The best way to report someone who is occupying a landing pad and keeps doing it?

I could switch to solo but as I have said I like the interactions and immersion of open play.
apparently not

edit: if you're grinding out imperial rank at the mainani-ngallin loop, which as I understand is just back and forth data courier missions, have you considered just... using a small ship instead of a medium?
 
apparently not

edit: if you're grinding out imperial rank at the mainani-ngallin loop, which as I understand is just back and forth data courier missions, have you considered just... using a small ship instead of a medium?
Yeah, not in this case I guess, the interaction part I mean, not the immersion part.

I didn't know there was only one medium pad and asp explorer was fitted and upgraded a bit to make the travel to ngalinn-mainani area shorter at the first place, jump range I mean. And this thing also happened after I opened this topic but same person was quicker this time, took at max few minutes at few occasions so I didn't bother to go take a smaller ship, it was not worth to spend the time needed to switch ships. Anyway I have got to Duke rank and after a few hours of trading got the money to buy Imperial Cutter as well and bought it. Mission Complete, the thing looks badass.
 
You are utterly trying so hard to manipulate my point. This example has nothing to do with what happened in game. But the following example might give you an idea. You go to an ATM with your car, only one spot to park and using that ATM takes like 3 minutes at max. You go there and see a car parked and you see the person at the ATM. You wait for a while patiently and see that it is taking longer that it was supposed to. You ask if it is going to take longer cause if you do your thing in 15 minutes you will get bonus money. When they don't respond you say you asked that because you have a bonus for your thing. They still be silent etc and you lose your bonus. Almost same happens with same person at another ATM a short while later. I know things can happen and you have to go afk immediately but when you turn back and see you blocked someone else's thing you say sorry mate something popped up etc. You don't have to but it is common courtesy. I could switch to solo but as I have said I like the interactions and immersion of open play. Not a huge thing but it was irritating so I wanted to open a topic to ask what to do in such a case. No need to act like I am butchering everyone who gets in my way. Also thanks to people who replied with understanding, by understanding I don't say only people who supported my point but all people who could look from my perspective and replied with insight.
Exactly our point. The person hogging the ATM can't won't be punished, and neither can will a pad-hog in ED. At least you have the option of solo mode in ED.

You had an option, and you chose not to utilize it. In other words, you chose to forfeit your bonus, twice. Trying to place the blame on another player is pointless.
 
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Exactly our point. The person hogging the ATM can't be punished, and neither can a pad-hog in ED. At least you have the option of solo mode in ED.

You had an option, and you chose not to utilize it. In other words, you chose to forfeit your bonus, twice. Trying to place the blame on another player is pointless.
Yeah mate then I go and occupy Ngalinn medium pad for 3 hours straight and tell everyone to go solo mode. Also I lost the bonus in the first occasion, the second one I got the bonus.

Edit: Also try to occupy an ATM so long when there is someone in line then repeat it with the same person a short while later, ignoring the person asking you if it is going to take longer and see what happens, especially if their thing is urgent.
 
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Yeah mate then I go and occupy Ngalinn medium pad for 3 hours straight and tell everyone to go solo mode. Also I lost the bonus in the first occasion, the second one I got the bonus.
Nobody is saying that the situation you found yourself in wasn't annoying. I think I would have found that a bit tedious. What we are saying is:
  1. Don't automatically assume that someone is doing it to annoy you. They may be inexperienced noobies that don't realise what they are doing or don't now how to use the comms system to apologise to you. They do not need reporting, they need a bit gentle educating.
  2. Use polite words to explain and educate then, don't use aggressive, angry or rude phrases. BTW I've no idea how you spoke to your fellow player, but you are coming across on this forum thread as ultra angry and aggressive. For example, if someone blast me loudly at the traffic light the moment the light go green, I'll wait a bit before pulling off. If they give me a gentle beep if the green has been showing for a bit then I wave an apology and move off straight away.
  3. There are alternative way of solving your problem, you can choose to use them or suffer the consequences.
  4. The game is not designed to serve you only. It is designed to present you with challenges. Some are built into the game, some come in the form of idiots or inexperienced people that are playing the game with you. How you deal with those challenges is a measure of your ability.
  5. Immersion adds situations in that sometimes benefits you and sometimes hampers you. It will not always go your way. A good player will find ways to overcome those challenges. A bad player will create a forum account, complain, rant and then act surprised when they don't get the rest of the community agreeing 100% with them.
I hope that you have the ability to take on board what others are saying to you and you continue to enjoy this great game and interact with other players as friends, not enemies. Good luck in achieving the goals you seek. O7.
 
Nobody is saying that the situation you found yourself in wasn't annoying. I think I would have found that a bit tedious. What we are saying is:
  1. Don't automatically assume that someone is doing it to annoy you. They may be inexperienced noobies that don't realise what they are doing or don't now how to use the comms system to apologise to you. They do not need reporting, they need a bit gentle educating.
  2. Use polite words to explain and educate then, don't use aggressive, angry or rude phrases. BTW I've no idea how you spoke to your fellow player, but you are coming across on this forum thread as ultra angry and aggressive. For example, if someone blast me loudly at the traffic light the moment the light go green, I'll wait a bit before pulling off. If they give me a gentle beep if the green has been showing for a bit then I wave an apology and move off straight away.
  3. There are alternative way of solving your problem, you can choose to use them or suffer the consequences.
  4. The game is not designed to serve you only. It is designed to present you with challenges. Some are built into the game, some come in the form of idiots or inexperienced people that are playing the game with you. How you deal with those challenges is a measure of your ability.
  5. Immersion adds situations in that sometimes benefits you and sometimes hampers you. It will not always go your way. A good player will find ways to overcome those challenges. A bad player will create a forum account, complain, rant and then act surprised when they don't get the rest of the community agreeing 100% with them.
I hope that you have the ability to take on board what others are saying to you and you continue to enjoy this great game and interact with other players as friends, not enemies. Good luck in achieving the goals you seek. O7.
"A bad player will create a forum account, complain, rant and then act surprised when they don't get the rest of the community agreeing 100% with them."

