Spring dlc Speculation 2023

The Sumatran Tiger is a strong contender for one of the places in an Island themed pack.

reasoning for it

1. Its a feline
2. Offers a larger option of animal to balance all the ankle biter's suggested
3. Shepreth
4. Tiger's been done before so doesn't require a new rig.
5. It's a tiger. People love tigers. No reasonable person will be upset by it's inclusion.
The Sumatran Tiger is a Strong Contender to be the most unnessecary and redundant animal to wish for.
Literally just use a small bengal tiger, even clones would have so many better ones like american flamingo, cuban crocodile, a fur seal, etc
 
I feel like SA is so underrepresented that it has two tiers of essential animals. They get lost in the shuffle because there are so many missing from South America that the votes get split. There is the prime tier of the most popular things that would start to correct the balance, and the second tier that starts to resemble the missing species from other continents (Tasmanian devil, tree kangaroo, dromedary, red river hog, fossa, takin, etc.).

1st tier: Really basic zoo animals that are popularly requested:
  • Sloth: most requested animal
  • Coati: very popular animal
  • Howler Monkey: not as common in zoos as some others, but has sound effects. A bigger SA monkey is needed.
  • Tamarins: There are a few great options, common in zoos, could be an exhibit animal, a smaller SA monkey is needed
  • A tropical bird (Spoonbill, Ibis?, etc.): after the emu, something a little more unique might take slight priority, a bird is needed
  • Spectacled Bear: Andes and 1st South American Bear, zoo tycoon 2
  • Ocelot: most popular small cat
2nd tier: essential animals that are on the same level as the critical needs of other continents (Tasmanian devil, tree kangaroo, dromedary, red river hog, fossa, takin, etc.), useful for showcasing diverse regions, popular and common in zoos
  • Spider Monkey: A very popular monkey with a unique appearance and movements
  • Mara: desert and grasslands staple
  • Manatee: might not work, but a lot of people want it
  • Collared Peccary: staple for many biomes
  • Rhea: grasslands staple
  • Tamandua: good alternative if sloth doesn't work or is an exhibit animal
  • Squirrel Monkey: decently popular and very common in zoos. probably one of the biggest bang for your buck clones (capuchin), in my opinion
  • A deer?: not as popular, but I'm bumping this up because there are so many deer species in SA. It would be very weird not to have one
  • Argentine Tegu?: if they could get it to work in a habitat, good desert rep and a unique reptile, bumping it up for diverse region/reptile rep.
3rd tier: not as popular, but still good choices. I don't expect them all, but it would be awesome:
  • Other Monkeys: Uakari, Saki, Marmosets, maybe even night, titi or wooly
  • Other arboreal species: Brazilian porcupine, Kinkajou
  • Other ungulates: another deer, tapir, and camelid could be useful
  • Other birds: some good options
  • Other carnivores: bush dog, a fox, another small cat
 
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I feel like SA is so underrepresented that it has two tiers of essential animals. They get lost in the shuffle because there are so many missing from South America that the votes get split. There is the prime tier of the most popular things that would start to correct the balance, and the second tier that starts to resemble the missing species from other continents (Tasmanian devil, tree kangaroo, dromedary, red river hog, fossa, takin, etc.).

1st tier: Really basic zoo animals that are popularly requested:
  • Sloth: most requested animal
  • Coati: very popular animal
  • Howler Monkey: not as common in zoos as some others, but has sound effects. A bigger SA monkey is needed.
  • Tamarins: There are a few great options, common in zoos, could be an exhibit animal, a smaller SA monkey is needed
  • A tropical bird (Spoonbill, Ibis?, etc.): after the emu, something a little more unique might take slight priority, a bird is needed
  • Spectacled Bear: Andes and 1st South American Bear, zoo tycoon 2
  • Ocelot: most popular small cat
2nd tier: essential animals that are on the same level as the critical needs of other continents (Tasmanian devil, tree kangaroo, dromedary, red river hog, fossa, takin, etc.), useful for showcasing diverse regions, popular and common in zoos
  • Spider Monkey: A very popular monkey with a unique appearance and movements
  • Mara: desert and grasslands staple
  • Manatee: might not work, but a lot of people want it
  • Collared Peccary: staple for many biomes
  • Rhea: grasslands staple
  • Tamandua: good alternative if sloth doesn't work or is an exhibit animal
  • Squirrel Monkey: decently popular and very common in zoos. probably one of the biggest bang for your buck clones (capuchin), in my opinion
  • A deer?: not as popular, but I'm bumping this up because there are so many deer species in SA. It would be very weird not to have one
  • Argentine Tegu?: if they could get it to work in a habitat, good desert rep and a unique reptile, bumping it up for diverse region/reptile rep.
3rd tier: not as popular, but still good choices. I don't expect them all, but it would be awesome:
  • Other Monkeys: Uakari, Saki, Marmosets, maybe even night, titi or wooly
  • Other arboreal species: Brazilian porcupine, Kinkajou
  • Other ungulates: another deer, tapir, and camelid could be useful
  • Other birds: some good options
  • Other carnivores: bush dog, a fox, another small cat
That's a pretty good summation. Trying to be objective as possible with this, I truly think what's needed most mammal wise from South America is the Sloth and more primates. I think that's objective, I don't personally "need" any additional primates, because beyond the apes, I'm just not much of a primate person (no pun intended). But I completely recognize they are essential for many many people. The Sloth of course...goes without saying that it's on the same level of more primates.
 
