Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

[Ian Doncaster]

So you get 120/60/18 mats split between 6 types at system completion dependent on relative contribution.

There's an interesting "combat Buckyball" challenge which presents itself here: do one action [1] in every Control system as quickly as possible to get around 7000 materials over the next few months.

If CGs are any indication then "top 25%" is likely to require about 7 times the contribution of "top 75%" - at least for Invasions and inhabited Controls where there's likely to be a substantial number of participants - so if you're going for materials, doing "top 75%" effort across a range of systems is probably the most efficient.


[1] Given the earlier controversy over Titan kills and thresholds, I feel obliged to point out that even at maximum efficiency [2] this is probably only getting you 200 high-grade materials an hour, which is nowhere near the rate you could get from missions or HGEs or Crystal Shards or some other thing actually designed to give lots of materials. It's not an exploit and there doesn't need to be a minimum contribution set.
[2] And even then, under the assumption that either the Thargoids won't voluntarily withdraw from many more systems to retake spires or you get paid anyway if they do, so the total payout might be quite a bit less.

 

[Weps]

Are heading for vulnerable titan tomorrow? I'm looking at DCoH right now and it's 3 more systems plus the spire for it to be vulnerable...

 

[Kira Goto]

Are heading for vulnerable titan tomorrow? I'm looking at DCoH right now and it's 3 more systems plus the spire for it to be vulnerable...

Unlikely. It would need a good amount more effort while the spire is basically out already… might only have 4 or 5 left depending on how motivated people are feeling about Rajuarpai, though.

Wouldn’t count it out, but it might just barely slip the net.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Unless Rajuarpai was powered into a last-moment completion, this will be an interesting test of the Thargoid supplies reaching T. Thor:

• Will it pay populated systems in return for a Spire site?
• Will it concede vulnerability in the process?

Either way, M. Thor started week 88 devoid of targets and ought to remain that way for a while now, so I think there is no particular rush! The background actions to clear staging areas and start moving other Spire sites are also very good; as I mentioned shortly after seeing the systems traded for Spires reoccupation:

If the Thargoids cannot operate without a Spire site and will spend Control systems to take one back, then in the context of M. Cocijo and M. Raijin I presume a good idea could be to deplete their Spire sites sooner rather than later, that the payment starts occurring.

Additional: Even at the expense of reaching T. Thor sooner, that is!

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Week 89, 8th August 3310​

Maelstrom Thor
Control: Only four attacked ports at Rajuarpai, HIP 19091, Gluschen and Leunii remain.
Titan: One week until vulnerability; the nearby Chanyaya has a good port for transferring Titan attack vessels!

Report
Four Alerts repelled at Tvasu, Koko Oh, Ao Kiang and Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-146.
Six Invasions defended at Chibis, Ngolite, Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-5, Sukurbago, Jawul and Wanmi.
Twelve Control evictions at Rajuarpai, Leunii, Gluschen, HIPs 19091 and 113076, Pegasi Sectors VK-L a9-5, RE-N a8-2, PI-S b4-1 and OY-O a7-0, Kamato and Col 285 Sectors AP-F b12-2 and AP-F b12-4.
One Matrix system cleared at Pegasi Sector IH-U b3-4.
In addition to the defended Invasions, six recaptured systems starting Recovery are Rajuarpai, Leunii, Gluschen, HIPs 19091 and 113076, and Kamato.
Maelstrom Thor is depleted!

