Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

Would be though? Manatee's locomotion isn't very fitting for fish. I mean the advantage of the rig would be fully aquatic mods but i think the movements would still be better with the current aquatic rigs.
Oddly enough I can see it work for slow moving fish like a whale shark, arapima, and other very large fish species. But yeah I think a manatee would be a bit too slow and cumbersome.
 
Now here's something to chew on...

What if, hypothetically, we DO get a big, grandiose farewell pack with 20 animals, bringing the roster to 200 on the dot.

Would the current Top 20 on the Meta-Wishlist suffice? Really examine it now.
Can you confidently "YES, These are the exact animals we require to have a complete roster"?

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Sure this works, with one exception. Take out the Manatee and added in the Mara.
 
Now here's something to chew on...

What if, hypothetically, we DO get a big, grandiose farewell pack with 20 animals, bringing the roster to 200 on the dot.

Would the current Top 20 on the Meta-Wishlist suffice? Really examine it now.
Can you confidently "YES, These are the exact animals we require to have a complete roster"?

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Only 4 birds so no lol. Honestly out of this top 20 I would say about 12 are necessary at this point.

Get rid of tree-kangaroo, musk ox, ocelot, markhor, spectacled bear, serval, honey badger, sea otter and gelada (ouch these hurt) and replace them with rhea, scarlet ibis, guineafowl, roadrunner, spider monkey, spoonbill, squirrel monkey, and if we are including manatee screw it include the burrowing owl. And I haven't even included a duck or a pheasant... Yea nevermind this is an impossible task lol.
 
Would the current Top 20 on the Meta-Wishlist suffice?
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Let's see where people are right now regarding certain groups. Out of these "core zoo animal" groups which is your most wanted habitat species?

Carnivorans - South American Coati
Ungulates - Reeves' Muntjac (I think this and the blackbuck are the last two that are truly essential)
Primates - Any Callitrichid (Tamarin, Marmoset, etc)
Other Mammals - Rock Hyrax
Birds - Too many, I think right now I would say Pelican, Rhea, Stork, or Guineafowl, all my most wanteds are birds at this point.
Reptiles - African Spurred Tortoise
 
Only 4 birds so no lol. Honestly out of this top 20 I would say about 12 are necessary at this point.

Get rid of tree-kangaroo, musk ox, ocelot, markhor, spectacled bear, serval, honey badger, sea otter and gelada (ouch these hurt) and replace them with rhea, scarlet ibis, guineafowl, roadrunner, spider monkey, spoonbill, squirrel monkey, and if we are including manatee screw it include the burrowing owl. And I haven't even included a duck or a pheasant... Yea nevermind this is an impossible task lol.
I think including 4 new world monkeys is a bit excessive where honestly only the howler and one other of personal choice is needed.
 
I think including 4 new world monkeys is a bit excessive where honestly only the howler and one other of personal choice is needed.
Honestly I think the bare minimum is three:
  1. One of either spider or howler (I prefer spider but I'll take either).
  2. Any callitrichid (be that a tamarin, marmoset, or whatever)
  3. Squirrel monkey
Unfortunately won't happen (I'm still unsure how Frontier would tackle callitrichids). I think our best case scenario right now with NW Monkeys is probably a double pick of howler (most requested) and squirrel (easiest to make from the capuchin).
 
Squirrel monkey
I’d rather any other animal from SA that’s not a monkey instead of the squirrel monkey, just personal preference but I don’t see the want for it, it’s another really small primate like the capuchin and lemurs we already have. I’d choose:
  1. Spider or Howler
  2. Golden Lion Tamarin (yes it’s small but it’s in its own category of monkeys)
  3. White faced Saki
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
1. Southamerican coati
2. Greater rhea
3. Patagonian mara
4. Ocelot
5. Secretary bird
6. Grey crowned crane
7. Mandarín duck
8. Burrowing owl
9. Howler monkey
10. Mantled guereza
11. Golden pheasant
12. Blackbuck
13. Musk ox
14. Markhor
15. Sea otter
16. Brown pelican
17. Roseate spoonbill or Scarlet ibis
18. Perentie
19. Short beaked echidna
20. Palla's cat

This was hard and easy to pick at the same timo haha
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
PRIMATES
1. Gelada
2. Red Faced Spider Monkey
3. Black and Gold Howler Monkey
4. Black Capped Squirrel Monkey
5. Mantled Guereza
6. Aye Aye
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UNGULATES
7. Muskox
8. Scottish Highland Cattle
9. African Dwarf Goat
10. Domestic Yak
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BEARS
11. Spectacled Bear
12. Eurasian Brown Bear
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CATS
13. Sumatran Tiger
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BIRDS
14. Scarlet Ibis
15. Roseate Spoonbill
16. American Flamingo
17. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
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OTHER
18. White Nosed Coati
19. Southern Tamandua
20. Linnaeus’ Two Toed Sloth (WTE)
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
Ah yeah here we go
  1. Gelada
  2. Hamadryas Baboon
  3. Spider Monkey (don’t care what kind)
  4. White Faced Saki
  5. Golden Lion Tamarin
  6. Serval
  7. Spectacled Bear
  8. Mallard
  9. Mandarin Duck
  10. Brown Pelican
  11. Southern Ground Hornbill
  12. Grey Crowned Crane
  13. Secretary Bird
  14. Goodfellows Tree Kangaroo
  15. Pallas Cat
  16. Markhor
  17. Rock Hyrax
  18. Golden Pheasant
  19. Aoudad
  20. Black and White Collabus
Seems fair to me.
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
  1. Musk Ox
  2. North American river otter
  3. Black and White colobus monkey
  4. Mountain Goat
  5. Whooping Crane
  6. Black howler monkey
  7. Roseate Spoonbill
  8. White faced whistling duck
  9. Mallard duck
  10. American Flamingo
  11. Spider Monkey
  12. Lion Tailed Macaque
  13. Golden Snub Nosed Monkey
  14. Leopard Tortoise
  15. African Dwarf Crocodile
  16. Ankole Watussi Cow
  17. African dwarf goat
  18. Pallas Cat
  19. Tree Kangaroo
  20. Grey Crowned Crane
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
I'd need to actually have a properly long think about this but off the top of my head right now?

