God it would be cool if it was announced Wednesday morning, talk about it in the stream, then for the next 12 days have little showcase videos like SA and Arctic Packs did for all 12 species as a build up to the final pack of PZ on May the 7th.
So we are assumings is going to be 12 species? Ok, i like that.God it would be cool if it was announced Wednesday morning, talk about it in the stream, then for the next 12 days have little showcase videos like SA and Arctic Packs did for all 12 species as a build up to the final pack of PZ on May the 7th.
That would be cool but I'm just going to be sticking with the idea we're just getting a regular scenery pack as to not hype myself upGod it would be cool if it was announced Wednesday morning, talk about it in the stream, then for the next 12 days have little showcase videos like SA and Arctic Packs did for all 12 species as a build up to the final pack of PZ on May the 7th.
Scenery, Animal and 12 animal are all possible, although we've never had a gap between announce and launch as short as 5 days, so the pack could have more, and since we just got an animal pack in the winter...So we are assumings is going to be 12 species? Ok, i like that.
Yes, and it always has been.Is the "always in aviaries in rl" argument even that valid?
Not really relevant. There are tools in the game to contain any habitat animal within a faux enclosed habitat, or not. Many zoos still keep flamingos, cranes, and so on in open-air habitats.I get that mindset, but I think some of the more recent pushes in zoological facilities to keep flamingos and other birds in mesh in closures can dispute that a little.
No it isn't.The realism argument in a game about giving as much creative freedom as possible is also a moot discussion.
Why? How is that remotely relevant? It's just a stupid deflection.Show me a sandcat in an open topped enclosure
I think there is a missunderstanding here. What people refered to was stuff like crowned pigeons, which are pretty much exclusively found in aviaries in real life but dont really fly, so would work as habitat animals without looking weird.Yes, and it always has been.
Not really relevant. There are tools in the game to contain any habitat animal within a faux enclosed habitat, or not. Many zoos still keep flamingos, cranes, and so on in open-air habitats.
No it isn't.
Why? How is that remotely relevant? It's just a stupid deflection.
Seriously, I sometimes wonder about you lot.
If containment wasn't a problem, why did they make a special new exhibit type for flying animals? They could have just made the bats into a habitat animal and said "deal with it". They didn't, because they aren't stupid, and they know that would be stupid no matter which way you look at it. It is mind-bogglingly obvious that it matters to them.
They could, at any point, have given us flying birds in the WTE, but they haven't. It's exceedingly unlikely they're saving that for last, because even if it is birds, a pack full of exhibit animals is not the send off that most people want; this forum is exceptionally good at thinking it's the only voice in the community, but it's not. So there has got to be a reason. There are only two reasons that make any sense from my perspective:
Owls, puffins, parrots, bats, butterflies, whatever, it doesn't matter, it's all the same.
- They do not believe the exihibit system will do birds justice. IMO this is unlikely, because it would require viewing birds through a weird lens. Big, crowd-drawing birds get their charisma from their appearance first and foremost, and their unique qualities secondly, and neither of these requires them to do much more than an exhibit animal. Birds don't spend all their time flitting about from here to there, and even in real aviaries they tend to remain in one place or walk or climb or just jump to wherever they feel the need to go.
- They know that birds will be a big selling point for a future game that will start with less than we're finishing on. That is to say, a sequel is not going to contain all 200 or whatever species in the current game. That would be an absurd expectation. So they would need something to soften the blow of the fact that we will be expected to repurchase animals we already got in version one as DLC in version two. It's still conjecture, but it follows common business practice. Because Frontier is a business. Not a group of do-gooders gettng giddy for giving a bunch of nerds on the internet what they want.
No one knows for sure I think it will be a simultaneous release since they would have already known console was happening before the packs release so could therefore plan more effectively and im sure that if the gift shops werent a complete an utter flop on pc console would have got them on release so that they are as in sync as possible.Has this come up? I assumed it was a given that console players would be waiting a while longer. That's just the way of things; a new platform comes with new challenges for Frontier to work out. They'll release the update for PC first and then port it over and make necessary changes (the DLC itself is neither here nor there, I suppose, since the DLC's only contain content).
Some time honored traditions never die!Really with 1 week left to go until a new pack and now we’re arguing about birds smh
There are a ton of birds that can fit into this bin: can fly but spend enough time on the ground to make it work in PZ. Like I said, if someone wants to make a square box and throw some animals in they can. If others want to make the ultra detailed habitat, they can do.I think the reason most animals are categorised into Habitat or WTE is their main form of locomotion, not for any aspect of realism. Like the bats, they wouldn’t work as a habitat animal because of the WAY THEY MOVE, not because they need to be kept in closed enclosures - that’s why we have a null button for the WTE, right? So we can have creative freedom disregarding all realism aspects if we WANT to.
If all animals in the WTE HAD to be kept in closed top enclosures, we wouldn’t have the sloth in there. The reason they put it as a WTE animal is because that’s what best fits its way of movement.
In a similar way, wading birds and terrestrial birds can 100% be introduced as habitat animals if Frontier wanted. Birds like the Victoria Crowned Pigeon, Scarlet Ibis, Roseate Spoonbill… sure, they can fly. But their main form of locomotion is walking or wading, a characteristic which needs the habitat mechanics to function. This also extends to the burrowing owl, which can fly, but can also run around on its legs. It would work perfectly fine as a habitat animal, much like other wading or primarily terrestrial flying birds.
I got a fun idea
So your idea of fun is making me do math?Please tally these up and let us see what is the most discussed
Memes I guarantee it lol
Sure. My imagination tells me JWE2 will gambleJust imagine this: a JWE2: Pterosaur Pack (like the marine species pack) and a Planet Zoo Birds Expansion. 2 flying species dlcs for both games. DOUBLE TROUBLE BABY!!!
That is a matter of behavior not containment. They literally explained this when they released the sloth. An animal that can be kept in open enclosures yet is in the exhibit, because of how it movesIf containment wasn't a problem, why did they make a special new exhibit type for flying animals? They could have just made the bats into a habitat animal and said "deal with it". They didn't, because they aren't stupid, and they know that would be stupid no matter which way you look at it. It is mind-bogglingly obvious that it matters to them.
The next ones have already been announced, so I don't think it's going to be a console edition update.Everyone is excited, but it's just mentioned "news for Planet Zoo". Why it couldn't be just an announcement of the next DLCs unlocked for the Console Edition ?