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lysan, I happen to be susceptible to that strain of paranoia. I'll make a prediction along those lines, despite my tough talk of non-compliance earlier: the vaccine that eventually arrives will be mandatory and require a certificate of compliance to prove to law enforcement that it has been administered. Just let the implications of that sink in for a while.
 
Interesting Spanish flu fact, its name varies by nation as everyone blamed it on another country. The western powers of the time all called it Spanish flu because they were annoyed at Spain for remaining neutral and as a neutral country they didn't have heavy press censorship so they talked about it first.

The Spanish called it French flu as it was spread by soldiers returning from the front.
Thanks for this complement concerning the flu ... er how ?

:)
 
Seriously people. Control your paranoia. If that vaccine is oral, what about the water you drink, the food you eat and the air you breath? o_O It's a freakin virus, and a potential vaccine. And btw. those stripes you see up there in the air is water vapor from jet engine exhaust. And the Earth is round. And it's not the center of the Universe. And...
 
Seriously people. Control your paranoia. If that vaccine is oral, what about the water you drink, the food you eat and the air you breath? o_O It's a freakin virus, and a potential vaccine. And btw. those stripes you see up there in the air is water vapor from jet engine exhaust. And the Earth is round. And it's not the center of the Universe. And...
I don't really mind flat-earthers and chem-trailers and the rest of the crazies. If somebody wants to be stupid, it's their business as long as it doesn't affect me.
Anti-vaxxers, on the other hand, I can't stand as they are actually incredibly dangerous to the society and imo should be locked up in a dark room for life and forbidden to breed.
 
Really Chris, you can't see why I wouldn't line my family up for a vaccine that hasn't been properly tested, that was developed for a mysterious illness in a total global panic? That attitude of yours is EXACTLY why there are anti-vaxxers, because at the end of the day, your're the type of guy who thinks it's ok to force me and my family to take something whether it's tested, safe or not at the point of a gun for the good of the world. You'll pardon me for being less than impressed with that idea.
 
Really Chris, you can't see why I wouldn't line my family up for a vaccine that hasn't been properly tested, that was developed for a mysterious illness in a total global panic? That attitude of yours is EXACTLY why there are anti-vaxxers, because at the end of the day, your're the type of guy who thinks it's ok to force me and my family to take something whether it's tested, safe or not at the point of a gun for the good of the world. You'll pardon me for being less than impressed with that idea.
Define 'tested'?

How many Ginny-pigs, do you need lined up, in front of you and yours, before you would feel safe about having to use it?
 

Even if a vaccine was fast tracked through the regulatory process in an emergency effort to control a pandemic, it's still going to see some significant human testing first. It's contents and production methodology are also going to be documented and held to strict standards. Even in the case of a monumental screw up where it's contaminated with something that's not supposed to be there, the odds if it causing a fraction of the harm as what's being vaccinated against is negligible.

The potential for damage from accidental contamination is limited and the idea that vaccine supplies would or could be deliberately used to introduce something, other than the vaccine in question, is paranoia. You can't hide anything you're distributing in quantity.

It's largely a moot point in an emergency anyway. If this is a new pandemic, it will be everywhere long before a vaccine is ready in quantity. Despite what some overly optimistic media stories or hyped up stock prices may seem to imply, it takes time to develop vaccines...and then you have to convince someone with the means (meaning one of a handful of big pharma giants) that it will be profitable to mass produce...then they have to manufacture and distribute it.

Far more likely you'll want a vaccine and not be able to get it than have someone try to force it on you over your protests...unless the virus becomes endemic and you're too much of an idiot to see the benefits of modern medicine when they won't let your kids attend public school without getting a proven vaccine against a demonstrably harmful pathogen.

This is unbelievable, how the Hell does not wanting to be injected with an untested serum form China equate being an anti-vaxxer?

It doesn't, but equating any vaccine that would approved by any remotely credible health system with "an untested" anything does sound rather biased against vaccination. Anything like that would probably be illegal to sell/distribute.
 
It must be comforting to know that regardless whatever threat comes your way a pile of ammunition, a sack of corn, and a well-thumbed copy of Atlas Shrugged will protect you.
I have, in fact, read Atlas Shrugged from cover to cover so many times they've actually started to fall off. I like to diversify in the food department, though:)
 
lysan, I happen to be susceptible to that strain of paranoia. I'll make a prediction along those lines, despite my tough talk of non-compliance earlier: the vaccine that eventually arrives will be mandatory and require a certificate of compliance to prove to law enforcement that it has been administered. Just let the implications of that sink in for a while.
Exactly, keyword mandatory.
 
Excuse? It's the damn reason why vaccines exist for, it's as silly as stating that soup is an excuse to use spoons.
Son, you’re young still believing in governments and their good “intentions”

however the truth is that all joke aside it is just history repeating itself.
Mega cities are a death trap, a perfect place to keep everybody under control, and radiate everyone with whatever they got installed. Think cell towers, just remember 2.5Ghz is used in microwave ovens crank up the juice and voila!
 
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