Thargoid Map Theory

Thargoids do not measure distance in light years. They measure distances relative to a reference distance.

1 Thargometer = the distance between Merope and Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3

We know this because this is how we are able to decode their messages.
 
We don't know Thargoid units of measurement.
These Thargoid base maps use relative distances, different in each base, but a solvable riddle because it is known how the distances relate to each other (the pictogram) in each case.
 
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Thargoids do not measure distance in light years. They measure distances relative to a reference distance.

1 Thargometer = the distance between Merope and Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3

We know this because this is how we are able to decode their messages.
Provided that it is still a figure of distance and not something else.
 
This video explains how to decode the link messages

Source: https://youtu.be/IegLKMISkuA


Then you can give the link decoder the name of the system where the message came from and the message values and it works out where the message is pointing to.
I apologize for my translation.
That's not what I meant. If we are confident in our data, we can enter one thing and receive another.
I.e. by entering the system we should get the code and vice versa. How can we do this?
If we can't do that then we couldn't get the right system either.
Sorry if I am not explaining it correctly but it is the usual logic.
I.e. in essence there should be an application that was analogous to the alien probe.

And then it does not matter if it is procedural generation or just coordinates, but in astronomical values there must be sufficient accuracy.
Otherwise the error in the distance can be too big.
 
I apologize for my translation.
That's not what I meant. If we are confident in our data, we can enter one thing and receive another.
I.e. by entering the system we should get the code and vice versa. How can we do this?
If we can't do that then we couldn't get the right system either.
Sorry if I am not explaining it correctly but it is the usual logic.
I.e. in essence there should be an application that was analogous to the alien probe.

And then it does not matter if it is procedural generation or just coordinates, but in astronomical values there must be sufficient accuracy.
Otherwise the error in the distance can be too big.
As it happens the software takes the code and finds the system, but the way the thargoids encode the data introduces some rounding errors and also the triangulation gives two possible locations with one code.

So the software picks the systems and then checks to see if it can get the original code.

By decoding and re-encoding we can have 100% confidence in the result.
 
I apologize for my translation.
That's not what I meant. If we are confident in our data, we can enter one thing and receive another.
I.e. by entering the system we should get the code and vice versa. How can we do this?
If we can't do that then we couldn't get the right system either.
Sorry if I am not explaining it correctly but it is the usual logic.
I.e. in essence there should be an application that was analogous to the alien probe.

And then it does not matter if it is procedural generation or just coordinates, but in astronomical values there must be sufficient accuracy.
Otherwise the error in the distance can be too big.

Ya ive been meaning to play with this for a while. The app is great - but its a bit of a black box. - And ya there do seem to be some errors generated using these fractions (hopefully i didnt add too many of my own) - it gets you close though ;)

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Has anyone ever tried flipping the Thargoid map and superimposing it onto the Milky Way map?

Looking at a version that Maclore52 took from above ( Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/WPuXy
), and the Milky Way map available at EDSM, it almost looks as though the highlighted spiral arms of the Thargoid map should line up with the spaces between the Galaxy arms pretty well once the Thargoid map is flipped and superimposed over our galaxy.
 
Has anyone ever tried flipping the Thargoid map and superimposing it onto the Milky Way map?

Looking at a version that Maclore52 took from above ( Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/WPuXy
), and the Milky Way map available at EDSM, it almost looks as though the highlighted spiral arms of the Thargoid map should line up with the spaces between the Galaxy arms pretty well once the Thargoid map is flipped and superimposed over our galaxy.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is a thing in the First Encounters gazettes have something called the Octa-wave theory (of Thargoid migration):


MATHEMATICAL PROOF CLAIMED FOR 'OCTA-WAVE' THEORY​


S.L.A.M


One popular theory proposed to account for the sudden appearance and equally sudden disappearance of the Thargoids received - in the eyes of its supporters at least - a renewed boost recently with the publication of a mathematical model purporting to confirm the predictions made by the theory.


The 'octa-wave' theory, like many others, begins from the observation that no Thargoid home planet has been discovered, and proposes that the Thargoids are a migratory species making their home in deep space. The model claims to support the central idea of the theory, namely that the Thargoid vessels encountered in human space were merely one vertex of a vast octagonal array of migrating ships slowly rotating its way through our galaxy.


According to the theory, it is possible that other parts of the migration may in their turn pass through human space, with, no doubt, dire consequences. Professor Ghesrabeen's analysis seems compelling, but other scientists remain unconvinced.


"If I postulated as many missing data points as he does, and applied half as much computer time, I could give you convincing proof that the Thargoids were writing out the lyrics to Jjagged Bbanner's 'Zirconium Stardrive' in letters six parsecs tall." said one.

Source: First Encounters gazettes (use Ctrl + F and search for octa)
 
The problem with that theory is the thargoids only appear in specific areas of space. If they are a migratory species then they are moving from one hunting ground to the next. The fact that meta alloys take thousands of years to grow counters the idea of them being migratory as well.
 
The problem with that theory is the thargoids only appear in specific areas of space. If they are a migratory species then they are moving from one hunting ground to the next. The fact that meta alloys take thousands of years to grow counters the idea of them being migratory as well.
My personal take is they are more directly linked to gas giants with ammonia based life and mainly brought out by humans being idiots. I was mostly pointing out that weird theory from the gazettes as the overlay with the galaxy triggered a memory that it had been implied that the Thargoids come in waves in the past games.
 
My personal take is they are more directly linked to gas giants with ammonia based life and mainly brought out by humans being idiots. I was mostly pointing out that weird theory from the gazettes as the overlay with the galaxy triggered a memory that it had been implied that the Thargoids come in waves in the past games.
I'm not very familiar with the lore of the previous games but if I'm not mistaken the Thargoids were only in the first game and skipped the second one. I am curious what the map is. There just isn't any theory that adequately explains what it is.
 
Dont know why I never got wind of this thread...

"so our measurement of a Light Year is based on the time it takes OUR home planet to orbit OUR sun right?"

This is so astronomocally wrong its not even funny anymore.


Anyway... The real reason why I am posting is if someone actually tried to find the other system on the right side of the map. I never noticed this before in other pictures but the inner shape of the ringed planet isnt round its diamond with cut top and bottom. Noone ever used spansh for that with the 150ly radius around merope?! Second planet ringed, wild guess its an aw.
 
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