This is why so many are angry. Code is saying they are still pirates where their actions say otherwise and then they try to justify it as their way of protesting FDev's idea's.
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So you want to play in Open, eh?
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Sorry, but where do you get that from?
CODE is not the one ranting at FD to "fix" something, they are merely playing the game - in contrast to others.
I don't see them lobbying for en EVEesque experience, in no thread I have seen have they stated that they want Solo or Group mode abolished.
However much this guy makes you feel angry... resist the urge to reply to this baiting thread.... the Mod has protected him from post #2 onwards
I'll continue to call them out for what they are. Just within the rules.
Ian Phillips
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Just as the Mods have protected YOUR right to post.
I'll never see the joy in shooting and interacting with bots (NPCs), without real players around me. I love the feel of excitement, I love that I always need to be on my toes when flying in open. I love that I never know who am I gonna run into, will he be friendly or not. Game is more immersive 'cos of that. That being said I approve code's blockade. I think it brings much needed excitement into this game. As long it's not griefing and ganging up on weaker players who just started playing.
I firmly believe there is, or at least should be, a line between pirating and griefing other players. It saddens me that some of the players find griefing enjoyable and entertaining.
I firmly believe there is, or at least should be, a line between pirating and griefing other players. It saddens me that some of the players find griefing enjoyable and entertaining.
They have started to randomly kill traders in ED and posted they would only stop if FD does what code wants to happen. They tried to ruin this CG using cheap cheats because they were angry at FD for designing this CG.
Code was pretty fun some months back, nowadays they just use griefing as a meta-terrorist technique.
Maybe real pirates should stand up and open a real pirate group.
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Personally, I think if CODE believe that things like the Hutton incident are fine (and as I understand it though not all the blockaders were CODE members) then IMO CODE has failed to achieve it's alleged goals (at least as I understand it) - Pirates behaving with a sense of Honour. There is nothing honourable about deliberately and purposefully ganking players after an over 30minute journey, blockades should be done closer to the entry point(s) of the system if they are to be done at all.
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If CODE do endorse similar or related activities in the future then they will only end up forcing even more players out of Open play based on the reactions I have observed in forum.
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If CODE do endorse similar or related activities in the future then they will only end up forcing even more players out of Open play based on the reactions I have observed in forum.
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The opening post has made some points illustrating why I, and so many others, suck at PvP.
The first is that I, like so many others, have limited time in this game. If I can log in 10 hours a week in E: D, I consider myself lucky.
(This post written on the bus to work on the fly, please excuse any further typos, autocorrection absurdities, and other mistakes.)
The second is that I have no interest in "meta-gaming," which usually involves using broken or badly balanced mechanics. It drags me out if a universe I want to immerse myself in.
The third is that I don't have the L333+ gaming machine and ISP to ensure a good Peer to Peer network. As soon as more than two players enter my instance, I either experience extreme latency issues, or my frame rates tank. The first is caused when I'm not hosting the instance. The second Is Caused when I am hosting the instance. Either way, peer to peer sucks.
The fourth Is That I don't have the ruthlessness nor recklessness required to PvP in a game not dedicated to PvP. I am very much aware that for many players, a single death would wipe out hours of time in the game. I'm in a similar boat.
All in all, the above factors are why once I reached a certain level of wealth in the game, open no longer became fun for me.
The first is that I, like so many others, have limited time in this game. If I can log in 10 hours a week in E: D, I consider myself lucky.
(This post written on the bus to work on the fly, please excuse any further typos, autocorrection absurdities, and other mistakes.)
The second is that I have no interest in "meta-gaming," which usually involves using broken or badly balanced mechanics. It drags me out if a universe I want to immerse myself in.
The third is that I don't have the L333+ gaming machine and ISP to ensure a good Peer to Peer network. As soon as more than two players enter my instance, I either experience extreme latency issues, or my frame rates tank. The first is caused when I'm not hosting the instance. The second Is Caused when I am hosting the instance. Either way, peer to peer sucks.
The fourth Is That I don't have the ruthlessness nor recklessness required to PvP in a game not dedicated to PvP. I am very much aware that for many players, a single death would wipe out hours of time in the game. I'm in a similar boat.
All in all, the above factors are why once I reached a certain level of wealth in the game, open no longer became fun for me.
