Thargoid Attacks: Where, When and What you can do about it

My Python is good against scouts, but useless against Interceptors as it has regular weapons & no xeno scanner (atm).
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I found 1 interceptor in Deriv over the weekend, needless to say I ran from it! ;)
 
Ah, rep for the reference. One of the best movie moments of my life.

Wait, so I need to haul my to LP and start shooting...

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I've been sniping them with guardian gausses, but it definitely is no fun. Perhaps fixed AX MCs might make it a bit easier. AX fighter with a good pilot helps.

I don't like the fact that scouts and interceptors demand a different set of weapons but we'll just have to adapt.

Use 2x large AX MC turret and maybe one gauss just to learn how to aim , MC turrets are quite effective agasinst scouts
 
I've been sniping them with guardian gausses, but it definitely is no fun. Perhaps fixed AX MCs might make it a bit easier. AX fighter with a good pilot helps.

I don't like the fact that scouts and interceptors demand a different set of weapons but we'll just have to adapt.
You'll want AX MC turrets for scouts when you are in a ship like a Type 10. They are just way too fast and maneuverable for you to snipe easily with fixed weapons on a slow ship like the Type 10.
 
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Actually now that everyone is trying to make predictions I think that maybe I should start removing systems from the patrol after all we are not expecting the Thargoids to go backwards.

What I am wondering about is motive.

If the Thargoids were simply following a path then they would not limit themselves to systems with ammonia worlds or ammonia worlds with human starports.
So that suggests that there is something about these systems that is of interest to them.
Is there some asset on these systems that makes them important.


Its not suitability for surface sites because not all systems attacked have surface sites and gas giant systems would also be ion the list.

Why are they hitting these systems? Is there something for us to find?
 
That makes sense, they are heading back to where they encountered their previous foe and the weapon that stopped them - bit like the Daleks get a bit "squirrley" when they find the Doctor.
All those captured human escape pods - looking for info.
Better hope they don't find INRA's experiments on the "specimens" hmmm ?


"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones"
 
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Ive been mooching around LP 518-36 A 5 A and there are tons of POI everywhere. Lots of autonomous mines. Presumably a great location for mining. Is it any good for barnacles?
 
Presumably, the "motivation" is that some elements within the human race are essentialy planting 'Thumpers' to attract the Thargoids.

We don't know if the Thargoids are deliberately seeking out these signals and attacking, or they are just responding to those signals in a more instincitive way do we? But either way, the Thargoids have so far only attacked stations where there's a Transmitter. They also then seem to linger in those systems.

The crux of the matter is who/what is placing those transmitters, and why? Unless the Thargoids are inexplicably making human satellites and sneakily placing them, then it's humans that are doing it. So really the motivations of the Thargoids are probably less important than the motivations of whoever is placing/activating the Transmitters?

This also ties into the UA's speaking morse code, the signals they put out (in human lanugages) essentially took us into the Pleiades. In that case it was Alien Transmitters with Human signals. This time it's human Trasmitters with Alien signals. In each case we've been drawn into each-other's territory.

We were shown Meta-Alloys, a materail we can't replicate. Thargoids are being shown Ammonia worlds (or something else, maybe just the singal is enough).

There's always been people (me included) that have said there's signs of human-Thargoid collaborations in these events, right back to the beginning. If we assume that the Oresrian-Klaxian conflict is being played out in-game as it's been suggestd by the novels then the placing of Transmitters to "draw" the Klaxians into attacking humanity and getting us to attack them as they swarm through the Bubble fits exactly into the narrative established in the novels. Since the satellites that broadcast the signals are Human-made, and the stated motivation for the Oresrians was to draw the Klaxians into attacking humanity, then that does heavily suggest a Human-Oresrian collaboration in some significantly deep levels.

The Aegis report on the Guardian-Thargoid conflict indicated that the Thargoids only attacked the Guardians because the Guardians were in the territory established by the Thargoids via the Barnacle-seeding process. As others have pointed out, we aren't in the Thargoid territory. Except, after finding the probes and going to the Pleaides, we were literally directed to the discovery of the Meta-Alloys which started a Gold Rush, and effectively meant that we were well established in the Thargoid territory pretty quickly... There's obvioulsy debate about what they consider territory, but one answer is that it's pretty clear that they established a 150ly-ish bubble around the Pleiades. It's debatable as to whether they would have stuck to that, but regardless, we were all over it, with tens of thousands of ships, dozens of stations, etc.

