Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints....

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Earlier today I came into possession of one of these 'SAP 8 Core Containers' when some poor sap from the Dark Wheel had a drone fly up his T-9's cargo hatch. These 'Strong Signal Sources' can be mighty dangerous places for traders... Luckily for him I was around to make sure it didn't float away into the void, although he didn't seem to appreciate this act of kindness for whatever reason.

http://i.imgur.com/N8vUGtu.jpg

After looking a little closer at the thing, I'm not sure why it's called a SAP container. There didn't seem to be any juice in it, it certainly didn't make a sloshing sound when I shook it a little by accidentally bumping into it. In fact, it didn't seem to make any particularly interesting sound at all. Based on just looking at it, this SAP container didn't appear very special after all. The darn thing looked just like any old cargo container!

http://i.imgur.com/8fifcMa.jpg

But I just happen to have a buddy at the black market who's an expert in these kind of things... He thought that there's some kind of crystal in there. The snobby eggheads from yesterday who'll only talk to me after I get an Elite rank in trading seemed to believe it had a crystal in it as well, although they also mentioned it might be used to store data somehow. The folks at Tinia gave me a cool 349,145 CR as promised for handing this thing over to them and that was the end of it.

http://i.imgur.com/559PDTf.jpg

:eek: :O the material needed for throwing an UA theory out of the door completely.....gone for now......but oh well at least we got some information out of it, thanks anyway for the info Ezekiel Walker
 
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While the SAP-8 Core Container to UA connection sounds good, how does it fit in with the in-game description:

This container holds a crystalline shard of unknown origin. Scans indicate that the foot long shard is suspended inside a modified, self-sustaining, fusion-core containment field. Any breach of the field will result in the containers destruction.

If there's already some kind of shard in there, why do you need to put the UA in as well? How do you get it into the container, without breaching the field and destroying the container?

I also did some googling, and found SAP8 is an enzyme that increases the virulence of certain infections (and so ties in with the Peregrina plague and He Bo) but I think that's just pure coincidence.

I think the UA is the shard, which is slowly degrading its usual housing (and causing damage to any ship carrying it in that state) and eventually losing all stability and becoming annihilated once the unusual housing finaly breaks down (as shown elsewhere). This object then is stabilised by the boffins in the Federation (or whoever) within a containment field, and the whole thing packaged in a standard container (as shown below).

Earlier today I came into possession of one of these 'SAP 8 Core Containers' when some poor sap from the Dark Wheel had a drone fly up his T-9's cargo hatch. These 'Strong Signal Sources' can be mighty dangerous places for traders... Luckily for him I was around to make sure it didn't float away into the void, although he didn't seem to appreciate this act of kindness for whatever reason.

http://i.imgur.com/N8vUGtu.jpg

After looking a little closer at the thing, I'm not sure why it's called a SAP container. There didn't seem to be any juice in it, it certainly didn't make a sloshing sound when I shook it a little by accidentally bumping into it. In fact, it didn't seem to make any particularly interesting sound at all. Based on just looking at it, this SAP container didn't appear very special after all. The darn thing looked just like any old cargo container!

http://i.imgur.com/8fifcMa.jpg

But I just happen to have a buddy at the black market who's an expert in these kind of things... He thought that there's some kind of crystal in there. The snobby eggheads from yesterday who'll only talk to me after I get an Elite rank in trading seemed to believe it had a crystal in it as well, although they also mentioned it might be used to store data somehow. The folks at Tinia gave me a cool 349,145 CR as promised for handing this thing over to them and that was the end of it.

http://i.imgur.com/559PDTf.jpg

Well done. :) That's all good to know. Rep given.

To me, either the SAP-8 core container is the UA held and stabilised within a container, or it could be something else entirely. Perhaps once the next phase of the operation occurs, we'll know more.

By the way, was there any other indication in the mission text as to which agency is behind these missions, or who they may be working for?
 
:eek: :O the material needed for throwing an UA theory out of the door completely.....gone for now......but oh well at least we got some information out of it, thanks anyway for the info Ezekiel Walker

Maybe you could try selling one at Leonard Nimoy station then? *nudge nudge* ;-)
 
I think the UA is the shard, which is slowly degrading its usual housing (and causing damage to any ship carrying it in that state) and eventually losing all stability and becoming annihilated once the unusual housing finaly breaks down (as shown elsewhere). This object then is stabilised by the boffins in the Federation (or whoever) within a containment field, and the whole thing packaged in a standard container (as shown below)..

To me, either the SAP-8 core container is the UA held and stabilised within a container, or it could be something else entirely. Perhaps once the next phase of the operation occurs, we'll know more.

That's the first time we've seen an S8 container up close. Would a UA fit in there? maybe if its a contortionist!.. Your UA-shard theory is an interesting take on it now. I wonder if there is a connection between the original UA convoys and the minor factions that are now transporting Sap-8s.. that at least would give us a tenuous link between the two items.
 