I kind of want to go back to the porcupine discussion, as weren't they mentioned in the files? Tell me if I'm wrong but, wasn't the general consensus that they were a scrapped animal? I still think it would be interesting to discuss. I'm personally team African crested or cape because they are so iconic and pretty popular in zoos. However, I have seen Indian crested, North American, and prehensile-tailed porcupines discuss as well. I'm just thinking that since the African crested porcupine is number two on the 2023 meta, that it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them in the next DLC.
 
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I kind of want to go back to the porcupine discussion, as weren't they mentioned in the files? Tell me if I'm wrong but, wasn't the general consensus that they were a scrapped animal? I still think it would be interesting to discuss. I'm personally team African crested or cape because they are so iconic and pretty popular in zoos. However, I have seen Indian crested, North American, and prehensile-tailed porcupines discuss as well. I'm just thinking that since the African crested porcupine is number two on the 2023 meta, that it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them in the next DLC?
I may be mis-remembering things, but there was a folder found called Porcupines - I guess nothing was in it though...not sure. It may have been a scrapped animal, as it was created a bit of time ago. It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them but I think at this point expecting them simply because that folder exists may not add to them definitely being included.

At any rate, they're definitely highly requested. I think most are asking for the Crested, including myself, but I'd also be okay with the Cape or Indian Porcupine. Old World at any rate. It'd certainly be great to get a new world porcupine as well though. North American or Brazilian are options, the Brazilian in particular looks very different from the other more discussed species. But IMO I'd rather see an Old World species first/instead.
 
The Sumatran Tiger is a strong contender for one of the places in an Island themed pack.

reasoning for it

1. Its a feline
2. Offers a larger option of animal to balance all the ankle biter's suggested
3. Shepreth
4. Tiger's been done before so doesn't require a new rig.
5. It's a tiger. People love tigers. No reasonable person will be upset by its inclusion.
IMO another tiger would be a massive, massive waste. Even for “clones” it’s a struggle to think of a worse, less interesting option.
 
I kind of want to go back to the porcupine discussion, as weren't they mentioned in the files? Tell me if I'm wrong but, wasn't the general consensus that they were a scrapped animal? I still think it would be interesting to discuss. I'm personally team African crested or cape because they are so iconic and pretty popular in zoos. However, I have seen Indian crested, North American, and prehensile-tailed porcupines discuss as well. I'm just thinking that since the African crested porcupine is number two on the 2023 meta, that it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them in the next DLC.
when I see the word "porcupine" I wake up LOL, but yeah there been something with porcupine in the files it been I think an folder from what I remember, so it doesn't say anything about species to expect even though a lot of the times in data mined stuff are wrong, or frontier change their plan. so that's not should be confirmed or something like that, but the fact that the African Crested Porcupine is on the top of every community wishlist, well It's say a LOT.

I know a lot of the people's thinks that the Tasmanian Devil would be the next animal from the 10 top that will come in the upcoming dlc (by the way we are 2 weeks way from news probably, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!) so I think that porcupine might be even more likely then Tasmanian Devil for possible Children's Zoo Pack. so I think porcupine has to come this year, mostly if frontier love me lol! what species, please, just please Old World Porcupine (Indian,African, Cape) It's not like I don't like the New World Porcupine, but for example I prefer to get Indian, African,Cape Porcupine instead of just getting the North American Porcupine or the Prehensile-Tailed Porcupine, I do not kidding. I would love to see the African Crested Porcupine and the North American Porcupine to get Old World and New World representation. but I think porcupine HAS to come this year!!
 
when I see the word "porcupine" I wake up LOL, but yeah there been something with porcupine in the files it been I think an folder from what I remember, so it doesn't say anything about species to expect even though a lot of the times in data mined stuff are wrong, or frontier change their plan. so that's not should be confirmed or something like that, but the fact that the African Crested Porcupine is on the top of every community wishlist, well It's say a LOT.

