Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

So if you buy (with real money) some in game cash, it is not available to you in game?
It sounds like those who bought in game cash in the past and had it in game, are now losing it as well.
... and on the website where you buy the cash (which is still for sale) it says nothing about this.

:oops:

CIG should offer refunds.
 
UEC (for release) bought give also aUEC (for the test universe).

It's a bug for this patch.
Some reports of aUEC differences between 3.9.x and 3.10. Character Resets will not resolve this issue. We can only recommend playing as normal while we investigate.
 
UEC (for release) bought give also aUEC (for the test universe).

It's a bug for this patch.
Some reports of aUEC differences between 3.9.x and 3.10. Character Resets will not resolve this issue. We can only recommend playing as normal while we investigate.

And as support said, no guarantees it will be fixed any time soon.

In other news... checking for morning wood when waking up results in death.


Looks like the ship was under attack or something.
 
You mean thank god there was a publisher at hand who took over and pumped more money and time into it to get it to a releasable state? Yeah, thats not going to happen with Star Citizen this time around. I just cannot imagine anybody competent tackling this. Somebody who understands the complications and the issues at hand. Also regardless how the faithful drone on about "take as much time as you need" and staying positive....I just dont see them continouing to support the project once Chris leaves, mainly because the new guy would probably not keep on doing what CIG did so far (string people along) but make some hard decisions and "get to town" if creating the game really is the priority. And suddenly, once development turns realistic I m betting it also will lose a lot of appeal.

The way they presented their videos a few years ago, you'd think any competent producer could pop out what they were saying they would, easily. And the gist, I seemed to pick up, is that they're fully capable of producing, at the least, a few working star systems, and maybe already have. The difference, if someone else were to take over, is maybe they would be competent and stick to their word and just do what these folks have presented as being 'easy' to do. Instead of how things seem, which is "hey guys, lets hold off and sell a few more ships". Which, ultimately, CR and company are very successful at. But maybe someone else would be competent in delivering the game...maybe someone not content with selling a few ships to make a few dollars, but realizing making a working game would make them way more money...nudge nudge. Anyways, my main point is that it's possible anyone else, who picked this up, may be able to pop out a game, easier than CI has made it appear for so long.
 
In other news... checking for morning wood when waking up results in death.


Looks like the ship was under attack or something.

Had nearly the exact same thing happen to me tonight. Was server hopping trying to get a server with the Execution missions.

Log out in bed. Log back in on new server. Im wanted and the server spawns a npc cop right next to me that is shooting at the ship and it takes 5 minutes to get out of bed.

Didnt die though.
 
and this is now a week old......

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The way they presented their videos a few years ago, you'd think any competent producer could pop out what they were saying they would, easily. And the gist, I seemed to pick up, is that they're fully capable of producing, at the least, a few working star systems, and maybe already have. The difference, if someone else were to take over, is maybe they would be competent and stick to their word and just do what these folks have presented as being 'easy' to do. Instead of how things seem, which is "hey guys, lets hold off and sell a few more ships". Which, ultimately, CR and company are very successful at. But maybe someone else would be competent in delivering the game...maybe someone not content with selling a few ships to make a few dollars, but realizing making a working game would make them way more money...nudge nudge. Anyways, my main point is that it's possible anyone else, who picked this up, may be able to pop out a game, easier than CI has made it appear for so long.

The thing about a dream or fantasy is that it has to be unrealistic and/or impossible, thats what makes it so attractive in the first place. Usually as soon as you get what you want you stop wanting it and look for something else to "want". And my own experience with video games in particular mirrors this. I wait for years on end hyping myself up for some new title lingering just outside my reach. I put in time and effort to research or participate in the community and once the game actually releases I go off on a playing frenzy for x hours but its already not as good as I expected it to be. Harsh cold reality corrects my expectations swiftly and leaves me with small disappointments, doesnt mean I will deem the game a failure but its already not as perfect as I envisioned it and the allure for it suffers. After a certain period of time when I saw most of what the game has to offer I play it less and look for something new to fantasize about. The latest "fiasco" for me was Borderlands 3. Its a good game....just not as good as I hoped it would be and I only have myself to blame for that really.

For most video games this cycle is rather short as publishers usually announce games when they are about to release within 6 months, these periods have extended to a year by now and we can assume it ll only become longer but this happens gradually. The risk is of course to get beaten by the competition while your own game is still under development or that your audience gets tired of getting teased and wanders off frustrated and angry.

In this regard Star Citizen really is pushing frontiers as they keep adding more and more development time and continue to tease with more and better stuff without ever achieving their previous claims. At some point in the past this cycle became kind of ridiculous because they cannot succeed within the parameters they created themselves. The only way I can see CIG pulling this off is if the whole display of incompetence, unreliability and deception surrounding this project is all tailored and mean to be an epic prank of some sort meaning the developers want the project to come across like a joke and laugh at the community and world at large who tries to make sense of all this.

....but thats as insane as believing that Star Citizen will succeed as advertised.

You are correct, CIG has always been great at talking. Chris has a knack for it to sell stuff infecting you with excitement or coming across like a small boy who really wants to do this. It might be his own folly or it might be calculated deception. Doesnt really matter. The results so far coming out of CIG speak very clearly and put all the talking to shame. Reality over fantasy.

Its fascinating to watch so many people clinging to fantasy trying to avoid reality as long as possible coming up with rather creative ways to dismiss the cold, hard truth but its not going away.
 
