deal with the kind of ships more experienced players may have available.

Treating them the same is dumb.

So are you saying it is totally legitimate to gank Beluga pilots because they deserve everything that comes there way for flying a Beluga? What an Interesting Outlook you have.
 
So are you saying it is totally legitimate to gank Beluga pilots because they deserve everything that comes there way for flying a Beluga? What an Interesting Outlook you have.

Beluga pilots should be taking advantage of what their ship is, a giant space .... well you know, just like the Orca. It's guns may be weak but im sure you can turn it into a beefy hull tank.
 
Except we have some pilots as in a recently posted video to this forum of a sidewinder with a cannon and mine launcher that ran shieldless (cascade mines) and it was chasing off fully armed pvp "gank" ships. So there'd really be nothing from stopping any experienced pilot from just copying a similar build and still turning any of the "starter" ships into space dust before they could really react. Especially if the cannon is modded for heat damage or high yield, say goodbye to internal components.
Yeah, I can certainly see a lot of hostile pilots moving to "punch above their weight" small ships for taking on bigger prey.

I am slightly concerned with all this as an escort pilot. Let's say I'm escorting an exploration DBX in my FDL. A player in a rail eagle shows up and looks to be trying to interdict the explorer. Those railguns will destroy the DBX in seconds if I let them into the same instance, so I interdict the Eagle first. I take a karma hit for killing them - clearly the correct answer would have been to risk 200 million in exploration data by letting them hit the DBX first.

(If it is just to protect new commanders in their starter ships, then that's absolutely fine - someone with days of playtime and hundreds of millions in assets shouldn't receive the same protection for choosing to fly a smaller ship today)
 
I doubt that, as there is nothing to report. They could have said they were executing him because they didn't like his CMDR name, or that he had a DC, or he make too many stupid posts on the forum (Oh oh). Regardless of their reason, or lack of, killing a CMDR is perfectly valid gameplay, unless it's in a private group with rules against it.

I think the point here is that a couple of guys decided to gank a Beluga pilot who had little, if any, chance again a couple of pvp combat built ships. I can get the mindset of those that want pvp for testing their piloting skill and ship design against fairly equal ships, but against a Beluga... Nah.

Have the decency to call it what it is... Seal Clubbing.
 
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I think the point here is that a couple of guys decided to gank a Beluga pilot who had little, if any, chance again a couple of pvp combat built ships. I can get the mindset of those that want pvp for testing their piloting skill and ship design against fairly equal ships, but against a Beluga... Nah.

Actually a beluga full of HRM/ MRM and engineered MCs isn't actually terrible, but do look at the OP's response on page one - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...es-violation?p=5740663&viewfull=1#post5740663 - for perhaps some context.

Fly safe. o7
 
This is one of the best thing in open, some assassins made continues efforts and end up dying, made some new friends this way.
On other hand i haven't seen much action this year compared to last, i hope its not dying due to inactivity.
 
I think the point here is that a couple of guys decided to gank a Beluga pilot who had little, if any, chance again a couple of pvp combat built ships. I can get the mindset of those that want pvp for testing their piloting skill and ship design against fairly equal ships, but against a Beluga... Nah.

Have the decency to call it what it is... Seal Clubbing.

Which is still well within the game rules, what the players did was play the game... seal clubbing yes i agree but still a perfectly valid playstyle within the game rules.

Edit i should add i play mainly pve , killed probably a dozen players in 2 years and havent been to the starter system since i left dock a couple of minutes after starting out my elite life.
 
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Actually a beluga full of HRM/ MRM and engineered MCs isn't actually terrible, but do look at the OP's response on page one - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...es-violation?p=5740663&viewfull=1#post5740663 - for perhaps some context.

Fly safe. o7

Fair point, I had missed this post. Did he kill his target while pirating them? He doesn't say. Did he go out of his way to attack weaker ships than his own? Probably. Was he intending to setup fair game play? I don't think so. As pirate rollplaying pilots have said on here, they build their ships specifically for pirating purposes so I'd guess the OP annoyed someone enough to seek retribution. Two wrongs don't make a right though, it just escalates the mindset that this behaviour is okay.

As for saying that this is all allowed in game. Very true, but I'm not convinced that this type of counter-behaviour is what DB intended for his game. It's just reducing it to its lowest common denominator. Seal Clubbing.
 
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As for saying that this is all allowed in game. Very true, but I'm not convinced that this type of counter-behaviour is what DB intended for his game. It's just reducing it to its lowest common denominator. Seal Clubbing.

I'm sure DB wants it this way. Elite's has never been a polite or refined galaxy! This sort of thing is entirely legitimate gameplay.
 
Fair point, I had missed this post. Did he kill his target while pirating them? He doesn't say. Did he go out of his way to attack weaker ships than his own? Probably. Was he intending to setup fair game play? I don't think so. As pirate rollplaying pilots have said on here, they build their ships specifically for pirating purposes so I'd guess the OP annoyed someone enough to seek retribution. Two wrongs don't make a right though, it just escalates the mindset that this behaviour is okay.

As for saying that this is all allowed in game. Very true, but I'm not convinced that this type of counter-behaviour is what DB intended for his game. It's just reducing it to its lowest common denominator. Seal Clubbing.
It's just a game. I don't think there is a reason to take this kind of thing so personally as if you just witnessed two people beating up a guy in front of you in real life.

As for DB's intentions: yeah, he also wanted landable planets to not be "just a set of different height maps" and to not be attacked by snotnosed "teenagers" so it's fair to say his intentions are not written in stone.
 
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oh the huge manatee!
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