Targets updated at 06:30 15th August 3310
Attada Control 88% *88.1% — Raijin 28 Ly, 1273 strength
Pegasi Sector XQ-J a10-0 Control 86% — Raijin 28 Ly, 677 strength
Hosan Control 86% — Raijin 28 Ly, 1501 strength
HR 8536 Control 82% — Raijin 28 Ly, 873 strength
Pegasi Sector XQ-J a10-1 Control 82% — Raijin 28 Ly, 872 strength
Pegasi Sector SP-L a9-1 Control 82% — Raijin 28 Ly, 872 strength
Col 285 Sector DA-E b13-1 Control 74% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 1234 strength
HIP 39186 Control 66% — Cocijo 34 Ly, 1573 strength
HIP 39468 Control 66% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 1615 strength
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-82 Control 66% — Cocijo 32 Ly, 1593 strength
Col 285 Sector TC-J b10-0 Control 66% — Cocijo 32 Ly, 1588 strength
Col 285 Sector US-H b11-5 Control 66% — Cocijo 33 Ly, 1586 strength
Col 285 Sector US-H b11-1 Control 62% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 1808 strength
Col 285 Sector YY-F b12-6 Control 62% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 1804 strength
Pegasi Sector KH-V c2-25 Control 44% — Raijin 28 Ly, 2716 strength
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-72 Control 42% — Cocijo 28 Ly, 2801 strength
Pegasi Sector NN-S b4-3 Matrix 40% *40.8% — Raijin 24 Ly
Col 285 Sector XT-Q c5-18 Matrix 34% — Cocijo 11 Ly
Pegasi Sector NN-S b4-9 Matrix 26% *26.8% — Raijin 14 Ly
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-143 Matrix 26% *26.3% — Cocijo 16 Ly
Tagin Control 24% — Raijin 23 Ly, 8465 strength
Pegasi Sector KC-U b3-1 Control 20% — Raijin 28 Ly, 8599 strength
Pegasi Sector ON-S b4-2 Control 18% — Raijin 27 Ly, 3982 strength
Pegasi Sector KC-U b3-4 Matrix 10% *11.1% — Raijin 18 Ly
Pegasi Sector JH-U b3-4 Matrix 10% — Raijin 7 Ly
Pegasi Sector NN-S b4-7 Matrix 8% *9.7% — Raijin 11 Ly
Pegasi Sector NN-S b4-2 Matrix 8% *9.5% — Raijin 5 Ly
Pegasi Sector RE-N a8-1 Control 8% *8.6% — Raijin 26 Ly, 4481 strength
Col 285 Sector ZT-F b12-3 Matrix 8% *8.5% — Cocijo 17 Ly
HIP 116542 Control 8% *8.4% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4563 strength
Pegasi Sector LC-U b3-4 Control 8% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4469 strength
Col 285 Sector VN-H b11-1 Matrix 6% *7.1% — Cocijo 15 Ly
Pegasi Sector WK-L a9-1 Control 6% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4581 strength
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-23 Control 6% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 4475 strength
Pegasi Sector GW-W d1-115 Control 4% *5.1% — Raijin 23 Ly, 10.6k strength
HIP 112219 Control 4% *4.7% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4737 strength
Pegasi Sector RE-N a8-4 Control 4% *4.3% — Raijin 25 Ly, 4719 strength
Mapon Control 4% *4.1% — Cocijo 18 Ly, 11.1k strength
Pegasi Sector ZQ-J a10-0 Control 4% — Raijin 23 Ly, 4829 strength
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-18 Control 4% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 4572 strength
HIP 116052 Control 2% *3.6% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4698 strength
Pegasi Sector HW-V b2-6 Control 2% *3.6% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4693 strength
Pegasi Sector RE-N a8-3 Control 2% *3.4% — Raijin 26 Ly, 4739 strength
Pegasi Sector PI-S b4-3 Control 2% *3.4% — Raijin 22 Ly, 4878 strength
Col 285 Sector YT-F b12-5 Control 2% *3.3% — Cocijo 30 Ly, 4617 strength
Pegasi Sector VK-L a9-2 Control 2% *3.2% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4812 strength
19 Puppis Control 2% *3% — Cocijo 27 Ly, 4737 strength
HIP 112595 Control 2% *3% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4849 strength
Pegasi Sector GW-W d1-112 Control 2% *3% — Raijin 25 Ly, 4810 strength
Pegasi Sector PI-S b4-6 Control 2% *3% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4847 strength
Pegasi Sector WK-L a9-3 Control 2% *3% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4716 strength
Pegasi Sector LC-U b3-3 Control 2% *2.9% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4839 strength
Pegasi Sector VK-L a9-1 Control 2% *2.9% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4717 strength
Pegasi Sector KH-V c2-7 Control 2% *2.9% — Raijin 23 Ly, 4895 strength
Pegasi Sector HW-V b2-1 Control 2% *2.9% — Raijin 26 Ly, 4764 strength
Pegasi Sector YQ-J a10-2 Control 2% *2.9% — Raijin 26 Ly, 4764 strength
Pegasi Sector NY-O a7-2 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 25 Ly, 4816 strength
Pegasi Sector NY-O a7-5 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4845 strength
Pegasi Sector NN-S b4-4 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 21 Ly, 4949 strength
Pegasi Sector ZQ-J a10-1 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 23 Ly, 4880 strength
Pegasi Sector UK-L a9-1 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 23 Ly, 4892 strength
Pegasi Sector OI-S b4-4 Control 2% *2.8% — Raijin 22 Ly, 4906 strength
Pegasi Sector KH-V c2-13 Control 2% *2.6% — Raijin 25 Ly, 4825 strength
Pegasi Sector IH-U b3-7 Control 2% *2.5% — Raijin 6 Ly, 5520 strength
HR 3048 Control 2% *2.2% — Cocijo 25 Ly, 4855 strength
HIP 117229 Control 2% — Raijin 23 Ly, 4916 strength
Pegasi Sector NY-O a7-0 Control 2% — Raijin 26 Ly, 4817 strength
Pegasi Sector NY-O a7-3 Control 2% — Raijin 25 Ly, 4847 strength
Pegasi Sector QE-N a8-4 Control 2% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4789 strength
Pegasi Sector YQ-J a10-3 Control 2% — Raijin 27 Ly, 4791 strength

