Why would they give away animal moddeling and more complex animations for free? Yes, we had anniversary animals. But "a bunch of exhibit animals"?
Spring 2024 DLC Speculation
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Out of everything people want for features that would be a weird one to give out, especially given that it would take quite a bit of work for no profit.
I should have said the new feature and release some as apart of a dlc
After watching the trailer it looks like we might be getting null walls on staff facilities...fingers crossed on exhibits too!! (very wishful thinking)
What about - and hear me out, slow-mo mode. Look at the zebra clip in the console trailer, it’s probably just editing, however, i think it could be a cool addition for a final update.
Null staff facilities would be phenomenal (and exhibits too; legit still a bit shocked that hasn't happened) but I wouldn't take that as a hint of any sort. After that initial (adorable!) video with the lemur ends, the "Game Engine Footage" watermark pops up.
So nothing in that initial 0:45 or so should be confused with what's in-game. That's obvious because of the lemur but I wouldn't get your hopes up on that.
So nothing in that initial 0:45 or so should be confused with what's in-game. That's obvious because of the lemur but I wouldn't get your hopes up on that.
I'm not talking about the part with the controller or lemur where the walls and stuff are removed for effect. I'm talking about the first 3 seconds where we see a fully custom keeper hut (and is very close to a guest path I might add). Hope it's a thing but if not, no big deal to me. I am happy with the game if it were to be the end as is because then I'll go crazy with mods, and if it's not the end I'm happy with w/e content we get.
Yeah, that part doesn't have the "Game Engine" watermark on it. That feeds into the bit I'm talking about. It feels like something they put together purely for the trailer... Like you, though, I'd love for that to be a thing!
Even better? They give us null exhibits and null facilities - with prop versions of all of the content of each. The exhibit plants and rocks, the various bits and pieces from the facilities themselves, etc. Pipe dreams!
Bold prediction here, but maybe the last DLC for PC will labeled as an expansion pack for Console. Obviously they will not call it the “Farewell Animal Pack” as its a bit dower and the Console Edition would have just been released and could cause confusion.
If this pack is bigger than normal, I could totally seem them calling it either “Worldwide Animal Pack” or “Fan Favorite Animal Pack” and then releasing it on console as a separate pack and replacing the word “Animal” with “Expansion”.
As it is, the console edition gets an “Deluxe Upgrade Pack” so naming conventions have gone out the window.
If this pack is bigger than normal, I could totally seem them calling it either “Worldwide Animal Pack” or “Fan Favorite Animal Pack” and then releasing it on console as a separate pack and replacing the word “Animal” with “Expansion”.
As it is, the console edition gets an “Deluxe Upgrade Pack” so naming conventions have gone out the window.
Wetlands was released in 2022 and Easter that year was on the 17th of April. Literally all Spring packs (including Planet Coaster's packs) have been released in the week of Easter.
I see I did miss your other post after this; but in general the best approach is to patterns is that a pattern is a pattern until it's broken and not before. We can do all kinds of "yeah but this", but the only information we can go on is the information we have. Which means a release in the week of the 25th of March.
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But normally realising a console version on the same date isn't part of the pattern so isn't the pattern already broken?
Given that we only have Planet Coaster to go by and that console release was heavily impacted by Covid (people tend to forget it was already announced in 2019); there's nothing we can go on really. We can't say that the pattern is broken already because we don't know if the pattern will be broken in the first place.
The common argument I see to not combine a new DLC in the same week as the console release is so that content creators have breathing room; but the majority of content creators who play it on PC aren't going to be the ones playing it on console.
At this point it's just whatever, if Frontier wants to release them both in the same week they will. Sure we can come up with reasons why it's better not to; but then again, if they want to they just will.
Me too, but I said "or". I doubt any of us has ever been in a zoo without aquarium, flying birds, or domestic animals area. At its present version, this zoo simulator doesn't allow us to build any zoo we have ever been.
I'm not asking for every animal species in zoos. If we get no blackbuck or baboon it's a shame but they aren't THAT different to animals already in the game, you can use a gazelle or a macaque as replacement species or as a base for modding them.
