Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

Milurian

Milurian
Orkan said:
I don’t know why there’s so much confusion on the species that came from which continents. The actual list is:

North America: 3 (Peccary, Wolverine, Swan)
South America: 2 (Peccary, Sloth)
Europe: 6 (Porcupine, Swan, Wolverine, Wisent, Boar, Tortoise)
Asia: 12 (Gibbon, Monitor, Dromedary, Sand Cat, Horned Viper, Flying Fox, Wolverine, Saiga, Swan, Boar, Sloth Bear, Takin)
Africa: 10 (Fossa, RRH, Dromedary, Porcupine, Addax, Dama, Rhino, Horned Viper, Donkey, Sand Cat)
Oceania: 5 (Devil, Penguin, Flying Fox, Quokka, Kiwi)
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Im hesitant to include the wolverine in this list since they could very well pick the eurasian subspecies instead of just general wolverine also while the swan is found in north america now it is not native it would be like saying the red fox is oceanic representation. Someone brought up the sloth having range in north america but im not too sure about that and the game doesnt classify it as such. Also depending on how they classify europe the saiga could very well be considered european as well.

If your going to be utterly confused as to why there is a debate about continent distribution I would like you to know that you dont even get it right according to frontier the flying fox doesnt exist in asia which is mostly correct since they stay on the australia side of the wallace line.
Fallax said:
Swan isn't native to NA but is an introduction and the sloth does also range into NA as well.
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Didnt know the sloth had a population in north america the game says its only south american though.
 
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MothHex

MothHex
Milurian said:
The rosters arent random but me trying to make patterns out of nothing these are all the remaining animal tags that dont have dedicated packs.
I like these rosters and animal choices all except the Chinese salamander I will die on the hill that it should be a habitat animal as its is one of the only amphibians big enough to actually work as one.
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Same here. I have doubts that we could fit 3-4 giant salamanders comfortably in an exhibit box, and that's my personal minimum number of animals that could be housed in an exhibit for me to consider it a potential exhibit species.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
CharlieXGaming said:
Been thinking more about this. I think the next pack won't be South American themed. I think everyones right, it needs to be an animal pack. I was for a scenery pack but I was also assuming we would get a couple SA creatures in this current pack, yet we didn't. I also don't think they will stop the trend of the regional packs. Theres no themes left that they haven't done, we've covered all the biomes (except for alpine but I guess Eurasia sorta covers it) so I think they would return to a continent that might not have the top animals, but a requested scenery theme, that being North America.
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While North America might not need new species, I think it deserves a small upgrade since the rest of the continents has had an uplift. With the Snowshoe Hare being the headliner and the unique rig of this pack, a bunny should be able to draw a lot of attention from a general audience. Combining the winter feel while also travelling into spring with the woodlands. The Musk Ox and Bear were both requested, infact I think they're both in the top 30 of the meta wishlist. The bear could be the reciever of a few new animations like more unique climbing or fishing behavior? The Elk is the direct clone of the pack. I suppose other animals like a duck could fit in but adding in marshlands would take away from the cold woodlands feel of the pack. A marten could also get in here too as the second new rig, but we don't know if the 2 rigs per pack will be dropped to 1 because of frontiers status so I played it safe and kept the bear, elk and musk ox.

Scenery set has been heavily requested, Native American scenery set, mostly new wooden and stone sets with lots of new shrubs, trees and grasses that belong to North Americas northern boreal forests.

Only problem with this pack is that it doesn't include Walrus nor a pelican, but I'm confident they'll find their way into a later pack. Its a spring pack, it really doesn't feel like Walrus time.
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This is a great lineup for a Boreal pack. I mean, of course I'd rather other themes, but if we went with this team these are very solid choices. So much so I can't even think of any replacements I'd like to see instead.
 

NachoB

NachoB
That is the exact same line up i came up with when i was thinking about a Boreal pack lol I was also thinking sea otter but then when you say Boreal you think woods. I agree. I don't like the exhibit animal though. Put that flying squirrrel from siberia or smth.

I also thought cappercaillie so it is not all NA, since musk ox can be found both in NA and Europe. But the hare would be cool.
 

Milurian

Milurian
CharlieXGaming said:
I assumed it would be all NA because of the last 3 packs being regional, it would just be like arid where it’s regional but with a biome name.
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I refuse to accept this I hated that arid was both a regional and biome pack. It narrows down the rosters use too much because your restricted in both biome and region so the animals end up niche.
 

