Given Robert's caution, I'm just going say that classifying refusal to use pronouns with hate speech and making it punishable by law is a dramatic over reaction and the opposite of free speech. If I don't want to call you a panther, or a peanut butter sandwich just because you insist that you are one, nobody should be able to make me or punish me if I refuse.I was just going to ask what your issue was with it. Thanks for anticipating my question.
Naturally, I've got zero expertise in Canadian law so hey ho that's fine we're just people talking anyway. That said, from what I read there I don't see any major problem with it. Peterson's critique really seems like a stretch, especially when the article explains the change like this:
Most relevant bit bolded for clarity. What exactly does Peterson think would happen?
Aye. Bill Burr is great. Has a pretty neat podcast he's running for the last decade or something like that. Usually just discusses random stuff, his career, relationships, society, culture, music, just wacky stories from his life etc.I watched this last week and to be honest i didnt find it really that funny and i typically love Dark humour ( im a massive fan of Bill Hicks and Bob Stanhope).
But i do applaud the fact that it got made and he said the things he did, because outrage culture typically kills things like this.
Im a big fan of Bill Burr also, he has a new standup coming to Netflix soon and apparently he tackles PC/outrage culture in it which im really looking forward to.
I saw him live back in the mid 90's. Oh how things have changed and not for the better.In England few years back there was a comedian named Bernard Manning - the scourge of the PC brigade - when asked why he was so prejudiced he said
"I'm not prejudiced - I hate everybody".
Made me laugh at the time, and the last 30 years or so I've been saddened by the onward march of Politically Correct Fascism and its effect on free speech everywhere.
Same here, it was OK but he didn't really keep my attention.I watched this last week and to be honest i didnt find it really that funny and i typically love Dark humour ( im a massive fan of Bill Hicks and Bob Stanhope).
He wants people to have a problem with it, its a fairly common gimmick in standup.Dave Chappel is easily 2 of my top 5 favorite comedians. I can't understand how anyone could have a problem with stand up comedy. That's like saying you don't like to smile, laugh, or otherwise enjoy yourself.
"Cancel culture" just comes across to me as "I said something heinous and now the advertisers aren't paying me, I thought this was a free country", like nobody's arresting him or anything for his bit, they're just... disapproving. Free speech versus free speech, freedom of speech isn't freedom from criticism, etc etc etc. I'd be interested to see whether Chapelle would have the same reaction to a white comedian dropping a bunch of racist jokes.Watching this now. Have not seen Sticks and Stones yet.
I wonder how Boyle's Last Days of Sodom would go.
EDIT: Got about half way through. They got into that podcast thing where they say the same thing over and over and I can only take so much of that. More of a critique of style than content, but there you go.
I'm not comfortable at all with the idea of a "Cancel Culture." First time I've heard that phrase. Comedians gonna comedian. In fact, I see them as the modern equivalent of the prophets of old saying the uncomfortable truths the rest of us can't or won't.
I'm not transsexual either, so I can't really say how I'd take the joke. As a person from a white, male middle class US Midwestern background I do laugh my butt off at jokes of which I'm the butt of. It's good to be self aware and have a sense of humor. That said, I hardly have any real idea what the transsexual experience is like but I suspect there are more than a few transsexual people that enjoyed the show.
No group being a monolith, after all. I may investigate those voices and post about it.
This is a good point. When you attach what you say to your paycheck be careful you haven't made a deal with the devil."I said something heinous and now the advertisers aren't paying me, I thought this was a free country"