I can't see many (any ?) Cmdrs saying the old system was better. A lot saying FD missed the point with this major patch. FSS being better than ADS doesn't mean it's good enough.
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I can't see many (any ?) Cmdrs saying the old system was better. A lot saying FD missed the point with this major patch. FSS being better than ADS doesn't mean it's good enough.
When people say its better, they means it's interesting and fun to use. Not sure how that is a bad thing to be honest.
I concur.
So much for jumping into a system and appreciating that some CMDR tagged a body 300+KLS in SC.
At least FD is consistent in devaluing everything an individual CMDR does.
So it goes...
First discovered opportunities on stars will cease to exist rather quickly
Instead you can appreciate that fact that he has mapped that/those planet/s instead.
I don't think so as you still need to visit the places to get the first mapped by tag. Nothing is being devalued.
As we have only discovered less then 0.2% of the galaxy in ED, I think first discovered opportunites of stars is not going to change that much.
What a windfall for BH/NS farming
First discovered tags pre-FSS will be indistinguishable from those tagged with FSS
It won't be long before you'll need to travel 10KLY to find an untagged star.
Devaluation - no one will appreciate anymore that someone flew in SC hundreds of thousands of ls's just to tag some insignificant rock, just to put a tag on it.
I did just that last night in Live, flew 340KLs to a secondary star as it had all of the bodies in the system - so tagged everything as I was already there, most of it being rocks or ice balls - 1 HMC with volcanism and landable, a couple of happy hours SRVing didn't turn up any volcano sites, more's the pity!
Will anyone appreciate the effort - of course not, the same as finding a system where only the 'valuable' bodies have been tagged... (not even the main star
) People will just jump on to their next destination.I'll admit that playing in Live the last couple of days perfectly illustrated the usefulness of the new system in knowing exactly what is in a system. It would have been great to find the Geo/possibly Bio signals in any of the candidate systems I visited in my little trip out!
Is that an issue?
No it won't. You are talking about billions of stars. Not possible even if everyone that plays becomes an explorer. What a ridiculous thing to say. Even now I am finding stars that haven't been tagged only 5-600 ly away from the bubble. The tourist routes are all used up, but in between there is tons that hasn't been explored at all.
Oh, if someone did that with the old style. Is that really important? Most of the time I saw them and thought they were crazy.
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That is true - my little jaunt in Live ended around 1200LY from the bubble, after passing the 700LY mark there were far more unexplored (or only star tagged) systems than not - I came back with a 100 or so 'first' tagged and around 5 million Cr. I'm about to retrace the route in beta, just to see if the bodies with volcanism also contained Bio signals
Hell, I just found an untagged CATALOG star the other day that was only about 3,000 ly from the bubble.
Umm... What's a CATALOG star?
(sorry if it was a 'joke' comment and it went over my head!)
Usually (I can't read Straha Yeagar's mind) a star that is listed in one of the contemporary stellar catalogues, like HIP, i.e. real life visible from Earth.
Wow I hadn't considered that until you just said it. Neutron farming will be super profitable, easy, and fast too, as all you need to do is jump and honk to full scan and tag every star/NS/BH in a system.
Wowza.
Neutron Highway, here I come!
LOLSeriously, I'd do that anyway. Most of my trips across the core have been neutron boosted, with most of it untagged previously.
This. Catalog stars are pretty highly sought after by explorers as they are real life stars, so not procedurally generated. There are not that many untagged ones left out there. However, in the context of this part of the thread, my point was that there are still plenty of things to discover, and even pretty close to the bubble.
https://www.universeguide.com/star/hip39168
As for the NS/BH farming, I am not really seeing these changes bringing that back into style as the payout changes a while back for other bodies pretty much killed it, which gave rise to the Road to Riches farming. As far as I have seen in the beta, payouts for NS/BH are not going to change.
Now as to what these changes are going to bring to the RtR with the payouts for probing...
About that NS/BH farming: quick test in the beta showed that Jackson's Lighthouse (1) will now give you 29,738 Cr, as opposed to 54,309 Cr earlier. So it's hardly going to be lucrative.
As for roads to riches: with the efficiency target (+25% payout) now being easy to hit, already-mapped ELWs go for around 1.2-2M Cr. However, first discoveries can even go over 4M. So yeah, Elite in exploration will be done really quick.
As for roads to riches: with the efficiency target (+25% payout) now being easy to hit, already-mapped ELWs go for around 1.2-2M Cr. However, first discoveries can even go over 4M. So yeah, Elite in exploration will be done really quick.
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You might be right. I needed to travel more than seven hundred light years from Sol tonight before I found a virgin system. 700!
I had to get to a whole 1,200 light years before it became mostly untagged.
Everything out to 10k will definitely be tagged by the middle of January, no doubt about it.
*rolls eyes*
We've pretty much hit the upper and lower boundaries of the disk, so I suppose roughly speaking the volume is going up as a square law... suppose we've covered a kylie radius so far in four years, ten kylies radius should be done by... 2400?
I'm reliably informed we'll have space feet and atmospheric landings by then.
I reckon a couple of years earlier than then... There is likely to be a 'rush' of exploring for the first couple of months after C4 lands, of course - having to travel 1KLy or so to get 'first discovered' may put some off
It is surprising how many systems are tagged going out to the edges ('top' & bottom' ) of the galactic lens, there have been some very busy people...
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