I know a lot of the people's thinks that the Tasmanian Devil would be the next animal from the 10 top that will come in the upcoming dlc (by the way we are 2 weeks way from news probably, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!) so I think that porcupine might be even more likely then Tasmanian Devil for possible Children's Zoo Pack. so I think porcupine has to come this year, mostly if frontier love me lol! what species, please, just please Old World Porcupine (Indian,African, Cape) It's not like I don't like the New World Porcupine, but for example I prefer to get Indian, African,Cape Porcupine instead of just getting the North American Porcupine or the Prehensile-Tailed Porcupine, I do not kidding. I would love to see the African Crested Porcupine and the North American Porcupine to get Old World and New World representation. but I think porcupine HAS to come this year!!
I was just about to say this! I would love to have both an old and a new world porcupine. I personally would rather have a Prehensile-Tailed Porcupine over a North American Porcupine. But for me and seemingly the rest of the community, an old world Porcupine is first priority.

I know! Only two weeks till news potentially! If for whatever reason they release it after Easter, presumably on the 11th, I may have an existential crisis. 😂 The spring dlcs always seem to have my favorite animals (which I guess are primarily tropical). Crossing my fingers for another solid animal pack! I'm open to a good old Frontier monkey wrench though! We'll have wait and see!
 
Yeah, it's hard to say if the Porcupine will come before the Tasmanian Devil. Depending on theme - obviously. An islands pack without the Tasmanian Devil...I cannot imagine the forum reaction here. Same as a Rainforest pack without a Sloth - though I still have this suspicion that will be the Q2 pack (or some similar theme). Porcupines being left out of the grasslands pack really threw me off. It's still the animal we don't have yet that I think of most though when I think dryer climates though not deserts.
 
The Sumatran Tiger is a strong contender for one of the places in an Island themed pack.

reasoning for it

1. Its a feline
2. Offers a larger option of animal to balance all the ankle biter's suggested
3. Shepreth
4. Tiger's been done before so doesn't require a new rig.
5. It's a tiger. People love tigers. No reasonable person will be upset by it's inclusion.
It being a feline is not a good argument when me and a lot of other players don't really want more Felines. And the ones we do want are things like the pallas cat that don't cover really close to what we already have. I would be really annoyed if they put the Sumatran in pack because I wouldn't want to be paying my money for it
 
The Sumatran Tiger is a Strong Contender to be the most unnessecary and redundant animal to wish for.
Literally just use a small bengal tiger, even clones would have so many better ones like american flamingo, cuban crocodile, a fur seal, etc
Wouldn't call the Cuban croc a clone with its weird forms of locomotion along with fact we don't have a medium sized croc yet. If we got third caiman or a Nile crocodile now that would be clone.
 
After all the talk/speculation about the latest pack, I think I'm starting to lean into the "islands" predictions a bit. It would definitely allow them to work in more highly requested animals.

But I also can't help but wonder if we might be in for a Wetlands/Twilight Pack scenario at the same time. That is, we might be on the right track with the kind of animals we'll be getting (e.g., Tasmanian devils, tree kangaroos, etc.) but the pack name and theme are going to be slightly different than we might anticipate.

I'm also leaning into this because, I dunno, when you say "islands" does it really evoke images of the kinds of animals people are speculating? I've seen a few videos from content creators talking about it - and the images they use are all coastal beaches and palm trees which... Isn't what I think of when I think of the Tasmanian devil, tree kangaroo, kiwi, etc. But it's definitely what comes to mind when I hear the word "islands." Hah!
 
For the average player? No not in a million years will a Tasmanian devil appear in their minds
What's animals are likely gonna pop up when we have tropical beaches and palm trees? Sea turtles, American Flamingos, manatees , tropical birds ha even sharks or stingrays if being adventurous
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I think people might be on the right track with the type of animals we'll be getting. But I'm not sure how well "islands" holds up as a theme in terms of how it might be presented for the marketing or whatever that might surround it. I'd imagine they could do it and just come up with a different name for it that people aren't using. Haha. (Or the pack will actually include some coastal animals too that folks are talking about less!)

Or get creative with the video footage or whatever. Like, showing the coast and then "zooming in" to where the animals actually live.
 
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