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Myysty

Myysty
I confirm that it is 6 of each. I just completed them and got the invite. Since the game doesn't keep track of completed mission, using Notepad++ I opened up the journal and was able to find them. Covert Heist missions are referred to as ProductionHeist_Covert and Covert Theft missions as Heist_Covert, a bit confusing. On my computer, the journal is located at C:\Users\%userprofile%\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous for those who might want to know.
 
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Bob McBobblehead

Bob McBobblehead
At least this engineer was more enjoyable to unlock compared to re-logging for two hours for 15 settlement defence plans. I've given up on the opinion polls and will just unlock this naturally over time.
 
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NUSQUAM

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Are people completing the 6 covert, or 6th, heists last?

It looks like it's actually only 6 covert heists and people are just happening to be finishing up the 6th covert heist and getting the invite. If people are unlocking it with only 6 covert heists and others are doing 6 and 6. Is it just luck that the 12th mission happens to be the 6th heist? So it only appears to be 6 and 6?

Im at 2 and 2. I will focus on the remaining 4 covert heists and see what happens.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
NUSQUAM said:
Are people completing the 6 covert, or 6th, heists last?

It looks like it's actually only 6 covert heists and people are just happening to be finishing up the 6th covert heist and getting the invite. If people are unlocking it with only 6 covert heists and others are doing 6 and 6. Is it just luck that the 12th mission happens to be the 6th heist? So it only appears to be 6 and 6?

Im at 2 and 2. I will focus on the remaining 4 covert heists and see what happens.
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It's 6 and 6.

100%

No doubt. Fully tested with no chance of ambiguity.
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Dissidious said:
Getting frustrated. I failed 5 missions today. I seriously need to improve my stealth skills :(
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Or find easier sites :) I was finding Threat 3 & 4 missions which were more doable, one IND site was incredibly simple - scan a guy on the way to work, follow him in, disable the alarms then hang around while the sample opened.

Previously I'd been looking at one with a guard watching at all time which would have been far harder.

I ended up going to one of the far-off systems (reducing the number of heist targets so I could learn one or two). ofc the downside of this is that I ended up waiting around for missions ...
 

Karmix

Karmix
Just a tip. Turn off alarms first. Then you can do what you want. They can see you at that point, you can fight them if you want, doesn’t matter. For the last couple, i just ran in and clicked the alarms while they were there. You’ll still succeed the mission.
 

Karmix

Karmix
I did all mine in Gliese 868. There are a bunch of factions there and stations all next to each other. Go to a system where you are allied with all factions if you can. Nothing worse than seeing that Covert Theft mission grayed out because you need to be allied.

Missions refresh like Horizons. I just waited until some showed up. It might take a few rounds of refreshing to get a few of each.
 
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Arclight386

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So I've collated all the completed covert mission entries from the logs since Odyssey launched:
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{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T21:47:32Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Bureau of Iota Persei Freedom Party", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778720253, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":228505, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"BallisticsData", "Name_Localised":"Ballistics Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":4 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Bureau of Iota Persei Freedom Party", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":1556665600355, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T21:47:42Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Iota Persei Crimson Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778720292, "Commodity":"$PersonalDocuments_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Personal Documents", "Count":1, "Reward":353321, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"WeaponSchematic", "Name_Localised":"Weapon Schematic", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Item;", "Category_Localised":"Item", "Count":2 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Iota Persei Crimson Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":1556665600355, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T23:47:53Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Blatrimpe Free", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778301056, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":14156, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Blatrimpe Free", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":7505623126738, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T23:48:23Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Blatrimpe Regulatory State", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778301141, "Commodity":"$ChemicalSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":19390, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Blatrimpe Regulatory State", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":7505623126738, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T01:03:51Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778350024, "Commodity":"$ShipSchematic_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Ship Schematic", "Count":1, "Reward":387406, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"IonisedGas", "Name_Localised":"Ionised Gas", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Item;", "Category_Localised":"Item", "Count":2 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[  ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T03:18:27Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778380742, "Commodity":"$AgriculturalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Agricultural Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":10000, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[  ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T19:53:12Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778181813, "Commodity":"$RefinementProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Refinement Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":174811, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"BallisticsData", "Name_Localised":"Ballistics Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":3 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T19:53:20Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778181854, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":255737, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"NOCData", "Name_Localised":"NOC Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":3 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T12:03:08Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Lacaille 8760 Allied Corp.", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778023599, "Commodity":"$RefinementProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Refinement Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":11873, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Lacaille 8760 Allied Corp.", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
A bit scrambled chronologically, but it's the counts that matter. By my count that's 6 covert heists and 3 covert thefts. Apparently I never did any covert missions before the last patch, after which I started specifically looking for them.

