Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

I respect your opinion.
To me, I think we need the Black Caiman in the game since I think we need another reptile that's bigger than the American Alligator.
Im actually of the opposite opinion, we got so many giant crocodilian that if we get any more it really has to be the slender snouted croc imo. Something medium sized, which is kinda missing atm.
Aside from somethign for africa, i think were good on crocs and they focus should shift to others reptiles
 
So my prediction for Spring:
Temperate pack:
Mix of Wood cabin, camping and indigenous scenery
-NA black bear: NA missing icon, obligatory clone of the pack
-NA porcupine: Common NA for the rest of the world
-Mandarin duck/ golden pheasant: Bird slot to provide some of the most common and imo most painfully missing zoo animals
-Reeves muntjac: Asian deer, smallish and required ungulate of the pack
-Tuatara: What should have been in the OCE pack, NZs missing icon

Id really prefer the yellow throated marten over the porcupine, but it would feel wrong to have an NA scenery pack with only one NA animal.
 
I think these would make people’s zoo collections really different:

Tigers
  • Siberian
  • Sumatran
  • Bengal (White variant included)
Lions
  • Asiatic
  • African
Zebras
  • Grevy’s
  • Plains
Giraffes
  • Masai
  • Reticulated
Otters
  • Sea
  • North American
  • Giant
  • Eurasian
  • Asian Small Clawed
Gazelles
  • Thompsons
  • Dama
  • Slender Horned
Elephants
  • African Savanna
  • African Forest
  • Indian Elephant
Flamingos
  • American
  • Greater
  • Chilean
These would obviously be for a PZ2.
I would appreciate that amount of variety, although that many otters seems a little bit unnecessary for me personally.
 
I respect your opinion.
To me, I think we need the Black Caiman in the game since I think we need another reptile that's bigger than the American Alligator.
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Honestly I was thinking of how “flying birds” could be added, and with @CharlieXGaming mentioned on what is needed to add some more flair than say another deer (I want another deer though). So I think the animal should be the scarlet ibis.View attachment 379374

I mean it can not only be another bird, but also South American representation. But here is what I think the gameplay feature could be: it can “use” the climbing pieces, and maybe even “fly” up to them. It wouldn’t be true free flying, but essentially a long jump up to one of the climbing pieces. Maybe on a climbing piece like a rope it can slide left or right, but it can’t “climb up” like a monkey or lemur can. So if you have a large habitat and set up some ropes, the scarlet ibis flock can “fly” up to it. So you could make a pretty convincing aviary!

It would look something like this:
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I made this in 3 seconds on Procreate but this is what I was thinking. I can imagine a number of birds could be added with the “jump” mechanic being paired with claimable objects. It will allow people to build birds into habitats with verticality. It wouldn’t be as glitchy as regular climbing either as the birds would only “fly” (jump) to where they need to go.
Actually I’m quoting my own post because I saw the Leaf video of someone using a monkey rig for parrots. It doesn’t look perfect, but it really makes me wonder if “climbing” and “jumping” could be the gateway to get flying birds into Planet Zoo. I’ve never programmed or modded a day in my life, but over New Years weekend I have been thinking about this post I made a lot.

Even large birds of prey like eagles and vultures will spend a lot of time on the ground, using this method even certain crane or stork species could be added into the game. I don’t think small flying birds could use this method though.

Also with another year upon us what do you guys think are the three most likely things to happen to a planet zoo?

Here are my three:
  1. We get a South America animal pack
  2. We get at least one other bird species, may not be a unique rig or bird though
  3. Planet Zoo comes to console later this year
 
I think these would make people’s zoo collections really different:

Tigers
  • Siberian
  • Sumatran
  • Bengal (White variant included)
Lions
  • Asiatic
  • African
Zebras
  • Grevy’s
  • Plains
Giraffes
  • Masai
  • Reticulated
Otters
  • Sea
  • North American
  • Giant
  • Eurasian
  • Asian Small Clawed
Gazelles
  • Thompsons
  • Dama
  • Slender Horned
Elephants
  • African Savanna
  • African Forest
  • Indian Elephant
Flamingos
  • American
  • Greater
  • Chilean
These would obviously be for a PZ2.
African forest elephant is so niche that it’s hard to justify but overall I like this lineup. Brown bears and wolves could also use a bit of expansion, but I think in both of their cases it’s simply a matter of “add the European/Eurasian one and call it a day”, perhaps losing the HBB in the process.
 
I think this is the only time you can make a PZ meme referencing Africa not having good representation and it actually works lmao.
Well, that and Monkeys. At least we have one monkey though.