I think it's interesting that the Federation has always been at the centre of this. Federation ships were the first ones attacked the Pleaides. The first UA's were found in Federation convoys. The "pincer" of the Thargoids seem to be heading for Sol... etc. But I can't believe that the Federation would draw Thargoids to themselves. That would imply that an extrenal faction is manipulating the Feds long-terms to be victims in this drama.

Can't help but wonder if either the suspiciously un-Thargoid-attacked Empire might have had a hand in this. Or the Alliance, who have always had dealings with Alien technology and have long been studying Barnalces in the California Nebula decided that only having the Empire as a rival was preferable.
 
Of all the really good points made above by LCU No Fool Like One and Louis Calvert, the thing really sticking in my brain this morning is: why is there no Thargoid activity in the California Nebula, or the Witch Head Nebula? There are Barnacles in both of these nebulae which means they are Thargoid territory and humans have established a limited presence there, so why have those outposts not been attacked?
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The key to understanding this, and maybe also giving the conflict a context from the Thargoid perspective, is to figure out the 'star maps' inside Thargoid structures. I have only seen videos of them (I've never found a Thargoid Probe) but it seems that the lights that make up the map come in two colours: yellow and blue. I wonder if that means that these are references for the locations of two Thargoid factions. I also wonder if the lights are representing locations of Ammonia Worlds or worlds seeded with Barnacles.
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I have trouble understanding the reasons for human-Thargoid collaboration. I need to read the appropriate books but still... it all comes down to understanding why the two Thargoid factions are in conflict with each other and how to stop that. The reasons for us helping one Thargoid faction over another, interfering in an internal conflict with a species we've been in conflict with and used bio-weapons against... . Now we're using rushing to use Guardian technology to fight the Thargoids when we're responsible for them attacking us? Seems to me more like we're all being played off against each other by a third party. What happened to our own AIs (Thunderchild) and the Guardians AI? The Thargoids and ourselves may have bigger concerns than keeping us off the grass in the Pleiades...
 
In that case it was Alien Transmitters with Human signals. This time it's human Trasmitters with Alien signals.

I understand how Thargoid Sensors are carrying human signals (morse). But I don't see how the transmitters found around certain stations are carrying alien signals. The transmissions have the following message in plain english:

"ANOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMONALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEM"
 
I have a hunch that this Thargoid business might just be one big hoax. Thargoids are being lured into the bubble by someone or some shaddy organization.
For example: Almost every NHSS lvl 4 that i went to shoot scouts, after the battle, the comms chat between the NPCs was the same. Something about the cargo they're carrying, that they were told to not talk about it but that it creep them out and that they were experiencing technical failures in their systems. To me, someone hired these guys to bring Thargoid cargo to these systems in order to lure them there.
 
Anyone else finding Vanguard mission board is now empty (including thargoid ones)?
Was getting missions yesterday. Now none. Significant?
 
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I understand how Thargoid Sensors are carrying human signals (morse). But I don't see how the transmitters found around certain stations are carrying alien signals. The transmissions have the following message in plain english:

"ANOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMOMALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEMONALOUS SIGNALS DETECTED IN SYSTEM"

But the Links point directly to the Transmitters don't they, not at the station? It's possible I misunderstood that bit.
 
I have a hunch that this Thargoid business might just be one big hoax. Thargoids are being lured into the bubble by someone or some shaddy organization.
For example: Almost every NHSS lvl 4 that i went to shoot scouts, after the battle, the comms chat between the NPCs was the same. Something about the cargo they're carrying, that they were told to not talk about it but that it creep them out and that they were experiencing technical failures in their systems. To me, someone hired these guys to bring Thargoid cargo to these systems in order to lure them there.

This. I find it rather worrying that human transmitters are found in the vicinity of each station starport that gets attacked on next Thursday. Could be Thargoids are able to clone human technology, but if not, some human puts them there, and that one knows which starport is next on the attack list, but without communicating that info in any way. No emergency plans, no evacuation missions until the Xenos actually strike. Might as well be the Club, I'd say, or possibly the ones behind the Black Flight thing.