  1. White Stork
  2. Scarlet Ibis
  3. Greater Rhea
  4. Great White Pelican
  5. Helmeted Guineafowl
  6. Grey Crowned Crane
  7. African Spurred Tortoise
  8. White-Faced Whistling Duck
  9. South American Coati
  10. Roseate Spoonbill
  11. Reeves' Muntjac
  12. Bar-Headed Goose
  13. Guianan Squirrel Monkey
  14. Rock Hyrax
  15. Southern Ground Hornbill
  16. Secretary Bird
  17. Greater Roadrunner
  18. Colombian Black Spider Monkey
  19. Any Tamarin/Marmoset
  20. Short-Beaked Echidna
Ask me again next week and it will probably be different, I've considered making my own big wishlist before but it would be too long and thinking of specific species could be difficult for some larger groups.
 
Going off the top 20 meta wishlist animals, if you could pick 20 animals for the final dlc what would you pick? It can be as selfish as you want.
Favorite Zoo Animals: (3)
  1. Golden Lion Tamarin: my love and an important icon from SA
  2. American Black Bear: my local love and a bear with lots of color morphs would be my favorite.
  3. Serval: I've seen them a bunch of times and I just really like them.
Other Monkeys: (5)
  1. Black Howler Monkey: SA icon
  2. Geoffroy's Spider Monkey: I can pretend the color morphs are different monkeys
  3. Hamadryas Baboon: ABC animal and an arid monkey enclosure would be different
  4. Guereza: Africa needs a small monkey, and they have a cool cape
  5. Cotton Top Tamarin: I like tamarins and am especially missing them today. I might swap a second tamarin for a Pallas's Cat or Markhor on another day.
Birds: (5)
  1. Grey Crowned Crane: Cool African bird. I would accept a Secretary bird as well.
  2. Roseate Spoonbill: Pink Tropical icon
  3. Brown Pelican: Adds a Pelican and a nearctic--We're the only realm without any whatsoever--bird. Also could live with both pinnipeds.
  4. Mandarin Duck: Pretty duck to make a rig for modders
  5. Rhea: They aren't super exciting to me. Selfishlly I might trade this one for an markhor, but I wouldn't like SA having such a noticable gap.
Other South American Stuff (4)
  1. South American Coati: Very important and requested animal
  2. Margay: Ocelot would be fine, but reusing the fossa rig would be fun. It could hunt tamarins.
  3. Spectacled Bear: It's the last bear and an icon of the Andes.
  4. Patagonian Mara: They're cute. Apparently they are important for SA. I might consider subbing it for a tamandua to use the pangolin again, but Mara's are also cool.
Other (3):
  1. Tree Kangaroo
  2. Reeves's Muntjac
  3. Echidna
Honorable Mentions: Tamandua, Markhor, Pallas's Cat, Grey Langur, Blackbuck
 
So wait..going off the meta list, pick 20 of the top 20? Or some of our own wants
What 20 animals would you pick, doesn’t have to relate to the meta wishlist unless you want to. Here, I’ll give mine:

  1. Hamadryas baboon
  2. Black and white colobus
  3. Black howler monkey
  4. Golden lion tamarin
  5. White faced saki
  6. Domestic goat (probably Nigerian dwarf)
  7. Patagonian mara
  8. White nosed coati
  9. Exhibit: Jackson chameleon
  10. Exhibit: king cobra
  11. Greater rhea
  12. Mallard duck
  13. White faced whistling duck
  14. Grey crowned crane
  15. Golden pheasant
  16. Brown pelican
  17. Burrowing owl
  18. American flamingo
  19. Black swan
  20. Western Capercaillie
 
Going off everyone’s responses, and including my own, birds make an average of 7.14 slots in our final 20 animals.

Mine was 10
@SuzieSky was 5
@Fallax was 11
@Captain Callum was 6
@CharlieXGaming was 7
@Emcee was 4
@NachoB was 7

Anyone correct me if I got the math wrong, and I will try to add more people to the calculation later.

Makes me wonder if the final dlc of bird distribution will be around that. Or around a third of the final animals being birds (7/20).

Which is interesting as the current meta wishlist only has around 4 birds in the top. I wonder if Frontier will follow the meta wishlist or follow more of the current community needs.

@Utahraptor104 was 7
@Marvinb was 6
@Corail was 9
@Chuditch was 6
@jcp011c was also 6

Brings the total to 84, or around 7 birds again.
 
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