What I'm asking for is not forgetting whole animal classes that fill entire areas in zoos. We already have bats and butterflies flying in aviaries, is it really too much asking for birds and saying they are missing? We already have turtles and amphibians swimming in water tanks, if they aren't giving us fish is because they don't want to, not because they can't.
Not every single bird and every single fish, just any bird and any fish, so that more species can be easily modded.
Well but the customisation options is a staple of Frontier, it's just the same system from Planet Coaster, so it would be nonsense expecting a different and probably worse system for Planet Zoo. And ZT2 already had coloration variants.
Well that's pretty much the thing, ZT2 is an old game so PZ must obviously have better graphics and some other better things that reflect how much video games have improved in these years. And I must note again that ZT2 was just 3 years after ZT1, and the improvement leap was as big as PZ after 15 years. So better graphics and gameplay is a given. Congratulating the developers for not giving us aged graphics or a worse customisation system than in their previous game is more insulting I think...
But what it shouldn't be expected is cutting content that was present in zoo games two decades ago and that we know it can be made in the current game.
Once again, I'm not asking for dinosaurs, unicorns, every leopard subspecies and a mobile version of the game. I think I'm being reasonable within what we already know the game could do and what previous zoo games achieved. And if Frontier doesn't want to introduce content that would do wonders for the game and it would be easy for them, I'm not going to cheer them for the business decision and saying I trust them with another 100 bucks of my money for a Planet Zoo 2.
Edit: OMG sorry for the wall text, I didn't want to look that angry Haha Sorry @Swjosdotschka
But I wanted to make my point clear.
I'll try think of the same theme but with 7+5 animal pack. Preferably 5 macaws for WTE.
Doing wildcards makes sense if you think of it as a strategy to save a potential seller for a later pack, I think it remains as the most likely reason why they added something like the Quokka. We can only wait.
Seems a little quite bit of effort to synchronize a console release with an additional update + DLC release imo, I think they might chain them up releasing the console version first and announcing a new dlc a month later or so to relief the tension of two coordinated important releases for the game, would also make sense if the DLC takes a bit more time to get announced if it's supposedly the last one and has more content than previous DLCs.
Also checking the zoopedia page you can see there is no llama nor black rhino so that confirms that it is an oversight from the marketing team on the promotional images.
That's the main difference between our point of views. I do not see not integrating birds as a business decision, but rather as a development decission.
I firmly believe they WANTED to include free flying birds, weren't able to, didn't want to cut corners with exhibit birds, but rather figure things out for the next installment.
They also didn't give Flamingos color differences because they wanted it to be connected to food (like IRL), but weren't able to in the end, after they tried for a while.
I can see that being frustrating if one would be okay with the easier road. But a business decision for me would be "we are deliberately not integrating flying birds of any kind, because the costs for development would be too high compared to the revenue."
As you say, that wouldn't make sense because we have the walk in exhibits.
I still think the developers are holding themself up to high standards. And for the future of Planet Zoo 2, that is a good thing.
That may be the reason for flying birds and fully Aquatic animals but still doesn't explain the extreme lack of habitat birds that could have been made of already existing ones. We just got the swan so i can forgive ducks and pelicans until the next DLC hoping they will introduce them then, but... No crowned crane? No guineafowl or pheasants? No storks, ibis, spoonbills? Even just a handfull of those would do wonders for the bird roster... But we have all the ratites minus one (again weird but may come next as well) and three penguins. Not what i call variety.
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Not once did I do that. You even saying that to me is literally "making up a scenario to get mad at". The passive-aggressive "lol" doesn't make it better. Don't be a hypocrite.
Anyway, a ton of people, even here in this thread, who have played on PC for years, have expressed interest in getting the console version, so even if it's not intentional the new adaptation is appealing to at least some PC players, hence the discussion existing in the first place.
I was referring to all the people who were theorizing they would be adding some exclusive animal on the console version for no reason, not you specifically, hence why I separate the response to your comment and that other comment by paragraphs.
That I can stand behind. I mean, personally I couldn't care less about phesants and spoonbills and whatnot, but more waterfowl was what I expected after the swan. And yes, red crowned crane, stork etc. is a gap.