"System scan complete" should include asteroid belts

Mephane

Mephane
Basically, whenever I jump to an unexplored system and after the honk it says "system scan complete" I cannot trust this message at all. I have to stop and check in FSS mode whether there are asteroid belt clusters to scan, especially if it is a system with multiple stars since belts around distant stars are not immediately scanned by mere proximity. Certainly I cannot be alone in not considering a system fully scanned unless all belt clusters are scanned, too?

So please have the computer only say the message when all belt clusters are scanned, too.

P.S.: While we are at it, how come the big exploration rework didn't let them yield at least some credits?
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
Agreed.

The "first to scan entire system" bonus includes the asteroid belts. So if you skip the belts, you don't get the bonus, even though you've gotten the "system scan complete" message. People who ignore the belts are leaving tens of thousands of credits per system on the table.
 

Thwarptide

Banned
Thwarptide
Well, FSS scan the everything. Get the bonus.
I certainly don't wait for geographic fine tuning scans. They don't pay out, unless I'm interested in doing a lil Prospecting.
 

varonica

varonica
BradHann said:
They appear on the system map even when you haven't FSS'd them. I've always found that a little odd.
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The asteroid belts always get revealed with the honk, the asteroid "clusters" need to be scanned with the FSS to get your name on them. It seems rather strange that the belt itself doesn't get your name with the honk, but that's pretty consistent with the planets and moons, not getting your name unless you scan them with the FSS, but odd in that the fields themselves are revealed by the honk. It looks like a leftover from the ADS, they just didn't know what to do with the asteroid belts and clusters I guess.
 

varonica

varonica
Para Handy said:
That is not so is it? Belts further away and those around secondary stars are not revealed / discovered by the honk are they?
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Yes they are, always, no matter how far away, it's just the clusters that aren't revealed, you have to scan them using the FSS.
 

iain666

iain666
varonica said:
The asteroid belts always get revealed with the honk, the asteroid "clusters" need to be scanned with the FSS to get your name on them. It seems rather strange that the belt itself doesn't get your name with the honk, but that's pretty consistent with the planets and moons, not getting your name unless you scan them with the FSS, but odd in that the fields themselves are revealed by the honk. It looks like a leftover from the ADS, they just didn't know what to do with the asteroid belts and clusters I guess.
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I think it might be not so much that they're revealed by the honk in any meaningful way - I assume you can't target them from the left hand panel for example (although they've been filtered out of mine since it was an option) - but rather that nobody bothered to separate their drawing on the system map from the drawing of their parent star.
 

varonica

varonica
iain666 said:
I think it might be not so much that they're revealed by the honk in any meaningful way - I assume you can't target them from the left hand panel for example (although they've been filtered out of mine since it was an option) - but rather that nobody bothered to separate their drawing on the system map from the drawing of their parent star.
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That might be true, however asteroid fields that exist around a barycenter also show at the honk, so it can't be star based. Once they are revealed by the honk there are some basic details about them available on the system map, mass I think. I just need to do some quick checks. Hmm remarkable how suitable systems suddenly become hard to find, but I can confirm that before the FSS is used to scan clusters you can select and target asteroid fields, although it appears only to select cluster 1, I just spent half an hour jumping from system to system trying to find a secondary star with an asteroid field and did 30 odd jumps and couldn't find one, I'll come back to this later.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
varonica said:
Yes they are, always, no matter how far away, it's just the clusters that aren't revealed, you have to scan them using the FSS.
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I misunderstood your earlier point - you meant that the belts are always displayed on the system map even if they are not resolved in the FSS screen which is what I meant about them not being "discovered" - the use of "revealed" threw me. Yes I agree and that is daft.
 

varonica

varonica
Para Handy said:
I misunderstood your earlier point - you meant that the belts are always displayed on the system map even if they are not resolved in the FSS screen which is what I meant about them not being "discovered" - the use of "revealed" threw me. Yes I agree and that is daft.
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No problems, I also note that you can target asteroid belts that haven't been "discovered" by the FSS which strongly indicates the asteroid belts are a thing in themseves separate from the clusters they contain.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
varonica said:
No problems, I also note that you can target asteroid belts that haven't been "discovered" by the FSS which strongly indicates the asteroid belts are a thing in themseves separate from the clusters they contain.
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Asteroid belts are treated by the game as "rings" around stars - as is evident by their portrayal on the orrery map, and how they will cause a supercruise SLOW DOWN when passing through or near them.
 

Dr. Nagi

Dr. Nagi
Uhm no, please don't make this a thing. I'd hate it when I get to a new system and at a honk it would then say "x bodies" and then they're all asteroid belts. Nope. Don't like that idea.
 

varonica

varonica
Sapyx said:
Asteroid belts are treated by the game as "rings" around stars - as is evident by their portrayal on the orrery map, and how they will cause a supercruise SLOW DOWN when passing through or near them.
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Except you can't target rings around planets unless there is target available, there is a lot of inconsistent behaviour from asteroid belts.
 
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