Notes
The Alert report lists predicted attackers.

Week 88, 1st August 3310​

Report
Four Alerts repelled at Aurus, Bormuninus, Wogaiawong and HIP 38134.
Six Invasions defended at Nu Guang, Holvandalla, Balak, Col 285 Sector YT-F b12-3, Na Zha and Laumas.
Thirty-two Control evictions at Pegasi Sectors LY-O a7-1, PJ-N a8-2 and IH-U b3-1, Chanyaya, Col 285 Sectors KB-O c6-3, IG-O c6-14, UH-C b13-2, QB-E b12-2, OC-V d2-96, JA-G b11-1, MG-E b12-2, JA-G b11-0, EA-Q c5-6, OC-V d2-79, PB-E b12-1, NG-E b12-5, OB-E b12-3, RW-D b12-3, OC-V d2-58, LV-F b11-1, QB-E b12-0, MG-E b12-1, OB-E b12-2, LV-F b11-3, QB-E b12-1, IG-O c6-11, JA-G b11-2, IG-O c6-8 and OB-E b12-1, and HIPs 19894, 19600 and 19046.
Two Matrix systems cleared at Col 285 Sectors PB-E b12-3 and OG-E b12-1.
In addition to the defended Invasions, two recaptured systems starting Recovery are Chanyaya and HIP 19894.

 

[BDelacroix]

Just a note, one of the reactivated ports for counterstrike is a 2.5g world. Let's just say that makes it a little bit challenging.

 

[MartinG]

Just a note, one of the reactivated ports for counterstrike is a 2.5g world. Let's just say that makes it a little bit challenging.

The one in HIP 19091, for the information.

 

[Kira Goto]

Just a note, one of the reactivated ports for counterstrike is a 2.5g world. Let's just say that makes it a little bit challenging.

I need to ask, how many Thargoid ships did you see crash into the ground? (Actually crash, not employ magical phasing technology to shift through it.)

 

[kaputnikGo]

I need to ask, how many Thargoid ships did you see crash into the ground? (Actually crash, not employ magical phasing technology to shift through it.)

I noticed about half clipping through the ground and then returning to surface, and about half would hit the ground and bust their shields. Also it seemed that the interceptors would not zoom way up to about +20km height, but would seem to spread out horizontally. Scouts suffered same ground hit and clip ratio.

 

[Leadfoot]

I noticed about half clipping through the ground and then returning to surface, and about half would hit the ground and bust their shields. Also it seemed that the interceptors would not zoom way up to about +20km height, but would seem to spread out horizontally. Scouts suffered same ground hit and clip ratio.

It sounds like there's an option somewhere that says "Select option to play Thargoid" and apparently some noobs are selecting that. And of course have never experienced a high g world.