The thing about a dream or fantasy is that it has to be unrealistic and/or impossible, thats what makes it so attractive in the first place. Usually as soon as you get what you want you stop wanting it and look for something else to "want". And my own experience with video games in particular mirrors this. I wait for years on end hyping myself up for some new title lingering just outside my reach. I put in time and effort to research or participate in the community and once the game actually releases I go off on a playing frenzy for x hours but its already not as good as I expected it to be. Harsh cold reality corrects my expectations swiftly and leaves me with small disappointments, doesnt mean I will deem the game a failure but its already not as perfect as I envisioned it and the allure for it suffers. After a certain period of time when I saw most of what the game has to offer I play it less and look for something new to fantasize about. The latest "fiasco" for me was Borderlands 3. Its a good game....just not as good as I hoped it would be and I only have myself to blame for that really.

For most video games this cycle is rather short as publishers usually announce games when they are about to release within 6 months, these periods have extended to a year by now and we can assume it ll only become longer but this happens gradually. The risk is of course to get beaten by the competition while your own game is still under development or that your audience gets tired of getting teased and wanders off frustrated and angry.

In this regard Star Citizen really is pushing frontiers as they keep adding more and more development time and continue to tease with more and better stuff without ever achieving their previous claims. At some point in the past this cycle became kind of ridiculous because they cannot succeed within the parameters they created themselves. The only way I can see CIG pulling this off is if the whole display of incompetence, unreliability and deception surrounding this project is all tailored and mean to be an epic prank of some sort meaning the developers want the project to come across like a joke and laugh at the community and world at large who tries to make sense of all this.

....but thats as insane as believing that Star Citizen will succeed as advertised.

You are correct, CIG has always been great at talking. Chris has a knack for it to sell stuff infecting you with excitement or coming across like a small boy who really wants to do this. It might be his own folly or it might be calculated deception. Doesnt really matter. The results so far coming out of CIG speak very clearly and put all the talking to shame. Reality over fantasy.

Its fascinating to watch so many people clinging to fantasy trying to avoid reality as long as possible coming up with rather creative ways to dismiss the cold, hard truth but its not going away.

Well, I guess many cling to broken marriages as well.
 
8 years and nothing to show for. Not even a roadmap. That is so utter ridiculous - it's incomprehensible how people still buy their nonsense after being lied to again and again.

I beg to differ. There is a product. Its not a complete game and its lacking in every aspect but there is something. Its value is subject to individual evaluation so it ranges from "its great, I m having fun" to "this sucks, what is this crap?" and they all are valid/legit. What we do in this forum doesnt change what it is, it usally adresses absolute claims like "already better then game X" or "this is a scam" and without any definite answers from CIG (because....most transparent project....NOT) this will not change until CIG bothers to provide clear answers and that wont happen until the project collapses.

Even without absolute answers we do have logical conclusions and a history of facts and sorry to say, they ALL are pretty bad which puts faith and hope into the realm of fanatical or naive at this point. The absolute best thing that I saw people say was "this is promising" which isnt the same as "this is great".. Oh sure there are enough claims of "this is great" floating around but usually the people who say that have proven to have no credibility and are probably just trying to win the argument or troll or shill. Whenever such a claim is made, its challenged and the replies dont really support the claim


Well, I guess many cling to broken marriages as well.

Well yeah, sunk cost fallacy is a "thing" in life, that why it has its own term. I just never have seen it to this extent in regards to a video game. Usually I tie the term to financial investments but Star Citizen shows that you dont need to have money into something in order to become borderline psychotic/fanatic. Religion operates on the same premise.
 
Had nearly the exact same thing happen to me tonight. Was server hopping trying to get a server with the Execution missions.

Log out in bed. Log back in on new server. Im wanted and the server spawns a npc cop right next to me that is shooting at the ship and it takes 5 minutes to get out of bed.

Didnt die though.

You were sleeping, Citizen. Sleeping equals death. Or fate worse than death.

Alas, recite five Stimpire copypasta and bow towards Stimperor thirteen times and you shall be forgiven.
 
Funny slip of the tongue over on spectrum

just read the monthly report of july .. they are finishing alot of important stuff that might not be listed as "content" but thats needed to improve the game in the long run... we are tallking about vulkan, i cash stuff.. networking.. you name it. People are just to focused on "gameplay" , "gameloops" and "mechanics".

I think he meant to say iCache, but i cash is funnier and truer!
 
Opposing threads.



All will be fine when CIG implement the PvP slider!
 
Trying to make sense of the below statement. Is it taking them 96 hours (48 hours before and after a release) to import player data into the new (released) version of their database?
At this time, any pledge creation (new ships) or alteration (CCU's) performed 48 hours before or after patch 3.10 deployment, will not be reflected in the Live Service. Any new pledges, CCU applications, reclaimed pledges, or gifts sent/received will not be up to date.

A Character Reset will resolve this issue up to the point the reset was initiated, but any new pledge alterations will not be reflected in the Live Service until another reset is performed or a hotfix is deployed.
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LOL, such innocence.

I think in general murder hobos won't exist in the released version of the PU. Currently they exist because theres no other way to really get involved in PvP in the PU. Or reason really to do it. So if you want to PvP in the PU you don't really have many options. Especially for lawful players

Once reasons to do it we'll probably see a stop the murder hoboing. Why attack this dude with nothing on him when you could attack the cargo ship with expensive goods? And that will create a market for hired escorts to protect you. So it'll probably level out. There will always be some degree of it, however with the law system even in its current state why get a crime stat for nothing if you could get it for something.
 
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