I have already thanked people who replied with insight whether they agreed with me or not.

You were doing really good until this part. There is no point discussing anymore. My words on this topic also was result of waiting like 20 minutes in total at least, in game I was very polite until the last drop of patience of someone who has above avarage patience level. As I have said most of the people here try hard to take the situation from a perspective that is not reflecting what happened. Peace out.
 
You were doing really good until this part. There is no point discussing anymore. My words on this topic also was result of waiting like 20 minutes in total at least, in game I was very polite until the last drop of patience of someone who has above avarage patience level. As I have said most of the people here try hard to take the situation from a perspective that is not reflecting what happened. Peace out.
We have to take your word for "being polite" (which, personally, I doubt), but what happened is this: You made the wrong decision in game to wait for a free pad instead of switching modes, and as a result, the first post your forum account made was asking how to tell on someone.

Not the best track record. But this is the internet, where everybody is wrong but you, right?
 
Just offering advice.

Oh and I did not categorise you as a bad player. You did. I just described what a bad player would do.

Good luck in your missions and live long and prosper.
 
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Yeah mate then I go and occupy Ngalinn medium pad for 3 hours straight and tell everyone to go solo mode. Also I lost the bonus in the first occasion, the second one I got the bonus.

Edit: Also try to occupy an ATM so long when there is someone in line then repeat it with the same person a short while later, ignoring the person asking you if it is going to take longer and see what happens, especially if their thing is urgent.
This entire thread is a waste of time. Some people are just too selfish to learn.
 
I have been to an outpost and my ship could only land on landing pad 3 but it was occupied, despite my warnings the occupier stayed there then left like 15 minutes or so later not saying sorry or anything, just with a o7.
Stacking multiple missions could take that sort of time, and while doing so they would not see your messages. NPC chat would spam their message log and they could have said O7 without full context and subsequently ignored you if receiving later messages without that earlier context.

Whether intentional or otherwise they are both valid choices for the other person and not reportable. You have options to block+relog, or change from Open. Both are better than being similarly pad blocked at an outpost defence when you urgently need repairs and are likely to lose the instance.

Fly safe CMDR.
 
Yeah, not in this case I guess, the interaction part I mean, not the immersion part.

I didn't know there was only one medium pad and asp explorer was fitted and upgraded a bit to make the travel to ngalinn-mainani area shorter at the first place, jump range I mean. And this thing also happened after I opened this topic but same person was quicker this time, took at max few minutes at few occasions so I didn't bother to go take a smaller ship, it was not worth to spend the time needed to switch ships. Anyway I have got to Duke rank and after a few hours of trading got the money to buy Imperial Cutter as well and bought it. Mission Complete, the thing looks badass.
Try HIP8444 instead, then you might not bump into so many other CMDRs
 
Exactly our point. The person hogging the ATM can't be punished, and neither can a pad-hog in ED. At least you have the option of solo mode in ED.

If someone is holding up traffic at an ATM they can most certainly be punished. If it's a drive through ATM you could well be arrested and your vehicle towed. If it's a walk up ATM, you could be arrested for loitering or thrown off bank property by private security. Resist enough to escalate things and it could easily turn into a case of suicide by cop.

Same goes for almost any situation where the flow of traffic is unduly impeded. In the case of emergency scenarios, or sensitive areas, no one is going to have patience for people that waste time at the cost of money or risk of lives (and an orbital outpost that depends on trade and resupply certainly qualifies).

If there are no pads free, and someone requests docking permission, they should enter a queue, and ship that has been docked longest should get a slightly shorter timer...when that timer is up, docking permission is recinded and the ship launched automatically.

It should be like this for dawdlers in high-traffic areas:
Source: https://youtu.be/zWN6XGUAhZU?t=25


Just push them off the side of the outpost and let them fall on to the planet below! Once the CMDR is released from detention and fined appropriately, they can take an Apex down and find what's left of their ship, then wait in another queue before being given a stack of insurance forms to fill out, in triplicate.
 
Same goes for almost any situation where the flow of traffic is unduly impeded. In the case of emergency scenarios, or sensitive areas, no one is going to have patience for people that waste time at the cost of money or risk of lives ....
Checked the news from London recently? The slow walkers get away with it, including stopping emergency vehicles. Those doing it cannot be punished as they are doing nothing illegal.
 
Checked the news from London recently? The slow walkers get away with it, including stopping emergency vehicles. Those doing it cannot be punished as they are doing nothing illegal.

No, I'm not terribly familiar with London and doing nothing illegal never made anyone safe from the police where I come from.

Which flavor of police...tolerance for shenanigans...do you think is a better analog for the 'loitering is punishable by death' setting of Elite?
 
personally I think there should be an on deck timer of say 3 mins else the ship is auto stowed freeing up the pad (outpost would require a tardis module installed though, but as all ships use the module tech flatpacking should be a fine art by now ;)
 
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If someone is holding up traffic at an ATM they can most certainly be punished. If it's a drive through ATM you could well be arrested and your vehicle towed. If it's a walk up ATM, you could be arrested for loitering or thrown off bank property by private security. Resist enough to escalate things and it could easily turn into a case of suicide by cop.
I had no intention of returning to this thread, but you've made a good point. They can indeed be punished, but it is unlikely they will (they won't around here). I've edited my post accordingly, but the point behind it still stands.
 
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