Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints....
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Looking at this in an "out of game" way.
We're assuming (*cough* desperately hoping) that 1.3 will progress this story along. The UA enigma, the mysterious Courier upgrades, the introduction of a "combat explorer", the stars seem aligned for something to move the story forward. Whether that's a full-on first-contact / alien homeworld discovery / alien invasion, or just some clues that nudge us on a bit and keep the hype building, who knows. I suspect we're a long way off "The Thargoids Strike Back", and still in the hype phase.
I don't think the introduction of those ships (& related exotic modules), by themselves, will move this puzzle along - because I don't think Frontier would want the puzzle solved by the Beta players before the game even reaches the mainstream. I could be wrong (I'm 0 for lots so far this thread) but I think there's going to be no major new discovery from us until 1.3 is fully released, and then the hint drops / random events will kick off.
We're assuming (*cough* desperately hoping) that 1.3 will progress this story along. The UA enigma, the mysterious Courier upgrades, the introduction of a "combat explorer", the stars seem aligned for something to move the story forward. Whether that's a full-on first-contact / alien homeworld discovery / alien invasion, or just some clues that nudge us on a bit and keep the hype building, who knows. I suspect we're a long way off "The Thargoids Strike Back", and still in the hype phase.
I don't think the introduction of those ships (& related exotic modules), by themselves, will move this puzzle along - because I don't think Frontier would want the puzzle solved by the Beta players before the game even reaches the mainstream. I could be wrong (I'm 0 for lots so far this thread) but I think there's going to be no major new discovery from us until 1.3 is fully released, and then the hint drops / random events will kick off.
Of course the Milky Way is a specific region of space. It has boundaries, they can be measured and even seen. But my point again was more generic than specific, it isn't that big, we know that the region(s) are within it.
The only thing Michael has told us about where they can be found (not bought
) is:They can only be found within certain regions of the galaxy which includes more than one system.
So far we've only found them in Strong Signal Sources. SSSs only appear in certain regions of the galaxy. Mostly a bubble centred on populated space but with some pockets here and there outside that. Perhaps they can be found in any SSS, anywhere. If an SSS appears there, there's a chance that a UA convoy appears. However, we don't even know that they can't appear in other Signal Sources - we only know that we haven't got a confirmed find in any other than Strong. Not finding one isn't proof that they don't exist. The evidence is stacking up against it but it isn't proof. I'm just cautioning against making definitive "only" statements.
Anyway, point made, back to the show.
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While I do agree that we shouldn't too quickly assume all kinds of things (Drew's puzzle being related to the UA, anyone?), the specific quote from Michael:That doesn't really tell us anything though. The Milky Way is a "specific region". As is "human populated space". Or "North-East London". Well okay, maybe not the last, but you see my point? Interpretation isn't fact. That's what we have to be careful of.
does seem to indicate is is a small subsection of space. If he meant the whole of human inhabited space or the entire galaxy, adding either the 'specific region' or the 'it does include multiple systems though' doesn't make sense. Agreed, it is interpretation, but reading this it reads as, it's available in some systems, at least more than one.
What might be interesting is plotting all the sightings. What have been the locations that these things have been found, is it within 50ly, 500ly, more?
Don't forget his later clarification. Regions.
That's definitely useful. I think Erimus started to do it? It's well lost now though.
I know of:
109 Virginis
Timocani
HIP 102128
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I would be interesting to plot. Maybe these "regions" are connected to the upcoming powers?
From galnet yesterday:
Soontill Relics Test Results Queried
https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/2ff0af566b06e051c2af52cd02a467351b449535
Soontill Relics Test Results Queried
https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/2ff0af566b06e051c2af52cd02a467351b449535
Lyran Betar... "Very" concealed way to suggest Beta Lyrae... ;-)
I saw an Imperial fleet that fit the bill a while back - T9, 2 Anacondas, 4 Vultures.
However, there was no chatter so it wasn't a UA and I didn't have a Cargo Scanner to check if the T9 was carrying the other interesting stuff.