Then them and other groups that prey on open complain that solo or group are ruining the game. Ignoring the fact that they are killing open in a way.
It's a shame that the best post in this entire topic (IMO of course) doesn't even get a response...
(or my way of saying qft)
No, the mods have given the OP extra preemptive protection which I have not seen anyone else on this forum receive.
To everyone else reading here, has anyone else here started a thread and then got an immediate ‘nobody be nasty to him’ warning from the mods?
You do not 'protect our right to post', you moderate the forum.
Either way this is already turning into another open/group/solo argument.
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While I agree with this, the fact tha gankers and griefers exist in most any pvp game, and that no game has found a workable way to deal with them indicates the issue is maybe a bit bigger then simply blaming Frontier, the gankers and griefers are part of the problem, and if their approach and attitude changed it would go a long way to fix the problem, because those that just attack without reason especially against those that clearly have no chance, aren't going to add something to the game, regardless of other fixes.
It is quite a troublesome issue over most internet games.
For example, you can't just make bounties that much bigger, because at a point people would simply abuse it to give friends easy money, go kill a few players, get killed by other player.
And if you give people other punishments, lets say...they get banned from a system and are hunted a lot more by a police force that quite easily could kill them. Then they would complain about not being able to game the way 'they' want and complain that then the others are being favourites by game developers, and they will likely deny this, though it has been seen repeatedly over many other games, that it should be different with Elite seems almost completely unlikely.
And while I personally don't believe griefers and gankers have a place in any game, most of them don't do that constantly, and can be fairly normal people until the mood strikes.
The best solution I have seen so far is GTA V's solution of matchmaking people according to aggression, and if people are too aggressive they are only matchmade together with similar people.
Nonya
Seems like the blockade of the Hutton Orbital CG has angered a lot of players who thought the CG would be a 1.5 hour "cakewalk" for them and a lot of ideas about how to "fix" such a thing are being floated around, all of which can be subverted and used against the very players who suggest them.
Wrong you did not anger very many people at all, in fact i think your laughable blockade was a joke
Here's one reason why Code was so successful against the CG participants
You think you were such a big success? really?
I could go on and on
I think you will just go on i am afraid
Face facts people, there are not a lot of Code members. Maybe a max of 20 participated in this at a single time for an hour or two in and instance or two, most of the time it was 10-15 in a single instance.
The fact that this tiny infinitesimal number of players were able to pretty much grind the Hutton Orbital CG to a halt
If you are going to try to supply facts then please do so, you did not grind the CG to a halt even in instances that you were in
I mean seriously you had so little impact in this it was untrue, the fact that so many people were flying into hutton meant you would get a few at least or you would have been worse than you are trying to say the rest of the community was. In the one time my wing was caught up the most fantastic pilot from your crew took ages and i mean ages to get my crappy T6 out of supercruise. I would not say the pilot skills were very good at all.
Everyone i know from the community was happy to have something to fight against and worry about as it added to gameplay but in no way are ANY of you superior i can assure you.
Seems like the blockade of the Hutton Orbital CG has angered a lot of players who thought the CG would be a 1.5 hour "cakewalk" for them and a lot of ideas about how to "fix" such a thing are being floated around, all of which can be subverted and used against the very players who suggest them.
Wrong you did not anger very many people at all, in fact i think your laughable blockade was a joke
Here's one reason why Code was so successful against the CG participants
You think you were such a big success? really?
I could go on and on
I think you will just go on i am afraid
Face facts people, there are not a lot of Code members. Maybe a max of 20 participated in this at a single time for an hour or two in and instance or two, most of the time it was 10-15 in a single instance.
The fact that this tiny infinitesimal number of players were able to pretty much grind the Hutton Orbital CG to a halt
If you are going to try to supply facts then please do so, you did not grind the CG to a halt even in instances that you were in
I mean seriously you had so little impact in this it was untrue, the fact that so many people were flying into hutton meant you would get a few at least or you would have been worse than you are trying to say the rest of the community was. In the one time my wing was caught up the most fantastic pilot from your crew took ages and i mean ages to get my crappy T6 out of supercruise. I would not say the pilot skills were very good at all.
Everyone i know from the community was happy to have something to fight against and worry about as it added to gameplay but in no way are ANY of you superior i can assure you.
I think i threw up a little after reading that title.