So you want to play in Open, eh?

nexxo

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I understand that the entire galaxy cant be client / server and needs to be P2P but its a real shame that certain core systems and CG systems couldn't be actual server hosted to allow greater client connection numbers.
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You know, that would actually not be a bad idea. Central server host for the inhabited core systems; P2P for the uninhabited galaxy at large.
 

5thNovember

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Roybe said:
Mobius is a user like you or I..and not a paid employee of FDev. He did set the group up to create a PVE environment for folks. Which makes this, at best a workaround, at worst...the exploitation of a player by the devs. If this is the way PVE is to be handled by the devs, they need to assign a GM to the Mobius group and let Mobius have a new account.
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Gotcha. Unfortunately, I'm starting to think that FD are going to have to bow to pressure here - an open version of Elite: Dangerous (as we have now) and another open version, Elite: (Not so) Dangerous. I'd much rather see FD provide some utility for traders and CG players to better coordinate and prepare, although I'm not really sure it would reduce the whining that goes on. The ED community is the strangest, most touchy scene I have ever witnessed in gaming (and that is saying something given my history - long story)
 

PotatoOverdose

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Man, 35 pages worth of attention in this thread alone. You guys sure are good at not giving them what they want. :rolleyes:


Personally, I found the event hilarious. Not because they killed a bunch of traders - that's easy, anyone can do that. But because there are so many threads whinging here on these forums and on reddit about the hutton event, the "broken" crime mechanics, "unfair" gameplay, "evil" murderers, "morality" in a videogame, etc.

They set out to get attention, and the community here and on reddit gave them several books worth of threads. Props to code - They got exactly what they wanted, and in so doing had the community provided quite the entertaining spectacle.
 
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GluttonyFang

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ianw said:
We know - he said it in the OP - what does that have to do with anything?

:D
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People are taking this thread and interpreting its tone to be the attitude of Code in general, and that is not what this post is for.

Discuss the arguments, not the person making the argument nor the group(s) said individual is associated with.
 

Schmack

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To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't say Code was effective at halting the CG. I think they made it interesting, but only as a side note. That's not a knock on Code, but the reason the CG didn't hit the goal was that it was too far and most players don't have time to do that, and if they do don't want to spend that time staring at supercruise for the ability to do it again for some "mug". I was out there, nary a piece of scrap, just to watch the fireworks. I'm sure there were plenty out there just because Code was out there, so the CG became more of an event because of Code, not less of an event because of Code.

I'd venture a bet that, had Code not gotten involved, it would have fizzled out with a few hard core grinders huffing and puffing away.
 

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Guys, I repeat:
This is not an official Code response to the situation at Hutton, but a member of Code voicing his opinion, stop confusing the two.​


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DWorth

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I have a job, and a wife, and a social life so I don't have the time to learn the loopholes in the mechanics of a game that I play in my free time for a bit of fun and escapism. BUT this is a game where piracy is a legitimate choice of career. I wouldn't dream of flying around even in solo without shields, a tonne of guns bolted to my ship and the means to leg it if it all goes pear shaped.

In short: everyone is wrong! I thank you. :D
 

Herik

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Roybe said:
Although the poll can be dismissed...do not dismiss the possibility of either a PVE only mode...or a removal of PVP from Open.

The PVE/PVP/CQC idea was started by myself. My intent on this was to take a radical stand that no one within the PVE crowd would. It was encouraging to see that many of those complaining against Codes shenanigans felt that this was a misguided idea. Congrats to all for realizing the freedom we have within the game to create 'things'! However, if 'shenanigans' push the game into a place more toxic than FDev wants...do not think changes will not occur 'because these actions are within the rules'. People have to have fun and enjoy there time in the game, so that the game sells more copies and FDev remains profitable....if shenanigans get in the way of that...FDev will be forced to take actions that will stop the shenanigans.

Forewarned is forearmed...or something like that.

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An Open PVE mode would pretty much be the death knell for PVP in the galaxy....I think people just need to play in Open with the expectation that bad things can happen at the hands of others. This is one of the parts of this game that sets it apart from other games.
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Yeah, I'm not liking your thinking on this, but I agree with it;...it would be the death knell for PvP in the galaxy, except for CQC. Also above this, -what you said; I've said the same thing myself...
 
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Schmack

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GluttonyFang said:
People are taking this thread and interpreting its tone to be the attitude of Code in general, and that is not what this post is for.

Discuss the arguments, not the person making the argument nor the group(s) said individual is associated with.
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You need to have some non-disclosure and PR talk with your gang, chief. lol
 

GluttonyFang

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Schmack said:
You need to have some non-disclosure and PR talk with your gang, chief. lol
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The ideal of Code is that members are free, they are free to do anything unless they violate the code. I won't censor my crew member just because they have an unpopular opinion.

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nexxo said:
OK, you need to hire a PR consultant. :p
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I think I handle PR pretty well on my own. This is not a PR thread, this is a thread of a code member exercising his freedom of speech while clearly differentiating his opinion from the standing of the entirety of The Code.
 

Schmack

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Mie1966 said:
Multiplayer is <> PvP but I understand your point.

If there is no option to do PvP free CGs lots of people are not going to participate. I am not sure is this very clever strategy from the developers of this game. I understand that "dangerous" part, but there should not be any problems to implement other different kind of dangerous things to the game without forcing PvP.

But thanks for the info the current version of this game does not give the option for the PvP free community goals.

So I am not going to participate. Maybe later... or never.

edit: I mean in public / group mode
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Life in space would be dangerous by nature, but there should not be 24/7 threat of death. You should have your tranquility as well, with little helpings of chaos to liven it up at times. The game trainer is all about combat and basic ship skills. There's nothing in there about trading or exploring or mining. That's because you can do those without being killed most of the time. I suppose FD expects people to kill each other quite often here, since the oh too real trailer feat Cobra and a few connies are battling it out around a station.

But still... can't we just form a 100 player wing and do synchronized flying?

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The ideal of Code is that members are free, they are free to do anything unless they violate the code. I won't censor my crew member just because they have an unpopular opinion.
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That's fine, but here you are disclaiming the opinion from a Code perspective. If your creedo is about freedom of speech, why are you here distancing your group from it? Just curious.
 
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