Anyway, been hunting Scouts in Deriv-Dar for the last two days in the vicinity of Davy Terminal (124k ls out), but didn't notice any transmitter close by (don't have a TL though). The system is full of NHSS 4-7, used a Viper IV with MCs/beams and an FGS that also runs two Gauss canonns to great success. Drop of water on a hot plate, but at least I tried. At their current pace, the Thargoids will hit Sol in about two weeks, that could well get interesting :D

Unfortunately, can't run the plugin to report my kills, as I'm playing in VR and don't use EDMC.

O7,
[noob]
 
I find it rather worrying that human transmitters are found in the vicinity of each station starport that gets attacked on next Thursday. Could be Thargoids are able to clone human technology, but if not, some human puts them there, and that one knows which starport is next on the attack list, but without communicating that info in any way.

So you're saying that the Thargoids are placing the Transmitters (which transmit in English, and look just like our technology), and then the Eagle Eye are finding them by looking at where the Thargoid signals are going?

Hmm, I think they more likely explanation are that Eagle Eye finds the targets and puts the Transmitter in as a kind of 'X marks the spot'. They're scientists, so they observe what happens, looking for a pattern (though I think they should have worked it out by now, and the fact the Aegis habitually send their 'defence' megaships to the wrong ssystems doesn't look good for their intentions). Also, the transmitters stay in place (with the same message) after the attack, so why don't the Thargoids attack again next week?

(Those transmitters are the most troubling part of this, from a 'what the heck does it all mean' point of view)

Anyway, been hunting Scouts in Deriv-Dar for the last two days in the vicinity of Davy Terminal (124k ls out), but didn't notice any transmitter close by (don't have a TL though).

A transmitter has been found there.
 
Well, but somebody knows where the transmitters are placed, reliably marking attack targets well before the attack, but doesn't come clear about where and why for unknown reasons. As the TL responds to transmitter signals (even if they also transmit in English), there must be some Thargoid-related component in them. Ok, could be some shady organization deciphered the Thargoid code and put it into those transmitters. In this case, though, it's rather likely the transmitters' owner is actually leading the Xenos to their destinations and the Structures simply respond to the transmitters' signals (and other signals like INRA sites and the like). If it were only an 'X marks the spot' verification thing (wouldn't the starport name and reading the news next Thursday suffice?), the TL part makes little sense IMHO.

Oh, and that Simguru is already planning for post-extinction:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5adf3499b14e287e736eb6de

O7,
[noob]
 
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Since it is now less than a day from the time of the next anticipated attack, I've decided to check around for NHSS in several other systems:
Esuvit: no NHSS. 10+ minutes in supercruise
Spocs 253: no NHSS. 10+ minutes in supercruise, system is in Boom and many regular signal sources were seen.
Chan Mina: no NHSS. ~5 minutes in supercurise. Two (fixed) distress signals and a wrecked megaship are found here. Thargoid Interceptors were observed in the Distress signals, scanning wrecks and stealing escape pods. One distress signal has a single wrecked Farragut and the other has two. Many items of cargo abound, that are ignored by the Thargoids, e.g. Military Plans, Assault Plans, Encrypted Correspondence and even Honesty Pills. (I'm not in an AX-rigged ship, an oversight on my part, so I didn't see their markings or engage them in combat).
BD+34 1378: no NHSS. ~5-10 minutes in supercruise.
I'll check a couple more systems and then see if I can make a difference in combat against the Marauders.
 
Well, but somebody knows where the transmitters are placed, reliably marking attack targets well before the attack, but doesn't come clear about where and why for unknown reasons. As the TL responds to transmitter signals (even if they also transmit in English), there must be some Thargoid-related component in them. Ok, could be some shady organization deciphered the Thargoid code and put it into those transmitters. In this case, though, it's rather likely the transmitters' owner is actually leading the Xenos to their destinations and the Structures simply respond to the transmitters' signals (and other signals like INRA sites and the like). If it were only an 'X marks the spot' verification thing (wouldn't the starport name and reading the news next Thursday suffice?), the TL part makes little sense IMHO.

Oh, and that Simguru is already planning for post-extinction:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5adf3499b14e287e736eb6de

O7,
[noob]

I mean that the TL points to a location, then Aegis put the TX at that location to mark it - a different cause vs effect to what you describe. But hey, holes in both plots ;)
 
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