Regarding Soontill relics and the GalNet Article (https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/2ff0af566b06e051c2af52cd02a467351b449535)
So all we have seen for the Soontil Relics is the canister they are stored in - we have no pictures of the contents, and what these things actually look like?
It would be interesting to visually compare them to the UAs......
Also, the Lyran Betar -> Beta Lyrae connection spotted above ^^^^ by domel may be worth some consideration. Though it may be FD playing with us (or inspired by us) for banging on about Eclipsing Binary stars for so long in this thread......
So all we have seen for the Soontil Relics is the canister they are stored in - we have no pictures of the contents, and what these things actually look like?
It would be interesting to visually compare them to the UAs......
Also, the Lyran Betar -> Beta Lyrae connection spotted above ^^^^ by domel may be worth some consideration. Though it may be FD playing with us (or inspired by us) for banging on about Eclipsing Binary stars for so long in this thread......
We had a screenie of one a little after that post. I'd call it confirmed. Both major governments are covering this thing up. But are they each aware that other is aware? Hmm
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Nah, I don't see it.
Don't you find it odd that Kahina was in fed space, was summoned to Capitol, and the above article says a UA has arrived at Capitol?
Also, does anyone know if there is an azure Gas giant at Beta Lyrae?
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Probably absolutely no relation to this at all, but I came across this whilst searching the Internet
http://genspace.com/ctta/issue-12/soontill.htm
It seems to date from 2008/09. Is the author working for Frontier?
http://genspace.com/ctta/issue-12/
http://genspace.com/ctta/issue-12/soontill.htm
It seems to date from 2008/09. Is the author working for Frontier?
http://genspace.com/ctta/issue-12/
Nope - it is a separate story line based on the lore in one of the new short stories.
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Nice find! John is the author of And here the Wheel, one of the rebooted lore books for ED.
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Exactly my thoughts... Not sure I follow the gas giant part though.
That's another personal lead I'm following, and unrelated to Kahina (I think). No point going into it atm, I'll be back with any news, if there is anything to it.
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I also noticed this last night after playing following a bit of a break due to real life work - has anyone tried to put the UA in between them and a celestial object being scanned to see if your scanner maybe interacts with or changes the "probe like" sounds the UA makes? Might be able to strike up a conversation maybe?
I would think the simplest method of finding where these UA come from would be to find more and I don't mean in the local region.
If you think about it. More and more it's looking like these are probes being sent out from somewhere. What the purpose of the probe is, is unknown. But it seems to be relaying information when you listen to it. This info is being transmitted somewhere.
If we can find more regions in the galaxy where you can find UA, there's a good chance you could calculate the approximate position from where it was sent in the galaxy. I think this is what the secrecy around them is about. The Feds, Empire and Alliance may have found them in certain regions and have calculated a rough region where they were sent from. This would explain why we're getting new combat/exploration ships and why certain personalities in the galaxy are getting upgraded FSD and discovery scanners.
We may never interpret what the UA are transmitting. But maybe that wasn't the point about them. Lets find out where they are being discovered in our region. We may be even able to send out exploration missions to find more to help us calculate where they are being sent from.
If you think about it. More and more it's looking like these are probes being sent out from somewhere. What the purpose of the probe is, is unknown. But it seems to be relaying information when you listen to it. This info is being transmitted somewhere.
If we can find more regions in the galaxy where you can find UA, there's a good chance you could calculate the approximate position from where it was sent in the galaxy. I think this is what the secrecy around them is about. The Feds, Empire and Alliance may have found them in certain regions and have calculated a rough region where they were sent from. This would explain why we're getting new combat/exploration ships and why certain personalities in the galaxy are getting upgraded FSD and discovery scanners.
We may never interpret what the UA are transmitting. But maybe that wasn't the point about them. Lets find out where they are being discovered in our region. We may be even able to send out exploration missions to find more to help us calculate where they are being sent from.
The article mentions Soontill relics which arent quite the same thing as UA, are they?Though this may all be connected anyway.
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