Not having the Nile Crocodile four years in is baffling in a way, but it also hasn't really coincided with that many themes. Africa pack, sure, but I'm so glad we got all of the roster there we did. Could have replaced the Spectacled Caiman in the Wetlands pack, but I think that's now the preferred Caiman? Still may have been the best option. Arid pack wouldn't really be a good fit for it. Honestly I'm still surprised it wasn't in the base game.

I think..it's actually the point we have zero crocadilians for Africa, when there's an iconic and well known species that would take little effort to add.
 
It feels weird that we have 3 options for gazelles, 2 options for camels and wildebeest, but we only have 1 option for flamingos, which are a lot more popular and common than the animals I listed before.
exactly and people are still mad at me when I say I dont want more ungulates when this is what the diversity looks like.
I definitely agree with the giraffe even though it is one of the better models of the base game, it deserves a second subspecies like Masai. Zebra I have doubts because they aren’t even a colour change it is very very subtle differences between species.
I would say the masai girafee and another zebra species would be ust as visually distinct from each other
That is precisely my point, thank you for summing it up so well. Not every animal needs a couple of options, but the animals that are super iconic should have at least a second option, where possible. plus, Giraffes are super unique and look like nothing else in zoos, so it's not like we can replace it with a different but similar option.

I wouldn't be opposed to a second option for all of these:
Giraffe
Lion
Zebra
Gorilla
Flamingo
Ostrich
Peafowl
Kangaroo (though some may debate the Wallaby is close enough)

That's really about it for what I would consider top tier and super iconic zoo animals. I realize some of these would just be separately named populations since they're not even subspecies, but my point holds to that.

Giraffe, lion, zebra agree. Massai, Asiatic and Grevy's are different enough that would be useful. And a new lion (or new tiger) would give us versions with updated models so i'm for it.

On the other hand gorilla, peafowl, flamingo, kangaroo are all straight up clones with slight recolors or name changes and they are a complete waste of a precios slot in what are very possibly the last couple of DLCs.

And i specially don't want another ostrich when we don't even have a rhea still.
The fact that somewhere in your mind you can justify another zebra and not a flamingo is ridiculous because unless its the lesser flamingo which is still fairly visually distinct another flamingo would represent a whole new continent and range that currently has no birds at all let alone a flamingo.

another giraffe, zebra, peafowl and kangaroo all fall into the category of just providing more options to players they all look very similar and share territory and climatic range what they offer however is the option to include more diversity every zoo doesnt have the same species of zebra or giraffe so why should all our zoos.

The lion actually could be significantly different depending on which subset they introduce considering we dont have a tropical or asian lion representative.

Gorilla is truly pointless since almost all zoo gorillas are the subspecies we have in the game there is no major range or biome differences and its visually very similar.
TBH i agree. I don't want any of these animals before other kinds. But, lions and tigers would provide updated models to base game animals that really need a remaster. The male lion is unusable for me. I don't personally want another giraffe or another zebra but i can see how they could be different enough, specially the Grevy's zebra ( and tbh zebra model could also do with some rework).

I haven't consider the Congo peafowl. I'll be down for that one.

I don't understand how the grey kangaroo is that distinct from the red but i'm not from Australia, maybe they are as important to you as the rhea is for me.
they are about as visually distinct as the zebra species where unless you know what your looking for they arent that different. The biggest distinction comes from size and prevalence grey kangaroos are everywhere in australia both in zoos and in the wild.
Yeah definitely weird choice for an exact population name. But since they've broken down the lion by population group, they could do another population group, or the Asiatic subspecies. Frankly, both Lions and Giraffes are in the upper echelons of iconic zoo animals, so it's not like having a second option for both is unnecessary. At least, IMO.
The thing is based on the taxonomic model they used for the west african lion they cant add the Asiatic because technically they are the same subspecies now
I do like the idea of multiple subspecies, that was the main thing I liked about the Xbox zoo tycoon that you could have different subspecies of the same animal, like animal categories. The problem with that game was that it almost focused too much on those subspecies that it lacked in actual animal diversity in general. If we could have in PZ2 a large roster of different animals but then with those animals having subspecies, that could be a really cool thing imo and would allow for so much more variety to peoples zoos.

Everyone’s zoos are always different because of the scenery, but if we do get a sequel I really want them to focus on the animals and subspecies so that players zoos can be really different from eachother.
yeah zoo tycoon xbox just took the subspecies to the extreme some of the worked well the bears for example if they added the spectacled and the panda would of been perfect.
Then you look at the jaguars which even the game recognises there is no meaningful differences. There is also the the cougars which have multiple sub populations of tropical south american cougars and none from the temperate range of the animals.

I think the elephants lions and giraffes were close to perfect with only a few redundant additions
 
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