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By the way, was there any other indication in the mission text as to which agency is behind these missions, or who they may be working for?

Nope, I posted all the mission text that was there and it only mentions the Dark Wheel as suspects in the Bulletin Board mission overview.

The ship I ended up relieving from their 'SAP 8 Core Container' was just some random Wanted ship that was designated as some minor faction from Tinia, instead of specifically being labelled as being associated with the Dark Wheel. There were also some Federal Navy ships flying around that had these things in their hold as well, but they didn't have any special comm chatter like the Federal Navy ships that carry the 'Unknown Artifact' have.

Upon completion there was just some standard text for completing the mission.
 
Sorry but on closer inspection, I'm not entirely convinced by these pics of the S8 - I think some (albeit very good) Photoshop wizardry has been done here.

The 'A' on the bottom left in the canopy isn't quite the right perspective for me - the horizontal bar is practically horizontal.

I think the target brackets in the main HUD are too tight to the text.

And in the screenshot showing the item in the market, I don't think the SAP 8 Core text has the same baseline as the rest of the text in the table.

I need to break out the image forensic analysis tool (probably paint!) to confirm my suspicions, though.

I genuinely hope I'm wrong ;)
 
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There were also some Federal Navy ships flying around that had these things in their hold as well.

That's at least something. So.. so far, no more reports of UAs being carried in Fed Navy ships, but an eyewitness report stating Fed Navy ships are now carrying Sap-8 Containers.

Nice work Ezekiel.
 
Sorry but on closer inspection, I'm not entirely convinced by these pics of the S8 - I think some (albeit very good) Photoshop wizardry has been done here.

The 'A' on the bottom left in the canopy isn't quite the right perspective for me - the horizontal bar is practically horizontal.

I think the target brackets in the main HUD are too tight to the text.

And in the screenshot showing the item in the market, I don't think the SAP 8 Core text has the same baseline as the rest of the text in the table.

I need to break out the image forensic analysis tool (probably paint!) to confirm my suspicions, though.

I genuinely hope I'm wrong ;)

Analysis of the HUD screenshot is inconclusive... But I think I'm right about the commodities market. I used Paint.Net to draw a horizontal line (anti-aliased), and it doesn't look right...

discrepancy.png

As is obvious (if you zoom in), there's an additional pixel or two gap from the baseline between the text in the 'Goods', 'Cargo', the 'HIGH' bit in the 'Demand' column, and in the 'Galactic Average' column.

I'm not in-game at the moment, and as a rift user my screenshots of a normal commodities market screen would be pointless(!), so getting a comparison to a real screen isn't possible.

But the discrepancy is there, and I can't understand a deliberate misalignment on the part of FD - especially between the numbers and the 'HIGH' text in the Demand column.

Anyone got a real commodities market screen to check against?
 
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Analysis of the HUD screenshot is inconclusive... But I think I'm right about the commodities market. I used Paint.Net to draw a horizontal line (anti-aliased), and it doesn't look right...

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As is obvious (if you zoom in), there's an additional pixel or two gap from the baseline between the text in the 'Goods', 'Cargo', the 'HIGH' bit in the 'Demand' column, and in the 'Galactic Average' column.

I'm not in-game at the moment, and as a rift user my screenshots of a normal commodities market screen would be pointless(!), so getting a comparison to a real screen isn't possible.

But the discrepancy is there, and I can't understand a deliberate misalignment on the part of FD - especially between the numbers and the 'HIGH' text in the Demand column.

Anyone got a real commodities market screen to check against?

...what are you trying to get at? It's virtually unnoticeable. Who cares if there's a SINGLE PIXEL DIFFERENCE between them?

Not sure if extremely desperate or extremely paranoid, either way it's almost certainly nothing.
 
I'll be surprised if its fake. However I have been surprised before. No offence needs to be taken but by all means let's verify the evidence ;)
 
...what are you trying to get at? It's virtually unnoticeable. Who cares if there's a SINGLE PIXEL DIFFERENCE between them?

Not sure if extremely desperate or extremely paranoid, either way it's almost certainly nothing.

I'd like to add, I'm really not this paranoid in real life! It's just that the way text-based GUIs are put together, it's extremely unlikely that text that's meant to be on the same line wouldn't line up, even by one pixel...

But I'll leave it there, go with the wisdom of the crowd and take my paranoia hat off... Not trying to upset anyone or wind anyone up - just being sceptical...

I'll get on with just being happy that we now have a shot of the SAP 8, thanks to you, Ezekiel!
 
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Hi all. I can verify that the picture is correct. On Sunday morning I had a mission to scoop up a sap 8 container, and I took several screenies of it. I'm away until Friday evening, but will post the pictures for you all to see then, however it looked just like the picture posted earlier. Just a plain old cannister. And I would like to assure you that this is not a hoax. I was somewhere near kuuku in imperial space.
 
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