Markiz

Markiz
Emcee said:
The Saiga should definitely be considered a European animal. As far as I’m aware, they’re present in Eastern Europe. At least historically, they were present all over Europe including the British Isles.
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Ooh, I had no idea there were Saigas in Britain, cool. But I don't think they're present in Eastern Europe (in wild that is).

I mean a small part of Kazakhstan is "in Europe", as in West of Ural, so by technicality you can say that there are Saigas in European country, but that would be a stretch.

Of course I am talking from the top of my head, so I might as well be wrong on this
 

Angeł

Angeł
Markiz said:
Ooh, I had no idea there were Saigas in Britain, cool. But I don't think they're present in Eastern Europe (in wild that is).

I mean a small part of Kazakhstan is "in Europe", as in West of Ural, so by technicality you can say that there are Saigas in European country, but that would be a stretch.

Of course I am talking from the top of my head, so I might as well be wrong on this
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So am I😂😂 I just seemed to remember there being a whole deal about them being present in Ukraine, but I can’t remember.

And yeah, in ancient historical times, there were Saigas in the British Isles I believe. Obviously LONG regionally extinct.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Yeah I'm locking in my guess for spring as a boreal pack as a secret North America scenery pack.
  • American Black Bear
  • Musk Ox
  • Rocky Mountain Elk
  • Snowshoe Hare
  • Northern Leopard Frog (E)
  • Native American Scenery Set
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Milurian

Milurian
Emcee said:
So am I😂😂 I just seemed to remember there being a whole deal about them being present in Ukraine, but I can’t remember.

And yeah, in ancient historical times, there were Saigas in the British Isles I believe. Obviously LONG regionally extinct.
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They are kept in loose captivity in ukraine one of the few places to do so if that is what you mean
 

Chuditch

Chuditch
Markiz said:
Ooh, I had no idea there were Saigas in Britain, cool. But I don't think they're present in Eastern Europe (in wild that is).

I mean a small part of Kazakhstan is "in Europe", as in West of Ural, so by technicality you can say that there are Saigas in European country, but that would be a stretch.

Of course I am talking from the top of my head, so I might as well be wrong on this
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They’re also still found wild in the Kalmykia and Astrakhan regions of Russia, which are very near the border with Asia but still considered to be part of Europe.
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
Saiga were indeed really widespread in the past, albeit this was during the Pleistocene - in that time they ranged from Britain in the west across the the Northwest Territories in Canada.

As for their presence in Ukraine, in 2021 there were ten being kept in an enclosure in a rewilding area in the Danube Delta (close to the Romanian border). But I'm not sure how well they've fared or if any more will be coming - the place they were sourced from is in the northeast of Ukraine and has been really badly affected by the war.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
CharlieXGaming said:
Yeah I'm locking in my guess for spring as a boreal pack as a secret North America scenery pack.
  • American Black Bear
  • Musk Ox
  • Rocky Mountain Elk
  • Snowshoe Hare
  • Northern Leopard Frog (E)
  • Native American Scenery Set
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You've managed to create a pack concept that does literally nothing for me. Unless the scenery set was mind-blowing this would be the first DLC I would not buy.
 

Antimony96

Antimony96
CharlieXGaming said:
Yeah I'm locking in my guess for spring as a boreal pack as a secret North America scenery pack.
  • American Black Bear
  • Musk Ox
  • Rocky Mountain Elk
  • Snowshoe Hare
  • Northern Leopard Frog (E)
  • Native American Scenery Set
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I think you'd have to fit the walrus, sea otter, or North American porcupine (unique rig in place of the hare) in here for this to have any appeal.
 

becks474

B
CharlieXGaming said:
Yeah I'm locking in my guess for spring as a boreal pack as a secret North America scenery pack.
  • American Black Bear
  • Musk Ox
  • Rocky Mountain Elk
  • Snowshoe Hare
  • Northern Leopard Frog (E)
  • Native American Scenery Set
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Antimony96 said:
I think you'd have to fit the walrus, sea otter, or North American porcupine (unique rig in place of the hare) in here for this to have any appeal.
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I think ABB and Musk Ox are quite fine. The ABB is the Wild Boar of NA. Potentially for some people Not the most attractive animal but needed. And I really now want all bears 😃. I also could live with a Deer even when I do not need one myself. but I think Wapiti or White Tailed Deer are more appealing. And the fourth animal really could be the Walrus which is quite popular and would bring another completely different pinniped to the Game.
 
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