For me the conclusion is that it's the 6th covert heist that triggered the unlock, so you only need 6 completed. Hence I share NUSQUAM's suspicion that the covert thefts don't matter at all. :unsure:
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
Arclight386 said:
So I've collated all the completed covert mission entries from the logs since Odyssey launched:
Code: 
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T21:47:32Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Bureau of Iota Persei Freedom Party", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778720253, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":228505, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"BallisticsData", "Name_Localised":"Ballistics Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":4 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Bureau of Iota Persei Freedom Party", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":1556665600355, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T21:47:42Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Iota Persei Crimson Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778720292, "Commodity":"$PersonalDocuments_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Personal Documents", "Count":1, "Reward":353321, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"WeaponSchematic", "Name_Localised":"Weapon Schematic", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Item;", "Category_Localised":"Item", "Count":2 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Iota Persei Crimson Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":1556665600355, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T23:47:53Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Blatrimpe Free", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778301056, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":14156, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Blatrimpe Free", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":7505623126738, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T23:48:23Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Blatrimpe Regulatory State", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778301141, "Commodity":"$ChemicalSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":19390, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Blatrimpe Regulatory State", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":7505623126738, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T01:03:51Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_Heist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778350024, "Commodity":"$ShipSchematic_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Ship Schematic", "Count":1, "Reward":387406, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"IonisedGas", "Name_Localised":"Ionised Gas", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Item;", "Category_Localised":"Item", "Count":2 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[  ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-04T03:18:27Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778380742, "Commodity":"$AgriculturalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Agricultural Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":10000, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"People's Anlave for Equality", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[  ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T19:53:12Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778181813, "Commodity":"$RefinementProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Refinement Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":174811, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"BallisticsData", "Name_Localised":"Ballistics Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":3 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"+" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T19:53:20Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778181854, "Commodity":"$ChemicalProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Chemical Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":255737, "MaterialsReward":[ { "Name":"NOCData", "Name_Localised":"NOC Data", "Category":"$MICRORESOURCE_CATEGORY_Data;", "Category_Localised":"Data", "Count":3 } ], "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Social LHS 449 Partnership", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"++" } ] }
{ "timestamp":"2021-06-03T12:03:08Z", "event":"MissionCompleted", "Faction":"Lacaille 8760 Allied Corp.", "Name":"Mission_OnFoot_ProductionHeist_Covert_MB_name", "MissionID":778023599, "Commodity":"$RefinementProcessSample_Name;", "Commodity_Localised":"Refinement Process Sample", "Count":1, "Reward":11873, "FactionEffects":[ { "Faction":"Lacaille 8760 Allied Corp.", "Effects":[  ], "Influence":[ { "SystemAddress":5069001008553, "Trend":"UpGood", "Influence":"++" } ], "ReputationTrend":"UpGood", "Reputation":"+++" } ] }
A bit scrambled chronologically, but it's the counts that matter. By my count that's 6 covert heists and 3 covert thefts. Apparently I never did any covert missions before the last patch, after which I started specifically looking for them.

For me the conclusion is that it's the 6th covert heist that triggered the unlock, so you only need 6 completed. Hence I share NUSQUAM's suspicion that the covert thefts don't matter at all. :unsure:
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Just not true though, at least for me. I'd done 6 covert heists a full two days or more before I did my 6th theft. It only unlocked after that 6th theft (and exactly when I went back to my ship, no relog required). However you've collated the data, it doesn't match my actual experience (and that was a simpler method of just "counting" what I did from scratch).
 

Arclight386

A
Yeah, I don't really know what's going on. The problem is that Odyssey is a bit "flakey" so it's basically impossible to state anything with certainty.

Maybe what you experienced is intended and I got "lucky" and a bug caused her to unlock with just the heists.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
Arclight386 said:
Yeah, I don't really know what's going on. The problem is that Odyssey is a bit "flakey" so it's basically impossible to state anything with certainty.

Maybe what you experienced is intended and I got "lucky" and a bug caused her to unlock with just the heists.
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So you'll never get me to disagree that Odyssey can be "flaky" :D
 

zimms

zimms
Ydiss said:
Glad it helped :) I'm going to do some focused videos on heists next (and maybe focus on one or two really tough settlement types too).
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I've seen an AGRI type settlement that was pretty much just one huge building. In order to get to the PWR part of the building (and the alarms console) you had to walk through pretty much everything else including some restricted labs. I felt lucky I wasn't doing a heist mission.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
zimms said:
I've seen an AGRI type settlement that was pretty much just one huge building. In order to get to the PWR part of the building (and the alarms console) you had to walk through pretty much everything else including some restricted labs. I felt lucky I wasn't doing a heist mission.
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This is exactly the type I meant :)

I've done a number of coverts on this now, recorded all of them. There's definitely a way to do it safely but knowing the layout is the first hurdle. I failed a whole lot on my first few tries but it's almost (almost) routine now. I think anyone who claims Odyssey "always plays the same, just different layouts" hasn't tried this settlement if they think that.

I'm going to call it the gauntlet, because that's what it feels like.

There's one other type that's an EXT and it was incredily tough to crack. I'll dedicate a whole episode to that one too. It's actually pretty common.
 

zimms

zimms
Ydiss said:
This is exactly the type I meant :)

I've done a number of coverts on this now, recorded all of them. There's definitely a way to do it safely but knowing the layout is the first hurdle. I failed a whole lot on my first few tries but it's almost (almost) routine now. I think anyone who claims Odyssey "always plays the same, just different layouts" hasn't tried this settlement if they think that.

I'm going to call it the gauntlet, because that's what it feels like.

There's one other type that's an EXT and it was incredily tough to crack. I'll dedicate a whole episode to that one too. It's actually pretty common.
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I did two loops around the settlement at first, because I couldn't believe the PWR building didn't have an entrance. 😅
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
zimms said:
I did two loops around the settlement at first, because I couldn't believe the PWR building didn't have an entrance. 😅
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Pretty sure we all did this :D

I honestly think this design was intentional and I love it all the more for that. Lazy would be "plonk prefab buildings in array around paths" and call it a day. This was designed to be fiendish. What's weird is how difficult all AGRIs are in comparison to anything else. I'd have thought Military would have had the toughest nuts to crack but no, it's the farmers and botanists who have their stuff locked down tight.
 
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