 

[BDelacroix]

I need to ask, how many Thargoid ships did you see crash into the ground? (Actually crash, not employ magical phasing technology to shift through it.)

0. They have no problem and fly around like nothing is amiss. Same with the npcs.
Me, on the other hand, had to point up a lot. You can reach >500m/s pointing down with 0 throttle.

If they'd come up to >10k altitude, I'd able to do more but the others insisted on fighting at 1k. So I was only able to take a petal or two off and the rest of the time was a rotating anti scout turret.

 

[grazvy]

I noticed about half clipping through the ground and then returning to surface, and about half would hit the ground and bust their shields. Also it seemed that the interceptors would not zoom way up to about +20km height, but would seem to spread out horizontally. Scouts suffered same ground hit and clip ratio.

I have only seen thargoids clipping through ground, never crashing. So this is a mistery to me where did you see them busting their shields?
I have seen however thargoids getting stuck on base buildings, even one tried to get up from underground and got stuck partially under and partially over ground.

 

[kaputnikGo]

I have only seen thargoids clipping through ground, never crashing. So this is a mistery to me where did you see them busting their shields?
I have seen however thargoids getting stuck on base buildings, even one tried to get up from underground and got stuck partially under and partially over ground.

from the cz at Selberg Depot, HIP 19091. ran that cz a few times and it happened in all of them.

 

[BDelacroix]

Weird. I contributed to 3 of the 4 counterstrike systems (the 4th was already done). I was rewarded for contributions at the 2.5g world but not from the other two in which I contributed more.

 

[Kira Goto]

Weird. I contributed to 3 of the 4 counterstrike systems (the 4th was already done). I was rewarded for contributions at the 2.5g world but not from the other two in which I contributed more.

There is a building consensus it appears bugged. Out of the three systems I contributed to so far (Ngolite, Jawul and one uninhabited control at Raijin), I only received a tier 1 reward for the control system, while I probably would only have qualified for the bottom 25% in the invasions. If you want to contribute to an issue tracker report...

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[SergMx]

Weird. I contributed to 3 of the 4 counterstrike systems (the 4th was already done). I was rewarded for contributions at the 2.5g world but not from the other two in which I contributed more.

Not really on topic, I also get frustrated sometimes, in the AX zone you kill Medusa, kill all the hearts and fly away from Medusa a bit, and at that moment the NPCs kill Medusa and you get nothing for it. For some reason I've had this situation many times

 

[Kira Goto]

Not really on topic, I also get frustrated sometimes, in the AX zone you kill Medusa, kill all the hearts and fly away from Medusa a bit, and at that moment the NPCs kill Medusa and you get nothing for it. For some reason I've had this situation many times

I’ve had it with Basilisks before, when I started out with AX. For that reason I try staying within a few kilometers or near when the Interceptor loses its last heart, at least within beam laser range. Sometimes the NPCs will just shred through the shield and remaining hitpoints in seconds, and with them you have to hit it within… I think 30 seconds (someone correct me if this is wrong) before the killing blow. Even if it is just the shield with a beam laser.

 

[BDelacroix]

There is a building consensus it appears bugged. Out of the three systems I contributed to so far (Ngolite, Jawul and one uninhabited control at Raijin), I only received a tier 1 reward for the control system, while I probably would only have qualified for the bottom 25% in the invasions. If you want to contribute to an issue tracker report...

Issue Tracker

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Done. I'm not super worried about it and wonder if it is just a problem of only getting one message or if indeed it was credit for only one system.

 

[Kira Goto]

Done. I'm not super worried about it and wonder if it is just a problem of only getting one message or if indeed it was credit for only one system.

Well, unless I just had the worst luck in the world by the awards for both invasions being materials my alt was already maxed out on, I got nothing from either.

Whereas for the cleared control system I got the message and (though probably just circumstantial) only mats which I had free storage for, all G5.

 

[BDelacroix]

Well, unless I just had the worst luck in the world by the awards for both invasions being materials my alt was already maxed out on, I got nothing from either.

Whereas for the cleared control system I got the message and (though probably just circumstantial) only mats which I had free storage for, all G5.

I saw on reddit they fixed it apparently.